Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 706

any chance of a new firmware update in june?

Why? Do you need one?

Does that mean this model is close to its end of the lifecycle and a new Oppo player is around the corner soon?

my player is doing fine. the last few firmwares updates have been great.

Jacob

I am continually impressed by the patience shown by the top experts in this thread responding to the same unanswerable questions over and over and over... Although maybe the thread would have fewer posts if the repeats went unanswered and maybe that would be a good thing.

what netflix issues? I thought they fixed the 720p thing. something else?

Jacob

Uh oh. They're gonna start crawling back out from under the bridge now!

Yes. The current firmware has a bug which produces random, but fortunately very infrequent freezing/crash behavior during Netflix playback requiring a power cycle.
--Bob

hmm.

I see. hopefully they can fix it.

Jacob

Nothing's ever simple when Netfilix is involved, but OPPO are on it.
--Bob

I'm proud to let you guys know since 3 days i'm part of the oppo bdp-93(EU) owners club. And there are not many Oppo bdp-93EU owners i'know or have heard of in the Netherlands !

So far i'm over the moon with the Oppo, its a huge step up from my panasonic DMP-BD30

It is an older drive, USB 2.0. I usually get it to eventually work. It still states that the drive is not supported, but lets me access the files on it.

Proud new owner of a Oppo BDP93. Pulled out my Panasonic 210 and slid the Oppo in. Hooked it up to my AVM 50v and...had to change an HDMi cable. This is one sweet player. With the panny I always had to bump my volume 2db's to play a Bluray Not Anymore. Definately an upgrade.

PICTURE ADJUSTMENTS on the OPPO...

I have an OPPO BD player and LOVE the picture it puts out. I have had my whole set-up professionally calibrated and for the most part am very happy.

However... I notice sometimes that flesh tones can be a little on the "yellow/golden/orange" side and I also notice that when I am looking through the BLUE Filter (enclosed with the Spears and Munsil Set-up disc and BD Video Essentials etc etc) that the color bars are not quite as they should be (i.e. all the same).

Now... is this correct or can I move the Oppo HUE setting one click to the right (+1) to seemingly make the picture more 'red' and more accurate for the BLUE filter color bar pattern, or would I be messing-up all the good work that the calibrator has done?

p.s. I was also thinking of maybe increasing the SATURATION setting by +1 click as well. Is this not recommended?

Please advise.

Thank you for your time. Kind regards, M.J.

I was wondering why Netflix had so many glitches recently. I thought my powerline ethernet devices were crapping out on me.

The default (0 value) Picture Adjustment settings in the OPPO put out "reference" image values on the HDMI cable. If you are finding them at odds with your display calibration, there are several possible explanations:

1) Your calibrator made a mistake. Let's discount this one, at least for now.

2) You are not actually using the calibrated settings. Displays these days typically remember settings separately for each input. If the calibrator set up input A, but you are actually using input B, then you may not have the calibrated settings in effect. If you copied over settings yourself, double check what you've done. If your calibrator made any service menu level adjustments, it may be he didn't do that for every input in your display. In addition, you need to be aware that various convenience or enhancement settings in the display might mean you are no longer using the calibrated settings. For example, you can't just change "Picture Modes" willy-nilly. And if there are "enhancement" settings like "flesh tone enhancement", you can't set those differently from what the calibrator used.

3) Your calibrator deliberately adjusted things "slightly off". Sometimes displays have problems that can't be fully corrected. In which case calibrators need to pick compromise settings that come as close as possible without being "too wrong" in any respect.

4) You are using a different video data format from the OPPO than what you calibrator expected you would use. The data format is the combination of the HDMI Color Space and Deep Color settings. Now, it *SHOULDN'T* make a difference which data format combo you pick as far as whether the basic, color Saturation and Hue levels are correct. But some displays have quirks (a polite name for bugs) which make them work better with one video input format than another. Your calibrator may have checked things, for example, assuming you would use RGB Video Level instead of YCbCr 4:4:4 or the other way around. And if you are using the other, AND your display has an issue like this, then it might show as a slightly off set of color settings.

Think about what the calibrator set up for you, and what you might have done setting things to your liking after he finished. That may lead you in the right direction. Item (2) above is the most likely cause, so think about those possibilities first.

And if none of that gives you an answer, think about talking to your calibrator and see if he comes up with an answer.

