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post #21241 of 25169
6/3/12 at 7:45pm
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AUTO PLAY only affects CD-AUDIO and SACD. All other media sources are started automatically. There is no way to set other disc types to not playback automatically.
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post #21242 of 25169
6/3/12 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by rich3fan View Post

The first quote was from yesterday (post #21176). I won't say another word.

Thats my mistake...Ive had this machine for 5 days, but installed it yesterday...My mistake. I'm not sure what youre insinuating by that, but its true i did say that.My goal here is not to create tension , i'm just frustrated with this 500$ player. Thanks anyways, i'll refer to oppodigital.I appreciate the help. I dont want to get flamed for my silly mistake.
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post #21243 of 25169
6/4/12 at 5:05am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Nope, should be automatic. I presume you mean the on-screen Info, while playing the disc, says you are playing the 2.0 layer when you expect to see the 5.1 layer.

If you press the Audio button, does it switch to the 5.1 layer on screen? The track currently playing should start over.

Get in touch with OPPO on specific titles in case they have some history on them.

I suppose it is possible you have a hardware fault in the loader (not seeing the 5.1 layer). Or a fault in your Settings memory (not using your default 5.1 choice).

As always when you see odd behavior, it is worth it to try a Reset followed by power down and pull the power plug for about 10 seconds.
--Bob

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Physically, the stereo and Mch tracks are on the same "layer" of the disc, so a loader issue is unlikely.

I'd suggest not only a reset to defaults, but unplugging the player also.

Thanks for the responses Bob and rdgrimes.

In setup I have autoplay ON and SACD set to MCH.

Insert SACD and it plays STEREO. Hit the AUDIO button and screen now shows 5.1 but it's only playing and the AVR is only receiving stereo.

STOP disc and EJECT. Hit eject again to put disc in and hey presto MCH sound.

Will try the suggestions above and see how it goes.

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blairy
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post #21244 of 25169
6/4/12 at 5:13am
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Originally Posted by blairy View Post

Thanks for the responses Bob and rdgrimes.

In setup I have autoplay ON and SACD set to MCH.

Insert SACD and it plays STEREO. Hit the AUDIO button and screen now shows 5.1 but it's only playing and the AVR is only receiving stereo.

STOP disc and EJECT. Hit eject again to put disc in and hey presto MCH sound.

Will try the suggestions above and see how it goes.

Thanks

blairy

I remember this happening before, but thought they had fixed it in a FW release. It happened to me as well, but I haven't listened to a SACD in a while.
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post #21245 of 25169
6/4/12 at 5:51am
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Originally Posted by blairy View Post

Thanks for the responses Bob and rdgrimes.

In setup I have autoplay ON and SACD set to MCH.

Insert SACD and it plays STEREO. Hit the AUDIO button and screen now shows 5.1 but it's only playing and the AVR is only receiving stereo.

STOP disc and EJECT. Hit eject again to put disc in and hey presto MCH sound.

Will try the suggestions above and see how it goes.

Thanks

blairy

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Originally Posted by MitchPope View Post

I remember this happening before, but thought they had fixed it in a FW release. It happened to me as well, but I haven't listened to a SACD in a while.

Thanks MitchPope...I'm sure this (or something similar) has been flagged in the past. Anyway...

Reset my Oppo as suggested...turned off...disconnected power for a minute or two. Turned back on and re-entered settings. Turned off for more than 10 seconds and then turned on my Oppo.

Put in an SACD and it displays as playing 5.1 but the AVR is only receiving stereo.

STOP and EJECT disc...put it back in and it plays MCH. Played first disc for a couple of minutes and ejected this and tried a different disc immediately after it and it played in MCH.

Bit weird this but there is obviously a quite simple work around.

Any clues?

blairy
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post #21246 of 25169
6/4/12 at 1:09pm
I fired up my 93 last night and while i was changing discs if asked if I would allow a firmware update. I of course hit ok and it updated. The thing is I dont see any new firmware updates since the last one (April).

I havent checked the version I am on but I am fairly sure I did do the April update in April. Anyone else ever run into anything like this?
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post #21247 of 25169
6/4/12 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by sbr100 View Post

I fired up my 93 last night and while i was changing discs if asked if I would allow a firmware update. I of course hit ok and it updated. The thing is I dont see any new firmware updates since the last one (April).

