Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 65

Originally Posted by bharath23

I contacted Oppo regarding the playback for backed up Blu-ray. They officially dont support the playback of the backups. But since they support AVCHD which requires the BDMV directory be nested inside "AVCHD" directory. I will not complain about usability now. Luckily in this world there exists symlinks. I guess I will just use symlinks to create a directory structure that works with Oppo and other players.

Originally Posted by chiptouz


I bought an extended warranty. I havent heard of others doing the same.

Originally Posted by ThePrisoner

I was wondering this too. I just sent an email to Oppo regarding the extended warranty.

Originally Posted by winkyyee

Comment to Oppo: One suggestion for a USB attached devices. I noticed for my movies on my USB external hard drive, the actual listing shown is not in alphabetical order. I assume this maybe the same with Photos and Music. Can you address this with the next firmware release.

Oppo's response: In our testing Microsoft OS drives are showing alphabetical and numerical notation, while Unix/Linux may put the contents on the drive out of order. We are still trying to diagnose why there is a different in performance with the different operating systems.

Originally Posted by BobearQSI

I did a very controlled test tonight, using the sharpness pattern on the Spears and Munsil disk. I used a high resolution DSLR camera on a tripod to take close up pictures a couple feet away from my 121 inch screen with everything manual so the exposure, focus, etc. were the same from shot to shot.

I took 4 photos:
1080p YCbCr 4:4:4
Source Direct
1080p YCbCr 4:2:2
1080p RGB Video Level

Each RAW picture I opened in Photoshop and disabled any sharpness processing. Every single picture looked absolutely identical.

The conclusion this leads to is that possibly on your display the handshaking is choosing a less than ideal format. Can you confirm when you're set to 1080p the resolution and color space that is being sent to your display? Also, you might try manually switching between the different color spaces on the Oppo when on 1080p to see if you can narrow the problem down to a particular color space. Maybe somehow your 1080p is getting RGB PC Level which would make the colors look muted.

Originally Posted by Redbeemer

Bill: That is the way the media player came "out of the box'. I did not set it up to transcode the WMA's to Mp3, it just did that. However, as you may recall, apparently there is an issue with the Oppo not being able to play WMA's (confirmed by Oppo to me) at the moment, so I guess it would have to transcode these files to something the 93 can currently play. Hopefully, this issue will be shortly rectified and we can play 'em the way they come off the HD.

Originally Posted by NewPannyGuy

So did you copy the files to your usb drive from a windows machine or linux machine? If it's the former then you should report it back to Oppo.

Files on my USB drive (copied from a windows machine) show up in correct alphanumeric order, though I have only about 10-15 files on it currently.

Originally Posted by NewPannyGuy

So did you copy the files to your usb drive from a windows machine or linux machine? If it's the former then you should report it back to Oppo.

Files on my USB drive (copied from a windows machine) show up in correct alphanumeric order, though I have only about 10-15 files on it currently.

Originally Posted by bharath23

It shouldnt matter. Because files are not stored in their alphabetic order. It is left to the application to sort the file list or not.

If you are on *nix machine and if you type "ls -f" then you will see you listing which is unsorted and not the sorted list that "ls" produces normally. The "ls" command retrieves the directory listing from the inode table and sorts it and then displays it to you. I have feeling that Oppo's implementation is not sorting it before they display it. If they expect the filesystem to give them the sorted order that is incorrect.

Originally Posted by NewPannyGuy

You are absolutely right about the application having to sort it (and in fact it should provide different ways to sort which has been suggested before in this thread). However we don't know what the bug is in Oppo's implementation. May be they are trying to sort but it doesn't work correctly with some drives. So we can't pass judgement yet that they absolutely messed up this part of their fw .

Originally Posted by NewPannyGuy

Just because the the server is in its "out of the box" config, it doesn't mean it is doing the right thing. Most DLNA/UPNP servers have the default config of "auto" for transcoding, which means they try to identify the client device and use a "well-known" capability file for that client to decide what to transcode and what to not. Most likely your server will not recognize the 93 and fallback to some default capability. It would be best to explicitly turn off transcoding and then try your wma files. In all likelihood they should work unless they are wma lossless files (based on the reports in this thread).

Originally Posted by Grampa

I just logged into the WD drive, and it is a Twonky server. First time I fired up the Oppo, it found the server and the music and movies on it -- I didn't even know it had a server (I had loaded a few media files into the /music and /video folders, but never played with it. So at this point, it seems to work fine. And yes, my computers do go into suspend mode (saves a little energy). So maybe I'll just try loading a few more files on and see how it goes. The music is filtered by artist, album, track, etc., so it looks pretty usable to me.

