Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 738

htwaits is correct. If you click through on the link in the listing you saw when searching at Amazon, you'll see is that the seller is "xpw" - an independent seller at Amazon Marketplace.

Once you do that, you'll see Other Buying Options on the right-hand side of the page.

Click on that and you'll see all the sellers using Amazon to offer that item, usually - but not this time - including Amazon itself - which appears to have taken down its own page for the Oppo.

In that list, there are also a few other Marketplace vendors at that price - but if you look further down the page you'll see Oppo itself selling it for $499.99.

You have to learn how to navigate at Amazon - for example, if you search for a Blu-ray and see it being offered for less by a Marketplace vendor, it may be another version - I bought a disk that turned out to be the Canadian version with none of the American version's extra features. There's little detail in those lists.

If you're looking at a very tempting vendor price, click on the vendor's name to get to its Amazon storefront and find the product there - that's where you'll find the detail page.

Last point: Amazon Marketplace sales don't get the benefit of Amazon Prime's free shipping.

So you can get it for $499.99 from Oppo either directly at Oppo.com or through Amazon Marketplace. Compare shipping costs (and speed) in deciding.
Edited by Philnick - 8/9/12 at 7:57am

^ This sort of thing happens when Amazon's own distribution centers are temporarily out of stock of a product they normally keep in inventory.

Amazon's method of deciding which "marketplace" 3rd party resellers to feature in such cases is, umm, bizarre.

Some marketplace resellers modify the product to justify their higher price -- e.g., adding a "region free" board. There's no indication that's happening with "xpw", and if you go to the "xpw storefront" at Amazon, you will find an astoundingly unlikely combo of other products for sale from a place trying to sell OPPO players.

Meanwhile, for the BDP-95 (which Amazon does not, itself, stock into inventory), they are featuring OPPO Digital as the marketplace seller.

Folks should also realize you can always go to the OPPO Digital web site and buy direct from the source. There you will find things like the real price of the BDP-93 is $499.00, not $499.99. And at the moment they even have a limited quantity of BDP-93 refurb units for sale (including full, new unit warranty), at a modest price reduction.
--Bob

How many of you buy the extended warranty through Oppo? Is there a grace period to do so, or is it at time of purchase only?

Thanks. I will decide if I can get the upfront warranty costs past DW at time of purchase.

so it is just the pro mod then? thankyou

I don't remember the exact amount, but I remember reading that out of warranty service is a low fixed price, something like $50.

$50 really?!? Even if it is a bad HDMI board or something like that? Also that is shipping two ways plus $50?

My guess is that not very many buy the extended warranty because OPPO will fix anything wrong with an out of warranty OPPO for a very modest fixed price. There have been cases where OPPO didn't charge for an out of warranty repair.

If you are concerned, ask OPPO what their current out of warranty policy is.

+1.

Jacob

Usually you only pay for shipping one way. The extra warranty really only works for you if you need more than one repair in years 2+.
The flat rate repair is just that, one charge for any repair.

That sounds great. I'm loving Oppo even more. I just wanted to weigh my options, but foregoing the extended warranties seem to be the most cost effective route due to the durability of the Oppo brand. Thank you all for your responses.

Sooo, I just got my BPD-93 today, hooked it up and checked the firmware and it shows: BDP9x-65-0303. Whats the deal with that firmware? I dont see it in the list on the first post. Should I update it? Will I lose anything?

The 65-0303 firmware is identical to the 65-0302 firmware described in the first post of this thread except with the Blockbuster Internet app icon removed. Blockbuster unilaterally decided to stop offering their service on any players except those made by Samsung, so the service itself had already stopped functioning, and the 0303 firmware removed the icon for that defunct app.

You should upgrade either to the "official" 0413 firmware or to the more recent, 0723B, Public Beta firmware just released. See the Support page for the 93 on the OPPO Digital web site for details.

The numbers for these firmware releases are simply their build dates (month and day), so your 0303 firmware is about a month older than the current, "official" 0413 firmware.
--Bob

Just updated to the latest beta firmware via the USB drive. Very simple process. Also did the reset to "restore factory default" as suggested. In all about a 10 minute process.

Philnick (or anyone)

If you are still out there...

Regarding the Oppo Bluraychip.dk mod...

I tried to downgrade the firmware. I went to this page:

http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-93/bdp9x-firmware-65-0302.aspx

I am guessing this March 6th firmware upgrade is the original older one prior to the beta upgrade.

Firmware updated no problem.

I then, according to the instructions on the mod site, did the following...