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NOTE: The Blue gel filter that comes with Spears & Munsil comes in two densities in a single cardboard strip. A third, even deeper density can be achieved by folding the filter in half so that you are looking through both at the same time. The reason is that the filter can potentially let through some Red and some Green and thus confuse what you see. This will be more likely if you have a very bright display like an LED display set for use in a non-darkened room. The thing to do is to bring up the Color Bars chart on Spears & Munsil and then look at it through the lighter density Blue filter. What you want to see is if the Red and Green bars in the chart are *COMPLETELY* black. If not, then switch to the darker density Blue filter. IF they are STILL not completely black, then fold the filter in half and look through both filters together.

Once you have figured out which density of Blue filter works for your display, THEN you can check whether color Saturation and Hue settings are correct. If you use too light density a Blue filter, then the Red and Green that sneak past the filter for the non-Blue portions of the chart will confuse your result.

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If on rechecking Spears & Munsil this way you discover the calibrated TV settings along with the default (0) Picture Adjustment settings in the OPPO really ARE correct, but you are still having problems with certain movies, then the odds are you are just seeing an authoring difference in those movies. The color may be a bit "off" for artistic intent, or it may just be an issue in the transfer to disc.

In such case, SURE! If you feel like adjusting the Picture Adjustment settings for personal taste, then go for it! Just be sure to return them back to the default (0) values before you view anything new, as it likely won't have the same issues. The Mode settings in Picture Adjustment let you preset 3 sets of Picture Adjustment settings that you can move between at will.
--Bob

3x in one movie isn't what I would call "very infrequent".

Why the candy coating? Just say it straight, Netflix is screwed up. Because it is on the 93. And life's too short. And don't forget the Youtube debacle occuring also.

Hello everyone, I've just received my new player today and I'm not sure if I should return it for being defective. I'm using a wireless connection but I'm unable to connect to youtube At all. Whenever I select the designated youtube icon, it freezes the player. I constantly have to turn it off to exit the screen. I've connected normally to my network but yet, I can't seem to use youtube. Or Netflix successfully. Watching blurays movies seems to work fine, but youtube is beginning to be a real nuisance by constantly freezing up on me. Netflix is no better. It occasionally connects to my network and is quite slow when it does. I'm not sure if its the router or the player itself but I'm so disappointed on how this is turning out.I would greatly appreciate anyone's feedback on this issue.I'm new in the BD player world and I'm just trying to get the most out of this very expensive device. Should I return it or is there something I'm doing wrong.Please. Help . I would certainly would like to have your advice Thank you for reading my post. Hoping to hear from the experts on this forum.

I can't tell if you're doing something wrong because in your panic you aren't providing clear and organized information.

I think that you'll get help here in this thread and everything should be fine. Internet connections have so many ways to go wrong you need to relax and follow the advice that will probably be coming tomorrow.

OPPO is a very reliable company and there is no chance that you'll be stuck with a defective player. As you know, you can return it for any reason during the first thirty days, and if it needs repair, they will do it fast and without fuss.

Was connecting to the Internet for streaming, and playing Blu-ray disks your main reason for buying the OPPO? One of my main reasons was the outstanding job the OPPO does converting DVD material to 1080p.

If you haven't already, install the latest firmware. It has a Youtube fix.

Then, what you could try is connect the player with a LAN cable to your router, to isolate the problem. If that works fine, the problem is with the wireless connection, if it doesn't change anything, it's somewhere else.

Folks, I'm trying to play "The Flowers Of The War" via USB on my Oppo but I have no sound. Anybody here had the same problem? The mediainfo says:

General
Unique ID : 168348648403719580577546155723716462494 (0x7EA6C532C2870C1E037BA147C20E879E)
Complete name : C:\\Users\\MARCOS\\Downloads\\THE FLOWERS OF WAR.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 8.82 GiB
Duration : 2h 25mn
Overall bit rate : 8 651 Kbps
Writing application : Lavf51.12.1
Writing library : Lavf51.12.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L5.0
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 25mn
Bit rate : 7 068 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 24.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.142
Stream size : 7.21 GiB (82%)
Language : English / English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 25mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.44 GiB (16%)
Language : English

I picked the Oppo 93 mainly for the picture quality and the reliability of the device. And I must admit that I've allowed panic and deception to take over. I guess I was expecting for this expensive device to work flawlessly right out of the box.Nonetheless, I'm using the Dlink Dir 655 for my home network. The connectivity on my computer and my ps3 works perfectly. Accessing Netflix on my game console works real well,but for some reason, the oppo fails to do the same.When or if it connects ,it takes forever for the site to populate . The Movie posters are slowly popping up one by one, but most won't even appear, leaving a blank grey rectangle instead.. It's almost as if something is blocking the information from going through or considerably slowing down the Internet signal from passing through.Thats my netflix problem...YouTube is a different set of issues, it won't open at all. When selected, only the youtube logo appears and won't do anything else, I often have to turn off the player to get out of it.It just won't connect. I'm not sure whether it's the player or my router that's not working properly. That's the best way I can describe the situation. I really don't want to go through the hassle of returning this device. I would certainly appreciate your help on how to fix this problem. I had to save up for 3 months to get this machine.I'm a student and the oppo is one of my few distractions. I really want this to work, I'm still under my 15 day warrantee. Thank you all.

