Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 721

Thanks, Bill

I did as you recommended above and still had the dropouts.

If it were as simple as a settings mistake or an HDMI cabling/setup issue OPPO would have figured that out by now and told you. Their test setups won't, of course, have such problems.

Evidently there is something peculiar about the decoding of these files. The fact that it is not 100% reproducible makes it tougher. I think you'll just have to be patient until the OPPO engineers have a chance to ferret out just what's going on with them.
--Bob

Wondering if someone who has used a lot of new BD players can offer me some advice:

I purchased a BDP-93 a few weeks ago, and hooked it up to my 70" Sharp (732U).

Disc playback has been flawless, so no issues there.

However, I am not at all happy with the sluggish performance of navigating Netflix and Network/DLNA content. What really tweaked me is my Sharp accesses Netflix and DLNA without any lag. On the Oppo, there is an noticeable and annoying lag when moving around. Hit the button, wait, then the action appears in the screen. The content works fine, but to get to the content is frustrating.

Using Netflix and DLNA (for music and video) is as important as the disc playback - and what I have seen so far is not good.

Part of me want to go grab the Panasonic BDT500 and see how this performs. I am going to hook up an external DAC anyway, so I don't need stellar analog audio in the player.

Thoughts? Advice?

(I am on the latest firmware).

Thanks!

I use DLNA with a Mybook Live 2TB (Twonky) and navigation is very fast. Netflix implementation on the 93 is poor and slow but according to Oppo is up to Netflix to release the new version and there is nothing they can do.

I gave up using Netflix with the 93 because the 5.1 DD+ is important to me and my other devices already have the new version.

I gave up on Netflix streaming also. Video quality was just too inconsistent, audio is only 2.0, and the UI on the Oppo is not great. If I go back to Netflix streaming, it will be with my PS3.

DLNA streaming, however, has not been a problem for me on the Oppo. I don't have any significant lag when navigating. The speed of scrolling and responses to button presses (using a Harmony remote) has improved significantly from the original firmware on the Oppo, and it is quite snappy now (Dec. 2011 firmware). Are you using the Oppo remote? The Oppo remote is overall slow and has lags, but that's for everything, not just DLNA streaming. It's best use is to be put away in a drawer.
Edited by scolumbo - 7/15/12 at 12:08pm

For a lark, I decided to try something different. I took another USB stick and added 5 of the songs from these files individually.
Originally, I transferred the albums as folders, not individual songs. Most of them were WAV and one was Flac.
I input the USB into the Oppo and the songs played without any dropouts. I decided to wipe clean the USB stick that was giving me the trouble and re-copy the hi-rez folders on to it. One song played all the way through without dropouts(first time this ever happened). I then went and put the Oppo into Random mode and hit next. The next song came on and the dropouts returned.I will wipe this USB clean again, add the files as individual songs and see what happens.
To be continued...

Hmmmm, not good.

Wondering if I should try out the Panasonic BDT500 and see if that was any better.

It is frustrating, there does not seem to be the perfect player at any price. I don't mind spending the money, but I don't see anything that does it all.

Why not keeping the Oppo and using your Sharp for Netflix and DLNA ? For less than 100 bucks you can also get a Roku player that will do the streaming much better and faster. Maybe there are other players with a better DLNA performance but I am almost sure they will not support as many audio and video formats.

It could be that the ISO file itself wasn't authored correctly. For example, I'm able to make ISO files using the built-in Disk Utility on OS X, but the 93 won't play them. However, if I use ImgBurn or DVDFab (running under Windows) to create the ISO file the 93 will play them just fine.

That is exactly my dilemma. I like the file support, I just wish it was a bit stronger on the streaming side (thought it doesn't need to be Roku-level, just the top 5-10 apps).

And to your question, I was hoping for one 'universal' player for disc and streaming. I do own a Roku 2 XS (and I have a Revue, which is not hooked up).

My issue is I am going through a 2-channel system with a 2-channel integrated amp (very good gear). As such, I need a strong DAC solution. I was thinking of getting the 95, but wanted more flexibility, so was thinking about the 93 + a nice DAC. I was hoping for 1 source component that would suit all my needs. The Oppo is very close, just scared I will be left wanting in the near future.

Anyone who has been around this stuff for a while will tell you the same thing: For the best in disc playback, streaming applications and file playback/management, you need 3 boxes. The only way to get along with one box is to adjust your expectations. I use 2 boxes plus the streaming services available on my TV, which covers most of the bases. But its an absolute certainty that a one-box solution does not exist and likely never will. It's a question of the functionality of the SOC chips that are available to the different devices.

i went this route and couldn't be happier with my Oppo. I narrowed down my "must have" list to BD playblack, mkv/mp3 over dlna, and pandora. Anything else that the oppo may do is gravy, but for me it does those three items perfectly and so I am set with one device.

Points taken. I guess I was hoping for a magic bullet. That said, maybe I just hold on to the Oppo as my disc device (my Primare CD player is about dead, so I need something) for CD's, DVD's, BD's, as well as files. Then I can use something like my Roku for the other 'stuff'. I can then add an external DAC to the mix for the audio side.

