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post #20041 of 25187
4/3/12 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

@Bill: just did some testing. Unfortunately the Oppo does not support .m2ts+.srt. (Oppo, if you read this fix this in a future release ). Of course I tried it with the file names EXACTLY the same. I remuxed and added the subtitles so that s the workaround for now.

IIRC, the standard for Bluray subtitles within an M2TS is PGS.

There is a utility called "GoSub" that can convert srt subtitles to PGS.

It's good to know that srt subtitles muxed into an M2TS also work with the Oppo.

The studios can use some weird and wonderful methods of storing subtitles: in other M2TS than the main feature; in Java files and other obscure places.
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post #20042 of 25187
4/3/12 at 8:15am
Anyone know when a new Oppo model is due?
About to pull the trigger on a 95...
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post #20043 of 25187
4/3/12 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Anyone know when a new Oppo model is due?
About to pull the trigger on a 95...

No news or rumors. Certainly nothing in the next few months.

-Bill
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post #20044 of 25187
4/3/12 at 8:52am
^ Not quite true. In another thread here there is a completely unconfirmed rumor from a poster who claims a new Oppo player will ship Q3 this year. He claims he heard this from Oppo support. That could literally mean July 1, but as Bill says that seems HIGHLY unlikely.

For something to happen that soon I would think we would have had some sort of confirmation from the trade shows already, and that has NOT happened, so I really do mean that post stands alone and unconfirmed.

Personally, I would not hold off getting a 93 or 95 *ANYWAY* in that the re-sale value of the OPPO players is generally quite good even if you do find another player comes along later that tempts you.
--Bob
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post #20045 of 25187
4/3/12 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

No news or rumors. Certainly nothing in the next few months.

-Bill

I have a feeling I know the answer to this question, but will give it a go anyway. No need for specifics, I just want to know if Oppo is looking to add more streaming options in the future. Blockbuster is gone, so I just wanted to know if they are looking at other options? Again, no specifics as I know that is a no-no.
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post #20046 of 25187
4/3/12 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Anyone know when a new Oppo model is due?
About to pull the trigger on a 95...

With the new BD players selling at 120 bucks and streaming almost the same file formats, I'm not sure if there will be room for a new $600.00 player. Oppo will need to offer something "extra" , as they did when launched the 93.
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post #20047 of 25187
4/3/12 at 8:59am
^ There's another thread here for discussing suggestions to OPPO as to what to include in any "next player".

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1365649

--Bob
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post #20048 of 25187
4/3/12 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by hawkfan View Post

I have a feeling I know the answer to this question, but will give it a go anyway. No need for specifics, I just want to know if Oppo is looking to add more streaming options in the future. Blockbuster is gone, so I just wanted to know if they are looking at other options? Again, no specifics as I know that is a no-no.

OPPO is looking all the time. The 3rd party service providers have to want to do it too. Blockbuster decided to kick all the manufacturers out and go exclusive with Samsung. My guess is OPPO would have an easier time attracting 3rd parties with a "next player", but we'll see.

A UK magazine, Hi-Fi News, claims in their just issued review of the 95EU (European version) that an iOS and Android control app is coming this summer. That's the only "new feature" rumor that I know of which is floating around right now. Unconfirmed of course.
--Bob
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post #20049 of 25187
4/3/12 at 9:06am
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Originally Posted by hawkfan View Post

I have a feeling I know the answer to this question, but will give it a go anyway. No need for specifics, I just want to know if Oppo is looking to add more streaming options in the future. Blockbuster is gone, so I just wanted to know if they are looking at other options? Again, no specifics as I know that is a no-no.

It's no secret, OPPO has said they are pursuing new services now, even for the current line. We have always presumed the hangup is that big companies allocate their attention to other big companies, the major brands. That's where the eyeballs are.

-Bill
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post #20050 of 25187
4/3/12 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

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one other thing. I have the spider-man 2 blu ray. there is an audio drop out during the beginning the train fight. I was wondering if you could see if you have that problem and maybe talk with oppo about it? I believe its in chapter 42.
thanks again.
Jacob

I don't have that disc so I can't help you. Perhaps someone else can chime in.

The usual cause of a dropout at a repeatable location is a scratch or bit of dirt on the disc, so check that. And if no luck, email Oppo with the disc info and the time code of the drop out and see if they have history on it. Be sure to include the bar code or ISBN number from the packaging (including the small digits at either end) as that will let them confirm which version of the title you are talking about.