Yes Ornette, I've upgraded the firmware to the latest version (BDP9x-66-0413) and even with a wired connection, I still have the same results. However, if I bypass the router and connect the cable directly to the player,Netflix seems to work well.Unfortunatly when it comes to youtube, I'm still left with a static image of their logo. It won't connect at all. My router seems to connect to all my other devices flawlessly, why can't the 500$ oppo dprespond the same way?.I want it to work wirelessly like the other components in my room, I'm not sure why the oppo won't respond as it should. Should I return it or perhaps change the router? I'm so confused, I just want this to work as it should.Thank you for helping.

I would contact oppo for some help. they have been known to respond over the weekend as well.

Jacob

The oppo has a bad network design - I've mentioned that in another thread. It takes a long time to start the network service and the wireless unit isn't exactly fast. I've replaced the included wireless with a wireless repeater (which is still wireless back to my main wireless router) and found it works much better. I do a lot of streaming of HD content and it allows me to fast forward and rewind at higher speeds than the included wireless.

I'd suggest you try running a network cable from your router to oppo and see how it performs. To tell you the truth the dlinks are pretty bad routers - they have problems with large amounts of data. You might also try removing your dlink from the equation and reset your modem with the network cable running directly to the oppo from the modem (no dlink). If you have any friends with an airport extreme ask if you can borrow it (I'm not some apple fanboy I run Windows 98% of the time).

If you've done all that and have the current firmware downloaded and updated on your BR player than yes, it may be a defective unit. You also might go to broadbandreports.com - tools - speedtest and verify you are on a really slow connection - e.g. 1.5mbit down is slow.

Your problem(s) are FW related. Oppo is aware and is "working on it". I'm surprised no one here has told you to go buy a roku or something else just as silly, if you want streaming to work well as had been told to me when I raised the same issues about my experience.

Personally, I found that my LG BD570 (that the Oppo replaced initially) is a better performer minus no SACD or DVD-A support from the LG. Oppo IS indeed "working on it" and they have been able to recreate certain issues like Netflix being slow and freezing and of course, the YouTube debacle that is a seriously failed experiment with the new 'kick back' (or whatever it is called) platform that when it did work, really sucked. Super slow response.

No, for shiney discs, the Oppo is fabulous. For streaming content? Not so much. We decided life was too short to be so aggrevated by such a 'superior' machine that I just boxed the player back up and it is now on the way to its new owner. So your call. If streaming is important to you as it is with us (why else buy a player that streams?) and you don't mind waiting (been over a month like this with no 'fix' or time when a 'fix' will happen) for however long it will take, then keep the Oppo. Otherwise return it, get a working mass produced machine that has more features for less $$$ (however the SQ from the Oppo is first rate and no, my LG is not as good (but still no slouch) in that department).

Hi Boe, can you suggest a more compatible router? I've tried the wired connection as you've suggested, but I got the same results.I still have a Static image of the youtube logo, and Netflix works occasionally, and when it does, the site won't populate as fast as my ps3 would

Rondon, have you run the speed test for you data speed?

If you are still having issues with the wired direct to your modem, the dlink isn't the source of the problem.

If you were to buy a new router, I would wait another month to see if Apple is going to release the 802.11ac router. THe standard isn't ratified but there were a ton of n routers before that was ratified. I support clients with dlink, cisco/linksys, netgear, belkin and buffalo routers. The buffalos are cheap but work well with the latest non supported firmware however they are cheaply made and die within about a year on average. The others tend to require resets or freeze with large file transfers. The Apples are simple but reliable. They almost never require a reset unless your modem gets an update from the carrier. Not having to ever reset their wireless modem is a huge deal with my clients as most don't ever want to go into their server rooms.

I'm hoping Apple releases a new model within the next month or so. While the included wireless in the oppo won't support 802.11AC, you can use an airport express as a repeater and plug your oppo directly into it with a network cable.

Again though, if you have the problems without the dlink in the equation, that isn't the source of your issue. I would call Oppo as they are usually quick to assist and certainly know their product better than I.