Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 764

Up arrow worked like a champ on Jaws 100th Anni disc.

Just keep in the back of your mind that every studio has their own ideas on how to program this stuff on their discs -- and none of them agree.

And by the way, I really do mean "program". The BD-Java feature of the Blu-ray spec is a programming language. The program comes on the disc along with the movie -- possibly with updates downloaded over the internet -- and is executed by the player during disc playback. The program seizes control of all the User Interface stuff. Which is why OPPO can't simply "fix" silly stuff like the Universal screen saver. The program for a disc only affects playback of that disc (i.e., can't alter the player's firmware, or playback of other discs), but within the scope of playing a given disc, its on disc program is in almost total control.

After a while you'll get familiar with what each of the major studios thinks is "the right way" to do this stuff, and you'll shift gears automatically according to what's in the player. But for now, expect hours of mindless entertainment trying to solve this puzzle for different discs. If you are going to play a disc for family or friends, it is wise to fire it up just for yourself first, so that you can look like an expert during the real playing -- having already figured out the necessary incantations.

What makes it worse is that the studios are still experimenting with all of this. For example, there are several different schemes Universal has tried, and I doubt they are done yet. They are learning as they go, and shipping ALL their mistakes.
--Bob

Anyone know where I can pick up a new BDP-93 for an uninflated price? Everyone that still has them wants $650. At that rate I'll just bite the bullet and get a 95...

I just bought a refurb direct from Oppo for $415 plus tax/S&H. Came with normal 1-year warranty from them. Was in 100% perfect cosmetic condition.

I used to like sunsets. ;(

I think I'm happy to have a 93!

I still do, so long as I restrain myself. I keep feeling the need to tweak the calibration....
--Bob

See this from the BDP-83 FAQ (it's actually the same situation for all BR players): How do I resume from the screensaver on Universal Studio discs?

-Bill
Edited by wmcclain - 9/8/12 at 7:27pm

I also picked one up, arrived today, appears perfect, and works with my projector much better than my old Panny BDp. The sunset and Cinavia was part of the reason I jumped quickly a few days ago when I saw the new units were sold out. I hadn't even heard of the 100 series coming, lucky guess. Now I'm just waiting for my region free mod so I can play all my discs.

It's a good day, installing the Oppo. And a sad day, unplugging my Denon 2900.

I put my Denon 2910 in my living room after installing my 93 in my theater. This way I have DVD-A and SACD playback in both places. My original theater disk player, a Phillips progressive DVD player which can't play CDs any more, now lives on top of my fiancee's TV in her apartment, and the $40 slimline Sony DVD player that had been in my living room is now in her hi-fi system as her CD player, replacing the Karioke machine that my neighbors had left behind when they left.

My old Panny DMP-BD50 Blu-ray player is still in the theater system, as an emergency backup if I get a disk that the 93 won't play until the next firmware update - the BD50 has never refused to play anything (the 93 has not refused to play anything either so far)!
Edited by Philnick - 9/9/12 at 7:01am

^ This is all well and good, but you don't seem to have budgeted for $5000 power cord upgrades. Surely the $40 Sony player could benefit from one of those. And it would be a great conversation starter with your fiancée.

(Just be ready to duck!)
--Bob

Right arrow key has always worked for me to resume from the Universal screensaver: it also makes a kind of intuitive sense.

Could someone clarify to help my understanding. I think the Unofficial FAQ and Manual differ in explanation of Noise options. I think the advice has been given to only use setting 1or 2, but would like to understand what is going on.

Unofficial Faq
""According to the OPPO wiki, the following features from the Qdeo Extended Technology Brief (pdf) are implemented in the BDP-93:

3D Video Noise Reduction (VNR): Video Setup - Picture Adjustment - Noise Reduction levels 4-8

3D De-interlacing: Automatically applied to any interlaced content.

(Please note that the above "3D" references are not related to the Blu-ray 3D format. Here 3D means the three dimensions (X, Y, time) for per-pixel video processing. Basically the video processor checks adjacent pixels and frames to make a processing decision).

Nonlinear scaling: Not in use. However linear scaling is used for video up-conversion.

2D Edge Enhancement: Video Setup - Picture Adjustment - Sharpness

Adaptive Contrast Enhancement (ACE): Video Setup - Picture Adjustment - Contrast Enhancement

Intelligent Color Remapping (ICR): Video Setup - Picture Adjustment - Color Enhancement

Compression Artifact Reduction (CAR): Video Setup - Picture Adjustment - Noise Reduction levels 1-3

Qdeo True Color(QTC): Applied to HDMI1 when a deep color mode is enabled

Natural Depth Expansion (NDE): This is just another name for the detail and edge enhancement function. Video Setup - Picture Adjustment - Sharpness""


MANUAL
"". Noise Reduction: To select whether the player shall apply video noise reduction processing.  

For HDMI 1, the noise reduction level can be set between 0 and 8. The default is level 0, which turns off noise reduction.  

• When set to level 1, the player adjusts the picture quality by reducing the “mosquito noise” (artifacts around the outlines of objects) and “block noise” (mosaic-like patterns caused by video compression). These two noise reduction are also called Compression Artifacts Reduction (CAR) and have several levels of aggressiveness.  