I havent checked the version I am on but I am fairly sure I did do the April update in April. Anyone else ever run into anything like this?

What part or parts of the firmware did it install? Main, Loader, or MCU?

In the 83, there were rare conditions where the player would have trouble recognizing, say, the Loader firmware version currently installed, and so it would offer to do a re-install of a piece of firmware you already had.

There's no harm in doing such a re-install.

But I don't think we've seen this on the 93.
--Bob
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post #21248 of 25169
6/4/12 at 6:10pm
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Originally Posted by sbr100 View Post

I fired up my 93 last night and while i was changing discs if asked if I would allow a firmware update. I of course hit ok and it updated. The thing is I dont see any new firmware updates since the last one (April).

I havent checked the version I am on but I am fairly sure I did do the April update in April. Anyone else ever run into anything like this?

Dangerous. New firmware updates reduce capability of .ISO playback due to greed in the movie business. Disable the OPPO internet and remove the dongle connection; buy a ROKU box for access to the net.
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post #21249 of 25169
6/4/12 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by Gil Arroyo View Post

Dangerous. New firmware updates reduce capability of .ISO playback due to greed in the movie business. Disable the OPPO internet and remove the dongle connection; buy a ROKU box for access to the net.

Why so alarmist? He said he was on the April firmware already.
--Bob
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post #21250 of 25169
6/4/12 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by blairy View Post

Thanks MitchPope...I'm sure this (or something similar) has been flagged in the past. Anyway...

Reset my Oppo as suggested...turned off...disconnected power for a minute or two. Turned back on and re-entered settings. Turned off for more than 10 seconds and then turned on my Oppo.

Put in an SACD and it displays as playing 5.1 but the AVR is only receiving stereo.

STOP and EJECT disc...put it back in and it plays MCH. Played first disc for a couple of minutes and ejected this and tried a different disc immediately after it and it played in MCH.

Bit weird this but there is obviously a quite simple work around.

Any clues?

blairy

Flagged this to Oppo.

They asked for details of my AVR (Denon AVR 3808) and suggested I try using HDMI 1 direct to AVR. Tried that and the problem persists.

Of course, I did a little more testing on this (with HDMI 1 direct to receiver).

If I insert SACD it plays in stereo. Eject disc and then put it back in and it plays in MCH.

If I turn on the player, play flac in stereo from either attached storage (eSATA) or from NAS then insert SACD it plays in MCH.

If I turn on the Oppo and play a ripped movie from attached storage then insert SACD it plays in MCH. This movie was played from USB HDD and is an old HD DVD that I've ripped to a Bluray format. Sound track is MCH PCM.

If I turn on the Oppo and play an m2ts file form my NAS, then insert SACD it only plays in stereo. This is a movie ripped form BD and sound track is DTS MA.

Got me flummoxed but Oppo is on the case.

blairy
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post #21251 of 25169
6/5/12 at 12:28am
Just hours to go before the Big AVS Move.

See all you kids on the flip side!
--Bob
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post #21252 of 25169
6/6/12 at 4:58am
Bob,

If you have an AVR that does 3D, do you recommend using two HDMIs cables, one to the display for video and the AVR for audio. If so, why even if the AVR has passthrough?
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post #21253 of 25169
6/6/12 at 5:40am
I would like to know if anyone has any solutions or knowledge about the sound issue with this player. What I am referring to is a momentary silence when playing DVD's. The sound will just cut out momentarily every once in a while. It could happen maybe 20 times when playing a movie DVD. Not sure if it happens playing through a USB external hard drive. I did contact OPPO service and they suggested I replace the HDMI cable to player among a few other things with adjustments. Thought I would throw this in to this thread to get more response and feedback before I go replacing things and messing with settings. Figured if it happened to me, probably happened to others. Funny thing is this never happened before prior to applying all firmware updates. Appreciate any responses.
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post #21254 of 25169
6/6/12 at 6:34am
Bob I do remember seeing MCU and perhaps one other. Truth be told I dont pay much attention when the firmware upgrades happen other than to make sure they complete.

