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post #23341 of 25170
^ Not strange at all. As best I can remember, you are the first person to raise the suggestion. The "real" 2D release versions of any title would DEFINITELY look better for 2D viewing.
--Bob
post #23342 of 25170
I decided to purchase a 93 and got it for a song:) WIth that being said, I'm VERY impressed with this player!! Doing a/b comparisons with my HTPC, well.....there is no comparison! A couple of questions.

I back up all my BD's (well the spillage NOT in the changer) as M2TS files (no extras) with Clown BD. I was under the impression that via DLNA, the Oppo would handle these files but so far, that's not the case. It will play .mkv files easily. Does that mean I would need to take ALL those M2TS files and now put them in an .mkv container? If so (that's a LOT of work), what is the easiest way to do so?

Next question. While I'm aware of the 103's advanced (well, more so then the 93) network cababilities, is there any reliable way to send commands via RS-232 (on EITHER machine) to essentially have it play a movie via a frontend (like XBMC)? I would like to have it replace my "player" in my HTPC, if at all possible. Again, I'm VERY impressed with this player and at a $500 list price, it's even MORE impressive!!

I'm also wondering if, by way of (hopefully continued) firmware support, can the networking features of the 93 be improved to be more on par with the 103?
Edited by Darrin - 10/7/12 at 4:57am
post #23343 of 25170
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Originally Posted by Darrin View Post


I was under the impression that via DLNA, the Oppo would handle these files
but so far, that's not the case.

That must be a restriction of the DLNA server you are using. It works with
others: Twonky for sure.
Quote:
Next question. While I'm aware of the 103's advanced (well, more so then the
93) network cababilities, is there any reliable way to send commands via
RS-232 (on EITHER machine) to essentially have it play a movie via a frontend
(like XBMC)? I would like to have it replace my "player" in my HTPC, if at all
possible. Again, I'm VERY impressed with this player and at a $500 list price,
it's even MORE impressive!!

Pushing content to the player? No, there is no way to do that. Digital Media
Renderer capability was added to the BDP-103.
Quote:
I'm also wondering if, by way of (hopefully continued) firmware support, can
the networking features of the 93 be improved to be more on par with the
103?

I'm guessing (and I mean that) future firmware will address disc compatability
issues but it's unlikely you'll see major new functionality.

-Bill
post #23344 of 25170
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

That must be a restriction of the DLNA server you are using. It works with
others: Twonky for sure.
Pushing content to the player? No, there is no way to do that. Digital Media
Renderer capability was added to the BDP-103.
I'm guessing (and I mean that) future firmware will address disc compatability
issues but it's unlikely you'll see major new functionality.
-Bill

I'm running Jriver atm. I'll give Twonky a shot as it seems to be one of the preferred with guys running similiar setups. Can you please elaborate on the Digital Media Renderer capability? Thanks in advance.
post #23345 of 25170
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Originally Posted by Darrin View Post


Can you please elaborate on the Digital Media Renderer capability?

See the BDP-103 FAQ: Is the player a Digital Media Renderer?

-Bill
post #23346 of 25170
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

See the BDP-103 FAQ: Is the player a Digital Media Renderer?
-Bill

Thanks for that. It sure would be nice to be able to use WMC to push the media to the new Oppo.
post #23347 of 25170
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Nuforce has been forced to reduce its BDP-93 NuForce edtion upgrade kit from $400 to $250 ...no doubt due to the introduction of the BDP-103 from Oppo!

wow! that is good news!
post #23348 of 25170
While watching "People Like Us" a status box was on the screen for the duration of the movie. After turning off & back on, it came back after about 30 minutes. Ruined the movie. I tried everything to remove it. I don't expect any help as I am on an old Fw. Am I the only one? y2ybyje9.jpg

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post #23349 of 25170
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Not strange at all. As best I can remember, you are the first person to raise the suggestion. The "real" 2D release versions of any title would DEFINITELY look better for 2D viewing.
--Bob

An interesting comment, considering many 3D titles use the left eye for a 2D presentation.

I understand only a minority of 3D titles use an exclusive 3D disc as well as a separate 2D disc. I guess this could be because the 3D has been tweaked to look better on 3D displays (and might look worse on a 2D display), but the studios could of course have their own agenda.

I asked the question, since some consumers would like to watch 3D in 2D, because it has an aspect ratio they prefer or other advantages over the 2D disc: Titanic comes to mind (for the aspect ratio and possible detail improvement).