Originally Posted by Redbeemer

Lossy WMA files are supposed to be a supported file format, but for me (and Grampa), they are not currently working on the 93.

Originally Posted by Makaveli Tha Don

I actually got it to work this afternoon on mine as well! It'd be somewhat nice to not have the media server on a pc, but the thing that makes it somewhat of a deal breaker to me is that if you use the twonky server on the WD drive, it's a public share, there is no way to restrict IP addresses. I like the way I can set it up on my wild media server, I have it so that literally only ONE IP address can even see wild media server, and that's the IP address of my oppo. No other IP address is even able to see my media server, let alone access and stream my content.

Originally Posted by Redbeemer

I was wondering if the fact that the Oppo won't play the WMA files directly was causing them to be transcoded to MP3 over the network since they do work that way. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Originally Posted by NewPannyGuy

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware that your files won't play over the USB either. In any case, there is no dynamic way for the media server to know whether the client (i.e. 93) can play the file or not. It just goes by static profiles and surely there is no profile available for 93 yet. So if you do plan to use your dlna server with the 93, I would suggest making explicit settings for transcoding, else you may end up getting subpar quality for lot of your media (even if the 93 natively supports it). You'll probably have to do a bit more research for this particular server on the appropriate settings.

Originally Posted by Makaveli Tha Don

I actually got it to work this afternoon on mine as well! It'd be somewhat nice to not have the media server on a pc, but the thing that makes it somewhat of a deal breaker to me is that if you use the twonky server on the WD drive, it's a public share, there is no way to restrict IP addresses. I like the way I can set it up on my wild media server, I have it so that literally only ONE IP address can even see wild media server, and that's the IP address of my oppo. No other IP address is even able to see my media server, let alone access and stream my content.

Originally Posted by Redbeemer

Since Grampa just informed me that his WMA files are lossless, I haven't found anyone who has tried to play lossy (but high bit rate) WMA files on the 93 directly to see if they also are unable to get them to work or if it is something specific to my WMA files that is preventing them from working. Oppo did confirm that they too were unable to play MY WMA files, but have not commented on whether the problem is with the 93 or my files.

Originally Posted by Grampa

If you open "WD Discovery," click "Configure," click "Advanced Mode," click the Media tab, click "Media Server" button, click "Twonky Media Settings," then click "Media Receivers" under "Advanced Setup," it looks like you can specify the media receivers by MAC address. Confirm that the Oppo's MAC address is listed, and be sure to uncheck "Enable sharing for new media receivers automatically." That should keep any other device from playing the media on the server.

To limit who can see the drive and its contents, go to Configure/Advanced Mode/Users tab, and click on the Folder Share Permissions. You will see the standard Windows share dialog.

I believe that this server is pretty flexible. For example, I saw that it supports dvr-ms, which is the format/container used for Windows MCE recordings. I know this came up before in the thread, and I don't know whether the 93 supports this format, but I will request that if they don't because I often record TV using that format.

Originally Posted by NewPannyGuy

Make sure that on your phone under Settings->Applications->Development USB debugging is turned off (probably good to have all options under it turned off).

Originally Posted by Makaveli Tha Don

Thanks Grampa. That seems to work. Now I'm a bit nervous about using WD's folder move program to move all 1.3 TB of my movies over from my regular folder to the "video shares" folder, lol

Originally Posted by DouglasCleary

I tried that. My phone has rebooted twice. I am going to try it with the 360 and maybe reconnect the PS3 after that.

Originally Posted by Redbeemer

Thanks for your input; however, I think we are getting two things confused. I was asking about the transcoding of WMA files to MP3 over a media server as I am a noobie when it comes to DLNA servers. In a separate issue, I have reported to Oppo that my lossy WMA files will not play (at all) from a USB thumb drive. I have sent a sample file to Oppo and they have confirmed that it will not play and they did not know why and sent it on to their engineers for further study. Lossy WMA files are supposed to be a supported file format, but for me (and Grampa), they are not currently working on the 93. I was wondering if the fact that the Oppo won't play the WMA files directly was causing them to be transcoded to MP3 over the network since they do work that way. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Originally Posted by Grampa

For example, I saw that it supports dvr-ms, which is the format/container used for Windows MCE recordings. I know this came up before in the thread, and I don't know whether the 93 supports this format, but I will request that if they don't because I often record TV using that format.

Originally Posted by vp4lifehva

The BDP-83 does not support it, will the 93 support it?