I still havent checked the current version I am on and I guess wont worry about this all that much. Player works fine so no harm.
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post #21255 of 25169
6/6/12 at 7:56am
Wow!!! This place looks a lot different.
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post #21256 of 25169
6/6/12 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post


I use Wifi all the time connecting to the latest model Apple Airport Extreme which acts as my router -- there's just a cable modem between it and the outside world.


The VUDU Network Speed Test (Home Menu > VUDU > MyVudu > Settings) consistently pegs at the top of its range every time I check.


Netflix does have sluggish behavior from time to time, and the first thing I do when that happens is check here to see if the world at large is reporting problems against the Netflix service at the moment:

http://downrightnow.com/netflix


More often than not, when I'm seeing problems the complaints are pouring in from other users -- on other hardware -- as well. This won't always be the case, even if it *IS* a service problem at Netflix end, since the problem may be limited to a particular server farm or path affecting a limited geography. And each time you connect you may get a different service path, which means you can't always even judge by trying two different devices at the same time.


There *IS* a bug being worked on in the current firmware. The symptom is freeze during Netflix playback -- not while browsing in the thumbnails or searching -- which requires a power cycle to cure. I've stated that its occurrence is "very rare", and that's exactly what I'm seeing. And as best I can tell from following the discussion in Beta Test Club, that's a fair assessment.

--Bob

The other issue with netflix, which oppo has explained to me is not under their control, is that many of us experience constant frame rate errors (dropped frames/skipped frames every 10 minutes) that look like quick flickers in the streaming which appear constantly. There's also constant jerkiness during any panning on netflix content. I'm using a hard wired connection 10mb down (no issues as verified multiple times) and Oppo has assured me that this is a netflix issue in which netflix sends priority (read: better) streams to devices that have more users. Roku, xbox, ps3, all get better feeds, whereas us lowly users are being sent somewhat crappier feeds. It's a pretty reprehensible way of doing business for netflix. Customers pay the same amount for a service but are then given different levels of quality depending on their device. I'm not entirely convinced this is a netflix issue because everyone on this board would be seeing these netflix streaming issues I mentioned above. So I think it may be a combination of issues, or my player has some problems. There are many others on here who have the same framerate errors, and it's only on netflix content as far as I can tell. So at this point, the oppo is a "fair" streaming device. It may get better if netflix updates the app and provides better streams, but the chances of that are probably nill.
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post #21257 of 25169
6/6/12 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by gizmobently View Post

I would like to know if anyone has any solutions or knowledge about the sound issue with this player. What I am referring to is a momentary silence when playing DVD's. The sound will just cut out momentarily every once in a while. It could happen maybe 20 times when playing a movie DVD. Not sure if it happens playing through a USB external hard drive. I did contact OPPO service and they suggested I replace the HDMI cable to player among a few other things with adjustments. Thought I would throw this in to this thread to get more response and feedback before I go replacing things and messing with settings. Figured if it happened to me, probably happened to others. Funny thing is this never happened before prior to applying all firmware updates. Appreciate any responses.

Generally this would be attributed to an HDMI handshake. HDCP handshakes occur every few minutes while content is playing, and if this process stumbles you can get a dropout. Replacing the cable from player to AVR - PLUS the cable from AVR to TV is recommended as a troubleshooting step. Making sure all video and audio settings are explicit, (not "auto"), may also help.
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post #21258 of 25169
6/6/12 at 11:10am
Add me to the list of owners of the BDP-93. It's sitting in it's Middle Atlantic slot.....waiting for the theater to get done. I hope this $500 device is all its cracked up to be.
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post #21259 of 25169
6/6/12 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by jes3287 View Post

Add me to the list of owners of the BDP-93. It's sitting in it's Middle Atlantic slot.....waiting for the theater to get done. I hope this $500 device is all its cracked up to be.

