Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 774

Originally Posted by Ejs71 

Hope I'm posting in the right section. I just bought a 93 and love it. But bought it mainly for movies. I don't have any SACD's. How does SACD work? is it just paying through all the channels? I'm running a 4.1 (phantom center) through a Elite receiver. Will SACD run ok on just a 4.1? Will I be missing out the quality or benefits of SACD with out a center channel? Anyone know a good place to buy SACD's? Is there a certain way to set up the Oppo for using SACD? I'm just using the HDMI provided.

Originally Posted by bakerwi 

There are more than a few titles available depending on the genre. SA-CD.net shows more than 200 new relases (I don't know the time frame) and Amazon and eBay have thousands for sale. However, I do agree that they can be a little pricey depending on the title. I have several that I paid less than $20 for way back when that I can sell to today for between $100 and $200 dollars.

Originally Posted by BuckNaked 

Thanks.

I actually tried Bob's Ratatouille test just last night. To be honest, I had a had time discerning any differences. I was sitting right in front of my screen in the dark for about an hour going back and forth. It's hard to A/B on account of the Oppo menu overlay. In the end, I went with RGB/36bit, but I will take another look at 30bit (dithered).

Originally Posted by BuckNaked 

SACD is a revelation. The better ones done in 5.1 are simply amazing. If you are more than a casual audio listener, you will definitely appreciate the format. The 93 is very much a "plug and play" SACD machine, as long as you have an HDMI-capable receiver or pre/pro. I set mine up to bitstream DSD and it sounds fantastic. Of course you can do analog out if you prefer, but there is a little more set-up to be done in the player.
Thank God for Japan. Japan is single-handedly keeping the format alive. I buy most of my titles on cdjapan.com. I just bought a bunch of Rolling Stones and Who SACDs. You are right about the prices of some of the more sought-after OOP titles. I was looking to round out my Bowie collection the other day and was shocked by what the 2002s are going for on the secondaries.

Originally Posted by Philnick 

1) Check out CDUniverse.com. They've one of the largest collections of SACD and DVD-Audio disks. (I prefer DVD-A to SACD but they're both good.) AIXRecords.com sells DVD-Audio and Blu-ray music disks they record themselves that are recorded at some of the highest bit rates around, but their catalog isn't the largest. They also carry disks from other labels. AnalogRecords.com primarily sells new vinyl pressings of classic albums but also some SACD versions. Also look at Blu-ray music disks. They can carry even higher-quality surround than either SACD and DVD-A, though most concert disks are at 48/16 or 48/24, since most video equipment uses 48k sampling, but AIX's Blu-ray disks are 5.1 96/24.
I'm personally partial to flac (lossless compressed) PCM downloads from HDtracks.com (well-known albums) and iTrax.com (AIX's download site) more than physical disks, since I can stream the downloads to the Oppo and avoid having to juggle disks.
2) Unless your AVR knows how to decode SACD's native DSD bitstreamed over HDMI, you should have the Oppo convert the DSD to PCM, which all AVRs can understand. This will also let you use the multichannel configuration screen to tell the Oppo which channels you have and which you don't have, so it can fold the information from the absent channels into channels you have - that screen won't do anything for bitstreamed DSD.
3) The Oppo comes set up to default to playing the high quality 5.1 surround versions of both SACDs and DVD-As instead of their stereo or "backward compatible" versions (Dolby Digital or DTS for DVD-A on all DVD-A disks; standard CD on "hybrid" SACDs), so you don't have to worry about that with your speaker set-up.
Enjoy!

Originally Posted by Ejs71 

Phil, thanks for the reply.. I have a brand new Elite SC-61.. Im sure it can decode SACD's. I dont know for sure.. but it play's blu-ray's on DTS-HD Master. I'm using 4.1 wiht no center channel (not by choice). Do you think the SACD's will do ok with "phantom center"? Im a little confused on #3 in your reply. Were you referring to my 4.1 set-up?
Thanks for all your help!! Do you know if there's a way to play mkv or mov or mv4 on the Oppo? Just wondering.

Originally Posted by Philnick 

Your AVR should be able to be told in its channel setup that you don't have a center channel speaker, in which case it will automatically mix that channel's information, from whatever source, into the two front channels.
SACDs can have several versions of the album: SACD surround, stereo, and/or mono, and, in the case of "hybrid" disks (maybe half of all SACDs), a standard CD layer to make it work in a normal CD player.
The player needs to know which version to play. The Oppo defaults to playing the SACD surround version, but will fall back another version if that's not found. You can tell the player to default to a different version.
A similar situation applies with DVD-Audio disks, which all have a movie-style ("DVD-Video ") Dolby Digital or DTS version so they'll play in ordinary DVD players. The Oppo comes set to default to the DVD-Audio version, but can be set to play the DVD-Video version instead.
The last question I can't help you with in detail other than I'm pretty sure it can - but there are a lot of folks here who can tell you more.