You can also try both HDMI LPCM and HDMI Bitstream output and see if it happens both ways.
--Bob
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post #20051 of 25187
4/3/12 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by Edllguy View Post

I just want to ask fellow BDP-93 owners a question about possible lip sync issues with their set up.

Are any of you are using both of the HDMI's on this unit to accomodate a HDMI 1.4a 3DTV while still using an HDMI 1.3a receiver in the chain? If so did you initially get lip sync issues with such a set up and did you use the receiver Auto On/Off audio delay settings to compensate for this type of issue?

I ask because I intend to get a 3DTV in the near future and it will be used with an Elite 94 receiver in the chain with the source being my 93. I just want to be reassured that users/owners of the 93 have had success with taming lip sync with such a type of set up that I have described.

Thanks

I have been a happy Elite vsx 01 owner for 3 years using it as an HDMI switch for DVD-Bluray. Obviously, it will not pass a 3D signal, so I tried going Oppo HDMI 1 direct to TV, and 2 to receiver for sound. That worked for Bluray, but not 3D. (Interestingly, the Bluray pic was brighter when going direct than when going through the rcvr.) When attempting 3D as stated, the picture turned blue. I made two calls each to Oppo and Pioneer with no ideas until the Pioneer guy suggested using digital audio out of the Oppo. It works perfectly, (even with the HDMI 2 cable still in place). The rcvr. still shows it is outputting (or maybe merely inputting) all sorts of audio modes.

Now back to your lip syncing question: I have only watched a few movies, and it has not been obvious.
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post #20052 of 25187
4/3/12 at 12:13pm
Thanx guys for all the info...much appreciated (logging on to the Oppo site...).
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post #20053 of 25187
4/3/12 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Jacob,
Turn off the player and pull the power plug for about 10 seconds, and then power up and check your volumes again. --a useful thing to try whenever the player is acting strangely.

The more elaborate version of this includes a Reset Factory Defaults.
--Bob

I've been having to reset my player a lot more often - not sure if it is the latest firmware that is the issue or my player getting old. It will frequently be stuck on off (light on displaying off) when I go to power it down. It wil more frequently lose connectivity to the network and just sit there showing nothing till I power it off and back on again. It more frequently doesn't seem to know what folder it was last in when I power it up.

Is anyone else having more issues with the last firmware or is my oppo dying?
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post #20054 of 25187
4/3/12 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

I've been having to reset my player a lot more often - not sure if it is the latest firmware that is the issue or my player getting old. It will frequently be stuck on off (light on displaying off) when I go to power it down. It wil more frequently lose connectivity to the network and just sit there showing nothing till I power it off and back on again. It more frequently doesn't seem to know what folder it was last in when I power it up.

Is anyone else having more issues with the last firmware or is my oppo dying?

I had to send my player to get fixed once. its been working like a charm ever since. I had some minor issues. you should talk with oppo. they can probably help you.

Jacob
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post #20055 of 25187
4/4/12 at 12:48am
I m going to give my 2TB 5400RPM HDD a format, what is the recommended allocation size to choose?
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post #20056 of 25187
4/4/12 at 2:46am
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

I've been having to reset my player a lot more often - not sure if it is the latest firmware that is the issue or my player getting old. It will frequently be stuck on off (light on displaying off) when I go to power it down.

My BDP93 sometimes takes a little while to turn off, maybe a few seconds. Trick can be, especially if you're using an all in one remote, to keep the remote pointed at the equipment until everything has turned off.

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Originally Posted by boe View Post

It wil more frequently lose connectivity to the network and just sit there showing nothing till I power it off and back on again.

I haven't had this issue in a long while, not since I upgraded my router to a FritzBox Are you connected by ethernet or wireless? If wireless try ethernet. Some tricks I've tried that sometimes work, reboot the Oppo, disconnect and reconnect wifi dongle, reboot the router, upgrade FW on router and I'm sure there's plenty of others too.

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Originally Posted by boe View Post

It more frequently doesn't seem to know what folder it was last in when I power it up.
Is anyone else having more issues with the last firmware or is my oppo dying?

As a rule I always stop what's playing over the network or from attached storage and navigate back to the home page using the back button. I know, you probably should n't have to do that but it works.

blairy
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post #20057 of 25187
4/4/12 at 3:31am
Count me in as another one that's singing the praises of this amazing machine. Mine arrived yesterday (I'll skip the platitudes about the way it's packed), and I popped in some BD's, DVD-A's, and DVD's. I've NEVER heard such audio quality, and the PQ really was an improvement.