1. Booted the Oppo player with no disc.
2. Waited for NO DISC to show. Waited 4 seconds
3. On the Oppo Remote, selected DIMMER DIMMER DIMMER and MUTE
4. I then selected 2 for Region B

Disc still will not play.

What am I doing wrong?

Firstly, those region changing instructions only apply to the standard mod, not the professional mod. For the standard mod I believe you have to power the Oppo off and then on again after changing the region code. If the region code is wrong, you should get a message to that effect: a disc not playing may be due to something else. The standard mod seems to work with all Oppo firmware, probably because it can't be firmware upgraded anyway.

If playing a Region B title, although the player may accept Region B with a mod, the disc may have menus at 50Hz which will probably not display on a USA TV and thus looking like the title is not playing (it's stuck at a non-visible menu). In those circumstances, you might need to set the Oppo to output NTSC to force a compatible refresh rate for USA TV for 50Hz sources.

The professional mod uses a simple numeric keystroke on the remote to start the Oppo in a particular region from cold. This mod can be firmware upgraded, which seems to be a mixed blessing in that it often conflicts with newer Oppo firmware.

I'm confused by the combination of Oppo firmware changes and mod instructions you have been through. As far as I'm aware, you can't normally downgrade Oppo firmware, although I have heard that there is a way using the professional mod. It is important to know which mod you are using as the instructions differ between the two main types.

There are 3 main reasons why a title won't play in an Oppo: dirty/defective disc; updated DRM for which the Oppo doesn't yet have a firmware update; and region issues (including both region coding and 50Hz content on 60Hz TVs).
Edited by IanD - 8/10/12 at 6:18am

Hi Ian!

That makes two of us.

The Mod Kit once worked. Now it doesn't. It refuses to play my import DVDs and Blu-rays.

I just tried several of both.

I am guessing I did an firmware update on the Oppo at some point that killed the mod kits ability to play any region.

The instruction I was previously given was to downgrade the firmware. I linked the page I used. Not even certain that is the correct firmware.

Still does not work.

The only instructions I found on the Bluraychip.dk site regarding setup involved using the dimmer and mute buttons and then selection a region using the number key on the remote.

So, yeah, not sure what I am doing here.

If someone has an answer with easy-to-follow instructions I would be very grateful.

Oppo made it possible to downgrade from the current public beta to the most recent official firmware release with the current public beta. Otherwise, they do not support going to prior firmware versions.

If the current Public Beta firmware allows you to re-install any firmware older than the current, "official" 0413 version then that's an Ooops!

Far be it from me to suggest anyone interested in ISO support might want to, umm, help test this. Keep in mind that using older firmware discards fixes, disc compatibility changes, and new features present in the newer firmware. Also be aware that you need matching Loader and Sub/MCU firmware consistent with the older version.

What's SUPPOSED to happen is that the older firmware will be rejected -- i.e., the install won't begin. If the installer actually offers to let you begin the install then that's sufficient test. You can just Cancel out of it. You don't actually have to DO the install to demonstrate the Ooops.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 8/10/12 at 8:49am

The current "official" firmware is the BDP9x-66-0413 version available on the OPPO Digital support page for the 93 and the 95 (or the equivalent OPPO UK page for the 93EU and 95EU models):

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-93/blu-ray-BDP-93-Support.aspx

This is the version just prior to the recently released Public Beta 0732B version (also found on that same page).

It is possible that the 0302 version you attempted to install is *OLDER* than your region-free board is expecting.
--Bob

I've checked the FAQ and Wiki, and I even RTFM, but I'm still unsure...Can I play a Region Free 1080/50i BD and output to an NTSC TV? I'm thinking of getting the original series of Strike Back from the UK.

Okay, so Ive already lot the .iso playback feature and there really isnt anything else Id be losing by upgrading then I guess.

Yes. I did this with a recent SHERLOCK (UK) import.

If the player is set to NTSC output the player will convert the 50hz input to a 60hz output that the TV expects. Looks great.

-Bill

By the way: the BDP-83 FAQ does have a section on 1080i50 Blu-ray; I just didn't replicate it into the BDP-93 FAQ. The feature is the same: Does the player support 1080i50 Blu-ray sources?

-Bill

You have to power down and restart for the code to be changed.

I only have experience of the pro mod. I have seen posts here (one a few below yours) that indicate the standard mod has problems too.

blairy

anyone know if Amazon Instant Video is going to be on the 93?

I wish! I am getting tired of using my ps3 for it!

Me too, hence my asking.