Originally Posted by Ejs71 

Buck.. Thanks for the heads up. Yes.. I have HDMI going into a Pioneer Elite HDMI.. When you say you have bit stream set to DSD, is that on the Oppo? I am not using the analog outputs on the Oppo. If you read.. I'm not using a center channel.. (not by choice) Do you think I'll be ok? The Elite is set up for 4.1.

Originally Posted by Abel Calvo 

Dear friends,

I just wanted to ask if it is possible to connect the 93 to the AVR both via HDMI and the 7.1 analog interconnects simultaneously. I would like to be able to use the HDMI to pass the DTS MA or Dolby TrueHD signal to the AVR when using BDs, but also to be able to let the Oppo internally decode the respective signals of SACDs, DVD-As and regular CDs and passing them via analog to the AVR, as I tend to prefer analog when listening to this sources.

Originally Posted by BuckNaked 

Yes, the setting is in the Oppo. To be clear, there are two separate choices you need to make: I am not really familiar with a 4.1 set-up. I do know SACD MC contains 6 discreet channels of audio. I'm not sure how your AVR would matrix that once received, but I would imagine it would be similar to the performance you get off a 5.1 Blu-ray soundtrack.

Originally Posted by JazzGuyy 

There have been at least a few SACD discs released that were 4.1 or 4.0. They were mostly remastered from the old quad recordings of the late '60s and the '70s. These would, of course, work perfectly in a 4.0 setup.

Originally Posted by BuckNaked 

SACD is a revelation. The better ones done in 5.1 are simply amazing. If you are more than a casual audio listener, you will definitely appreciate the format. The 93 is very much a "plug and play" SACD machine, as long as you have an HDMI-capable receiver or pre/pro. I set mine up to bitstream DSD and it sounds fantastic. Of course you can do analog out if you prefer, but there is a little more set-up to be done in the player.
Thank God for Japan. Japan is single-handedly keeping the format alive. I buy most of my titles on cdjapan.com. I just bought a bunch of Rolling Stones and Who SACDs. You are right about the prices of some of the more sought-after OOP titles. I was looking to round out my Bowie collection the other day and was shocked by what the 2002s are going for on the secondaries.

Originally Posted by wmcclain 


No.


DLNA does not support AVCHD directory structures. It is an open question as to whether this is even possible with DLNA.


What you describe works with local storage like USB, esata and optical disc.


-Bill

Originally Posted by Pye Seize 

Hi Bill,
I was about to post a "new" topic asking if my Oppo BDP-93 would play Blue-ray folders located on a NAS, via Network. From what u'v said above, the answer should be no but as your exchange with Ash was some time ago, I guess I'm hoping things may have (magically!) changed since then. Any chance . . . . .!!??

Originally Posted by scirica 

1) Getz/Gilberto, a deal at $16.35

Originally Posted by rdgrimes 

OT:
Be aware there are 3 versions of that on SACD. The latest remaster from Analog Productions is by far the better. The Japan SMH SACD uses the older and inferior master yet costs twice as much. An older release on SACD is also still available at lower prices and uses the same master as the SMH SACD..

Originally Posted by rdgrimes 

OT:
Be aware there are 3 versions of that on SACD. The latest remaster from Analog Productions is by far the better. The Japan SMH SACD uses the older and inferior master yet costs twice as much. An older release on SACD is also still available at lower prices and uses the same master as the SMH SACD..

Originally Posted by fookoo_2010 

Interesting. The question that has to be asked if you, assuming that you have the other 2 versions of the SACD, can hear a difference? And what is that difference using the same audio equipment in the same room where the only variable is the SACD?

Originally Posted by BuckNaked 

Welcome to the forum. Yes, the analog outs are always "live" even when you are using HDMI. So, you an certainly switch between both outputs. I don't do this for SACD, but I do have the 93 set up to output 2 channel analog for redbook CDs.
Try it out, and let us know how it goes.

Originally Posted by BuckNaked 

Welcome to the forum. Yes, the analog outs are always "live" even when you are using HDMI. So, you an certainly switch between both outputs. I don't do this for SACD, but I do have the 93 set up to output 2 channel analog for redbook CDs.
Try it out, and let us know how it goes.

Originally Posted by rdgrimes 

It's not possible to play BDMV folders via DNLA, or ISO. For that you need support for network shares, (SMB / NFS). The BDP-103 will offer that.

Originally Posted by Neuromancer 

Probably not, no. The reason why is the player needs to mount the entire BDMV in order to load it like it was a physical disc. Otherwise it just reads individual files and folders.
I've not tested this myself, so you will have to see if one of the beta testers has and can confirm BDMV over DLNA.

Originally Posted by slimoli 

I am a bit surprised with people still buying the 93 , now that the 103 has been announced and available soon. The price is the same and I wonder if there is anything better on the 93 compared to the 103. ISO is gone, so that's not the reason.