Shoot - this is one helluva machine.

Now off to sell my Sony BDP-CX960 carousel player!
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post #20058 of 25187
4/4/12 at 6:07am
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

I m going to give my 2TB 5400RPM HDD a format, what is the recommended allocation size to choose?

I got two disks like you (2 x WD Caviar Green 2TB WD20EARX in Thermaltake BlacX Duet docking station) and I decided to go with NTFS with 64 kB cluster size to minimize fragmentation over time since I use them exclusively for storage of large files like DVD or Blu-ray ISOs and FLACs. So far they work great with Oppo.
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post #20059 of 25187
4/4/12 at 7:05am
I just sold my Oppo BD-93 yesterday for about $460

The oppo used to serve me on 3 fronts (atleast thats what I thought)
1. audio/video, feeling of having something of superior quality
2. Online Services (netflix, pandora etc)
On 1 above, I simply could not discern the difference between the Oppo and a $150 Sony BDP-S570. In fact the BDP-S570 was slim and performed as well as the Oppo in all the aspects that I cared about
on 2 above, the BDP-S570 again outperformed the Oppo.. it had far more services and the interface was more refined
I simply could not justify a box twice as big, three times more expensive, clunky interface, as part of my stereo equipment
Yes, you might try hard at convincing me about the superior audio or superior video but what use is it when i cant find the difference? Clearly, the Oppo isnt a fit for me. I sold the Oppo for about the same price I bought (so no regrets) but I think its seriously overrated for what it is used for. For me, its about music or video when I want it, where I want it and quickly.. I dont give a sh*t if the harmonic distortion is 0.001 vs 0.0001 or if the tonal variations are 2 sonars vs 6.6 sonars [sic!] I know, i am making that up but you get what I mean.

The one product I am really enjoying is the Sonos ZP-120 and a Sonos ZP-90.. and a few Sonos S5 speakers around the house.. that with a Roku and an Apple TV and a peachtree nova amp, Iscan Duo for video switching.. this is what I am settling down with after getting rid of all the albatrosses (oppo, denon receiver, etc)

small foot print, quick access to music and video, ability to stream, where I want when I want.. this is what I love and this is what I will pay for.
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post #20060 of 25187
4/4/12 at 7:11am
To each their own. I found the Sony 570 to be a piece of junk. Goes to show the diversity of experience. I may get a Roku for better Netflix but for all things disk I will continue to use the Oppo.
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post #20061 of 25187
4/4/12 at 7:18am
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Originally Posted by rman66 View Post

I just sold my Oppo BD-93 yesterday for about $460

The oppo used to serve me on 3 fronts (atleast thats what I thought)
1. audio/video, feeling of having something of superior quality
2. Online Services (netflix, pandora etc)
On 1 above, I simply could not discern the difference between the Oppo and a $150 Sony BDP-S570. In fact the BDP-S570 was slim and performed as well as the Oppo in all the aspects that I cared about
on 2 above, the BDP-S570 again outperformed the Oppo.. it had far more services and the interface was more refined
I simply could not justify a box twice as big, three times more expensive, clunky interface, as part of my stereo equipment
Yes, you might try hard at convincing me about the superior audio or superior video but what use is it when i cant find the difference? Clearly, the Oppo isnt a fit for me. I sold the Oppo for about the same price I bought (so no regrets) but I think its seriously overrated for what it is used for. For me, its about music or video when I want it, where I want it and quickly.. I dont give a sh*t if the harmonic distortion is 0.001 vs 0.0001 or if the tonal variations are 2 sonars vs 6.6 sonars [sic!] I know, i am making that up but you get what I mean.

The one product I am really enjoying is the Sonos ZP-120 and a Sonos ZP-90.. and a few Sonos S5 speakers around the house.. that with a Roku and an Apple TV and a peachtree nova amp, Iscan Duo for video switching.. this is what I am settling down with after getting rid of all the albatrosses (oppo, denon receiver, etc)

small foot print, quick access to music and video, ability to stream, where I want when I want.. this is what I love and this is what I will pay for.

Good choice, if what you want is a good BluRay player and streamer, the Oppo is definitely overkill.