I had about 10 different BD players and some produce a very good picture but nothing sounds as good as the 93 (or 95 if you go analog) When I bought the 93 I didn't get surprised by the picture, since I had a Toshiba XA2 which is amazing with DVD upscaling. The audio, however, was like night and day. The only streaming service I still use is Netflix but on a list of 65 titles I have on my queue, NONE of them is or will be available streaming. I don't watch and don't like Chinese or Bollywood movies and I guess Netflix will start losing customers very soon if they don't get quality instead of quantity. Netflix is the only "not so good" feature of the 93/95 but everything else is fantastic for the price you pay.

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Edited by Lee Jaehong - 7/15/12 at 10:48pm

I had some issues early on with the oppo, but then i had an lcd. when I switched over to plasma most of the problems left. the recent update that fixed the 720P seem to help very much. I also have a very fast speed internet. I find the netflix works fine. better then most people are saying in here for sure. are you using an lcd? that could be the problem?

Jacob

I wiped the 32GB USB stick clean and input all the hi rez files (not folders) on to it invidiually. I think it totalled about 10 GB. Played it on the Opoo and there were dropouts. Wiped clean a 2 GB USB stick again and input 5 Hi rez files on it and played it on the Opoo. No dropouts. Do you think it could be the size of USB stick causing problems? The smaller one works fine with invidual songs but not the larger one.

Again, I'll suggest trying those files on different media like HDD and DVD-ROM. USB sticks are not all created equal regardless of size, some are pretty slow.

Anyone using the OPPO 93 with a Darbee "Darblet" HDMI processor in the line to your display? I am getting 3 second dropouts with any 3D disc.

went over to HD and got these little clear stick on dots that you would put on the bottom of something so it will not scatch wood, or glass. They are like little domes, (if you will) That I put on the eject button. Works great! If you look, you may see on remotes and other objects with number pads, the 5 has a little "nub" or Tit on it. ???? same idea?

Sorry of this has been talked about before.

Now that ISO 3D is gone, can we still however play 3D backups with doing this:
- rip 3D blu-ray to hard drive into Raw BDMV format.
- place the BDMV folder into a AVCHD folder.

Now put USB hard drive with that AVCHD folder to Oppo and play?

If yes is answer, can the AVCHD folder be in a sub folder ( like a directory called 3D movies?

Or does AVCHD folder have to be in root on hard drive.

Again this is for 3D blu-ray backups.

I have tried AVCHD trick in root of hard drive on the new Sony bdp-s790 and it plays 3D movies with menus perfect.

I would rather use a Oppo as I use to have one before the ISO was removed.

Thanks

Panasonic 65" plasma. I don't think the Oppo Netflix picture is worse than any other player, its just the interface and the lack of a better audio. My internet is also fast and has never been an issue. My beef with Netflix now is the lack of titles I watch and the excess of crappy Bollywood and Chinese Kung Foo movies. I am very happy with the Oppo.

I also have a panasonic plasmas set.

Jacob

Yes, AVCHD works. In fact, raw BDMV folders outside of AVCHD still works. You can nest either type inside other folders.

I don't test 3D; perhaps others will say if they have had specific problems with 3D.

-Bill

I agree with others, there is no "one box" solution. Keep the Oppo for what it does best, it's an excellent disc player, supports more audio and video codecs than most other players, has great build quality, and is backed by superb customer service.

Jacob,
My post was poorly worded. I gave up on Netflix streaming not because the Oppo's video quality is subpar compared to other streaming devices, it's because of Neflix's inconsistent video transfers that they make available. Some videos are decent, but others are not. This has been my experience on all 3 devices that have Netflix streaming in my house. For point of reference, I have Neflix streaming devices connected to both plasma and DLP displays. My internet speeds are also not a problem, as I can stream VUDU HDX and get consistently very good results.

When Netflix gives greater priority to video quality and expands their offerings, I'll probably try Netflix streaming again. Unfortunately, the Netflix UI on the Oppo is not the best available, and I can get 5.1 audio on other devices for at least some of their catalog. I'm not blaming Oppo, it's the UI that Netflix makes available to Oppo. However, if I'm going to choose a device for Netflix streaming, there are other better alternatives than the Oppo at the present time.

1st, be aware that when ripping 3D blu-ray to folders, you will most likely get a volume of about 2x the size of the BD disc.

That said, as Bill mentioned you can use BDMV folders any way you like, AVCHD is not required.

I've been in the market for a new blu ray player for a few months as my Sony CDP-CA70ES stop working slowly and maybe upgrade my Panasonic BD-35 at the same time from 08. After reading the forum posts ,reviews and even going out to the local best buy and a few audio salons I am the proud owner of a BDP-93. I know the unit is a couple of years old but as others have said whatever comes next should not make me want more. First impression are that the build quality is very solid and cosmetically it looks to the point and about business which I found some of the other offering not to have unless it was much more. I used the easy setup and followed some instructions on configuring the unit from some AVS members. The video quality was better in clarity and black levels and color when compared to the panny and to make sure I was not forcing myself to believe it I had my significant look at without knowing I changed the unit and she commented it looked better also the load times for certain known titles were much faster for example Avatar. The CD playback is equally great for my Jazz and classical offerings and I like the playback information on my screen but I seem to prefer the analog outputs for music over HDMI. We have a movie night for Darknight coming up in a couple of days just because of the new Batman so I will get others opinion also I want to try other music formats and Netflix .