• When set to level 2, the player applies the Motion Adaptive Video Noise Reduction (VNR), which handles the random noise and the film-grain noise (natural variation of picture intensity caused by film grain). Its level is automatic because there is a noise estimator circuitry in the video processor that calculates how much noise presents and adjusts the level of VNR accordingly.  

• When set to 3 or 4, the player applies both CAR and Motion Adaptive VNR, with more aggressive “block noise” reduction at level 4.  

• At level 5, the player applies aggressive CAR for low quality video content, and adds Motion Adaptive VNR at level 6.  

• At level 7, the player applies the most aggressive CAR for very low quality video, and adds Motion Adaptive VNR at level 8.  

Remember that excessive noise reduction may cause a loss of details. We recommend using the noise reduction function only when you encounter poorly encoded or compressed video that has apparent noise artifacts. ""

Bob,

Thanks for the help on the screensaver. I'll have to try it out.

Do you play CD's on your Oppo as well? I've dug out a bunch of CDs from the basement (all my music is in iTunes) and I was pretty surprised that the album art, and the song tittle doesn't appear on my tv screen.

The sound quality is very apparent when I would switch back from apple tv to the oppo.

Bill. Thanks for the help!!

The addition of album art and track info to music tracks post-dates the CD standard. I've occasionally found it on newer CDs or if I've down-sampled an HDtracks 96/24 download, which includes that info, to make a CD version for my car. It's also possible that it's built into eMusic mp3s.

You'll see track info and sometimes album art when playing a CD in a computer because many music players - such as Winamp - automatically fetch that info from the net - it's not on the disk itself.
Edited by Philnick - 9/9/12 at 7:18am

 

Are your CD's the "usual" audio CD's (CDDA) available for purchase just about anywhere? These don't contain artwork or titles ... and the Oppo BDP-93 doesn't look them up for you.

Sadly, the Sony player's power cord is permanently attached!

So, $5100 then. Labor.

If you want to rip music to stream it to your Oppo sounding as good as putting in a disk, use FLAC ("Free Lossless Audio Codec"). It doesn't compress nearly as much as MP3 or AAC - only 2:1 instead of up to 10:1 - but it expands to a bit-for-bit perfect copy of the original file, and the Oppo plays them as if you had put them on a disk or USB drive. Winamp can rip to FLAC on Windows machines, and I'm sure there are programs for Mac and Linux that will do the same. Check SourceForge.net, part of the "open source" movement, for something that works on your machine.

I use a free - and tiny - Windows program on my main computer called oShare, to stream music files to the Oppo over my local area network. You can download it from SourceForge. You unzip its download, put it in its own folder, click on its exe file to point it to the folders you want to share on your network, set it to start with Windows, and you're done with its setup.

At the Oppo you press the button with a house on it to switch from the logo screen to the browser screen (the same button takes you back to the logo screen), click on My Network in the top right corner, select your oShare server, and you can then browse by folder under the Music heading. The Movies heading requires that you've got your movie files in a format the Oppo understands and can play (a huge subject in itself), but the Oppo can play just about any format of music file, from MP3s to 5.1 96/24 FLAC files from iTrax.com and stereo 192/24 files from HDtracks.com.
Edited by Philnick - 9/9/12 at 11:11am

$5,100 is a bit much, since I believe there was a $3,500 power cord that included a free Oppo.

Thanks for putting this all in one post. Exactly what I needed for "entry-level" home network audio streaming!

PS How much for a tool to extract a tongue that's gotten stuck in one's cheek?

Ok.. Im detecting alot of sarcasm here.. But I did upgrade my power cord on my Oppo. I bought a Audioquest NRG -2. I'm not sure if I've been had or not. But I need to test it versus the power cord that came with the Oppo. But I think it will be to hard to test since it will require unplugging it and rebooting it.. and the gap in between the 2 Im not sure I might be able to tell even if there is one...

Any thoughts? Im new to the whole "power cord enriches your music/sound" thing. Part of me wants the best sound possible for my movies, which is why I bought it. Part of me says I was sold by an AV sales guy who sells Audioquest.

I think refurb is a great idea. The equipment has been gone over twice, with a fine examination. I would never hesitate to go that route. Plus, you save money.

Proper testing will require two identical players connected to the same sound system and a team to enforce blind testing so you are not swayed by other factors.

Also get the power company to install audiophile grade transmission lines between the power station and your house. Redo the house wiring, too.

But seriously folks: there is an Audio Theory Setup and Chat forum. This would be better there.

-Bill

Gary:

I just did that a few weeks ago to fit in a fan in my new rack. I called up Oppo for help on this. You have to remove your player from the rack, flip it upside down and with a phillips screw driver, remove the center screw that holds each foot on the player. Afterwards insert in rack as usual.

- David

I fully understand where you are coming from as i bought new power cords for my setup. Not for their claimed musicality but because it heavy(12-guage) and was doubly shielded and would not radiate 60Hz hum plus other AM radio noise frequencies that are common to the typical house powerline. Power Cord PRO.jpg 406k .jpg file

Which is correct? Manual or Unofficial FAQ?

Thanks

Wayne.

Will the Oppo 93 be discontinued soon?