If you are not using the scaling (like for SD sources), the DVD-A and SACD support, don't need dual outputs to handle legacy AVRs that don't do 3D, don't need RS232 support, don't need bit-direct output for multiple source types and resolutions, and don't need quality analog output, the Oppo is definitely not worth it, imo.

OTOH, if you need one or (especially) more of those features, the price bump is small for what you get.
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post #20062 of 25187
4/4/12 at 7:19am
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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

To each their own. I found the Sony 570 to be a piece of junk. Goes to show the diversity of experience. I may get a Roku for better Netflix but for all things disk I will continue to use the Oppo.

I also agree with you about the sony products. I recently had the panasonic 210 model from last year. it has the better netflix, however I ended up using the oppo netflix. I do have the original roku. it was okay. I prefer it on the blu ray.

that is just me. specially after oppo fixed the 720P bug. it seems to work much better on the oppo.
Jacob
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post #20063 of 25187
4/4/12 at 7:20am
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Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post

Good choice, if what you want is a good BluRay player and streamer, the Oppo is definitely overkill.

If you are not using the scaling (like for SD sources), the DVD-A and SACD support, don't need dual outputs to handle legacy AVRs that don't do 3D, don't need RS232 support, don't need bit-direct output for multiple source types and resolutions, and don't need quality analog output, the Oppo is definitely not worth it, imo.

OTOH, if you need one or (especially) more of those features, the price bump is small for what you get.

however you are missing the most important thing that the oppo offers over anything else.. excellent customer service. try that with another brand. good luck.

Jacob
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post #20064 of 25187
4/4/12 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by rman66 View Post

I just sold my Oppo BD-93 yesterday for about $460

The oppo used to serve me on 3 fronts (atleast thats what I thought)
1. audio/video, feeling of having something of superior quality
2. Online Services (netflix, pandora etc)
On 1 above, I simply could not discern the difference between the Oppo and a $150 Sony BDP-S570. In fact the BDP-S570 was slim and performed as well as the Oppo in all the aspects that I cared about
on 2 above, the BDP-S570 again outperformed the Oppo.. it had far more services and the interface was more refined
I simply could not justify a box twice as big, three times more expensive, clunky interface, as part of my stereo equipment
Yes, you might try hard at convincing me about the superior audio or superior video but what use is it when i cant find the difference? Clearly, the Oppo isnt a fit for me. I sold the Oppo for about the same price I bought (so no regrets) but I think its seriously overrated for what it is used for. For me, its about music or video when I want it, where I want it and quickly.. I dont give a sh*t if the harmonic distortion is 0.001 vs 0.0001 or if the tonal variations are 2 sonars vs 6.6 sonars [sic!] I know, i am making that up but you get what I mean.

The one product I am really enjoying is the Sonos ZP-120 and a Sonos ZP-90.. and a few Sonos S5 speakers around the house.. that with a Roku and an Apple TV and a peachtree nova amp, Iscan Duo for video switching.. this is what I am settling down with after getting rid of all the albatrosses (oppo, denon receiver, etc)

small foot print, quick access to music and video, ability to stream, where I want when I want.. this is what I love and this is what I will pay for.

That was a good move on your part. The Oppo is WAY overkill for people in your situation. If all you use it for is to play BD and nothing else then you will be better served buying a cheap ~$100 BD player from any other manufacturer. I have always stated this when people post whether the Oppo is for them or not.

Now if you step it up and need any of the other features that the Oppo offers like true universal disc compatibility (minus HD-DVD) and very good analog outputs, then Oppo is king at this price range. As for audio/video quality there are diminishing returns on investment as the prices go up. Even then, only people who have considerable investments will realize all or some of the benefits. Those are the people with bigger screens and good quality speakers and that have all been properly calibrated. These are the people that the Oppo is targeted for.

There are many other benefits of the Oppo, but for the majority of users it's just plain overkill. The majority of the population will be better served (in terms of not spending more than they need to by going with considerably less expensive alternatives. Just keep in mind the Oppo is advertised as a universal player, not just a BD player.
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post #20065 of 25187
4/4/12 at 8:53am
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Originally Posted by rman66 View Post

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The oppo used to serve me on 3 fronts (atleast thats what I thought)
1. audio/video, feeling of having something of superior quality
2. Online Services (netflix, pandora etc)

What's #3?
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post #20066 of 25187
4/4/12 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by duc135 View Post

That was a good move on your part. The Oppo is WAY overkill for people in your situation. If all you use it for is to play BD and nothing else then you will be better served buying a cheap ~$100 BD player from any other manufacturer. I have always stated this when people post whether the Oppo is for them or not.