Best piece of equipment I've purchased since my receiver 12 years ago.
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post #21260 of 25169
6/6/12 at 11:51am
You will be very happy with the OPPO 93 and happier still with the neverending ;)customer support. gil
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post #21261 of 25169
6/6/12 at 1:54pm
Bob: It sounds like the Oppo's 32 bit dac may be somewhat like the 64 bit processing (internally) that JRiver Media player performs. It uses 64 bits on all material so the digital volume control has enough extra bits so that when it truncates bits as the volume is turned down, it still can play the full 16 or 24 bits of the original music.
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post #21262 of 25169
6/6/12 at 2:41pm
I recently bought a Panny 65 inch VT50 and need a bluray player. Do you guys think I should just buy Oppo 93 + Energy Classic 5.1 speakers OR buy a A/V receiver, Panasonic Blu-ray Player and Energy 5.1 speakers.
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post #21263 of 25169
6/6/12 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by curiousdude View Post

I recently bought a Panny 65 inch VT50 and need a bluray player. Do you guys think I should just buy Oppo 93 + Energy Classic 5.1 speakers OR buy a A/V receiver, Panasonic Blu-ray Player and Energy 5.1 speakers.


Get an AVR.
Edited by Brian-HD - 6/6/12 at 3:36pm
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post #21264 of 25169
6/6/12 at 2:58pm
That sort of depends on what sort of amp/AVR you have now. If you have an older AVR that is lacking HDMI inputs, I would seriously consider that before buying the Oppo. I have an older Panasonic player and it was/is still a very good player and the picture quality for Blu-ray discs on my 65" Panasonic plasma is about the same with the Oppo as before. DVD's look quite a bit better, although the Panasonic Blu-ray player was better than my old Sony DVD player with DVD's. So my choice, I think, would be to first get a "modern" AVR, if you don't currently have one, especially if you don't play a lot of DVD's.
Good luck!
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post #21265 of 25169
6/6/12 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by curiousdude View Post

I recently bought a Panny 65 inch VT50 and need a bluray player. Do you guys think I should just buy Oppo 93 + Energy Classic 5.1 speakers OR buy a A/V receiver, Panasonic Blu-ray Player and Energy 5.1 speakers.
I'm assuming that cost is a factor. If not, get the OPPO. smile.gif

I have the OPPO 93 but I also have a Denon 3806 AVR. I bought the OPPO to provide lossless Blu-ray audio to the Denon, and to do an outstanding job converting DVD movies.

I would get the best AVR/speaker combination you can afford, and try to find the best Sony or Panasonic Blu-ray player that is good at converting DVD movies. If you're someone that doesn't watch DVD movies anymore, then go with the least expensive player that does all the other things you want. What you watch and what you listen to determine what would be best for you.
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post #21266 of 25169
6/6/12 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by curiousdude View Post

I recently bought a Panny 65 inch VT50 and need a bluray player. Do you guys think I should just buy Oppo 93 + Energy Classic 5.1 speakers OR buy a A/V receiver, Panasonic Blu-ray Player and Energy 5.1 speakers.

I own the panasonic gt25 and it works great with the oppo 93 blu ray player.

Jacob
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post #21267 of 25169
6/6/12 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post


Agreed, but I think you'll find you get used to it after a while as I have. It's one of my few complaints with the ergonomics of the new player.

+2
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post #21268 of 25169
6/6/12 at 9:11pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post


Oh it doesn't bother me. But now, my evil twin brother, Skippy, he DOES get a bit twitchy when reading such stuff.


Which reminds me, it's time for his meds -- and a recheck of those leather straps....

--Bob

Way overdue for a new design...wink.gif
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post #21269 of 25169
6/7/12 at 1:31am
I have a question and am not sure if this is the right place to ask or not. If it's not I apologize in advance.

My wife purchased an Oppo BDP-93 from Amazon for my birthday on January 31st, 2012. We received it on Feb. 2nd and it has been sitting unopened in my office since then (long story). Anyway, I am fairly certain this unit has the ISO support which was removed in later firmware.

We may be moving soon and I have decided to sell some of the equipment that I am not going to have room for in the new place. I originally purchased this because of the analog outs for my older Denon 3803. I've decided to rebuild my home theater at a later date. I am curious if the player would be of special interest to a buyer because of the older firmware?

My wife also bought a 3 year extended warranty (SquareTrade) on the unit which is transferable. Worth posting on Ebay?

Thanks.
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post #21270 of 25169
6/7/12 at 2:02am
Oppos generally have a high resale value, but I don't think the presence of an older firmware is a big selling argument.

For those who absolutely need ISO support with the Oppo, getting a player with an older firmware is not the only solution. Players equipped with a region-free mod allow the firmware to be downgraded.
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