Now if you step it up and need any of the other features that the Oppo offers like true universal disc compatibility (minus HD-DVD) and very good analog outputs, then Oppo is king at this price range. As for audio/video quality there are diminishing returns on investment as the prices go up. Even then, only people who have considerable investments will realize all or some of the benefits. Those are the people with bigger screens and good quality speakers and that have all been properly calibrated. These are the people that the Oppo is targeted for.

There are many other benefits of the Oppo, but for the majority of users it's just plain overkill. The majority of the population will be better served (in terms of not spending more than they need to by going with considerably less expensive alternatives. Just keep in mind the Oppo is advertised as a universal player, not just a BD player.

I have gone through:

1: Playstation 3 (fat) - (drive died in 4 months - repaired by Sony, sold to friend, drive died again, out of warranty)
2: Samsung BD-UP5000 (won't play Blu-rays - died in 8 months)
3: Sony S550 (drive died after 6 months)
4: LG 550 (problems with several Blu-ray discs - firmware is spotty and often creates more problems than it fixes)
5: Samsung BD-C6900 (problems with playback on numerous discs)

That works out to be around $1600 that I threw down the drain.

On the other hand, the Oppo 93 I purchased has played every single disc I have put into it. They are built like tanks. The player's Source Direct setting is worth the price of admission. Their firmware and customer support is exemplary. The quality of this device is blatantly obvious from the moment you first open the box.

Best $499 I have ever spent on a disc-based player, bar none. You can complain about the dropping of ISO support (not really their fault), and other niggly bits, but as a Blu-ray/DVD/AVI(and ETC) player, as far as I'm concerned, it's worth every single penny.
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post #20067 of 25187
4/4/12 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by Kilgore View Post

I have gone through:

1: Playstation 3 (fat) - (drive died in 4 months - repaired by Sony, sold to friend, drive died again, out of warranty)
2: Samsung BD-UP5000 (won't play Blu-rays - died in 8 months)
3: Sony S550 (drive died after 6 months)
4: LG 550 (problems with several Blu-ray discs - firmware is spotty and often creates more problems than it fixes)
5: Samsung BD-C6900 (problems with playback on numerous discs)

That works out to be around $1600 that I threw down the drain.

On the other hand, the Oppo 93 I purchased has played every single disc I have put into it. They are built like tanks. The player's Source Direct setting is worth the price of admission. Their firmware and customer support is exemplary. The quality of this device is blatantly obvious from the moment you first open the box.

Best $499 I have ever spent on a disc-based player, bar none. You can complain about the dropping of ISO support (not really their fault), and other niggly bits, but as a Blu-ray/DVD/AVI(and ETC) player, as far as I'm concerned, it's worth every single penny.

You, my friend, are one unlikely person when it comes to electronics. I have had many BD/DVD players and only my Samsung had an issue. I've just given them away to family members who still use them. I can't agree with you more that the Oppo is worth every penny even though I've already had to send mine back for an failed HDMI board just a couple months after purchasing it.
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post #20068 of 25187
4/4/12 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by rman66 View Post

small foot print, quick access to music and video, ability to stream, where I want when I want.. this is what I love and this is what I will pay for.

That all sounds perfect -- for you. Enjoy.

The resale value of the OPPO wasn't bad either.
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post #20069 of 25187
4/4/12 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by Kilgore View Post

I have gone through:

1: Playstation 3 (fat) - (drive died in 4 months - repaired by Sony, sold to friend, drive died again, out of warranty)
2: Samsung BD-UP5000 (won't play Blu-rays - died in 8 months)
3: Sony S550 (drive died after 6 months)
4: LG 550 (problems with several Blu-ray discs - firmware is spotty and often creates more problems than it fixes)
5: Samsung BD-C6900 (problems with playback on numerous discs)

I'm just curious, what kind of ventilation do your components have? Is there any power protection?

I love my Oppo and agree they are well built but I still have my launch day PlayStation 3 60GB and it's still working fine (knock wood). It's in an open stand and power protected.
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post #20070 of 25187
4/4/12 at 2:30pm
My Sony bd paler died within year other than that no problems with bd or DVD player, it is important to have good ventilation in cabinet, most electronics fails because of heat. Oppo is well built player but it is electronics also.
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