If players won't do it, to satisfy the consumer, then the only other option is to rip the disc and process it to remove the block (which I gather the studios would prefer not to happen).
post #23350 of 25170
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Originally Posted by Geezer View Post

While watching "People Like Us" a status box was on the screen for the duration of the movie. After turning off & back on, it came back after about 30 minutes. Ruined the movie. I tried everything to remove it. I don't expect any help as I am on an old Fw. Am I the only one?

Is that from the on-disc chapter selection screen? Looks like the disc is too eager to show it to you.

You can't upgrade to new firmware? Is this because you want to retain ISO support? If so, note that any title-only backup method would probably solve this. You just need to lose the java programming on the disc.

-Bill
post #23351 of 25170
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Originally Posted by Geezer View Post

While watching "People Like Us" a status box was on the screen for the duration of the movie. After turning off & back on, it came back after about 30 minutes. Ruined the movie. I tried everything to remove it. I don't expect any help as I am on an old Fw. Am I the only one?

There was a bug like this fixed in prior firmware, but it is not listed in the release notes and my recollection was that the fix was made back before ISO went away. So you may have found a new variant of this.

In any event, even though you are on old firmware, it doesn't hurt to pass what you've found along to OPPO as a heads up so they can check the disc against the current firmware. Please include the time code information where the problem appears and also please include the bar code number from the disc packaging so they can be sure they are looking at the same release version of that title.

Another thing to try is to remove the disc, Erase Persistent Storage, power cycle the player, and try again. The problem may be due to old cruft left in Persistent Storage from other titles released by that Studio. One title is not SUPPOSED to be able to affect playback of another title, but studio programming is, umm, rather odd at times.
--Bob
post #23352 of 25170
Thread Starter 
You will also want to set Secondary Audio to OFF and HDMI Audio to LPCM (if you are going to a television or older receiver that lacks decoding for Dolby Digital TrueHD or DTS-HD Master) or Bit Stream under Audio Format Setup. Do not rely on AUTO.

You may also want to try upgrading again to the 61-1219 Firmware just to ensure that your firmware is just not degrading or is somehow damaged.
post #23353 of 25170
Netflix and the BDP-93

In a previous firmware update Oppo improved our 93/95's with this improvement:

"Improved video up-conversion quality over the HDMI 1 output for 720p source material. This improvement provides a better picture quality for Netflix streaming as well as 720p-encoded Blu-ray discs."

My display is a ISF calibrated Pro-111FD.

My question is will Neflix playback have better picture quality because of the better picture processing in the 93? I also have a PS3 and a Tivo premiere that can playback Netflix? I'm always thinking which of the 3 will better handle Netflix streaming.

Any feedback on this?

Thanks
post #23354 of 25170
Have any other 93 owner's come across what I'm about to describe - when the disc drawer retracts (loaded with a disc) sometimes there is what I can only describe a very noticeable 'Brrrr' sound which occurs as the players spindle starts to spin the disc. To the best of my recollection it's done it since I bought the player (16 months ago). Other than what i have described the playback of all discs is really whisper quiet. Player is on a glass Soundstyle rack.

Have Pro-mod kit installed (by dealer) and running v0723 firmware.

Any thoughts guys
post #23355 of 25170
The 93 is the worst of the lot, I'm afraid. That's not to say the 93 doesn't do the best it can with what Netflix gives it, but Netflix gives your other devices better streams, and there's just no way around that.
post #23356 of 25170
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Edllguy View Post

My question is will Neflix playback have better picture quality because of the better picture processing in the 93? I also have a PS3 and a Tivo premiere that can playback Netflix? I'm always thinking which of the 3 will better handle Netflix streaming.

Not really, no. The main benefit of this firmware is that it solves issues that some customers were reporting, such as the picture being blurry, interlacing lines appearing on the screen, and chromatic abrasions. It doesn't really make Netflix better, just returns Netflix streaming back to the original quality Netflix intended.
post #23357 of 25170
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by geoffreyc View Post

Have any other 93 owner's come across what I'm about to describe - when the disc drawer retracts (loaded with a disc) sometimes there is what I can only describe a very noticeable 'Brrrr' sound which occurs as the players spindle starts to spin the disc. To the best of my recollection it's done it since I bought the player (16 months ago). Other than what i have described the playback of all discs is really whisper quiet.

This is normal. The "grinding" sound that you are hearing is the servo moving back and forth to the initial position to read the disc. You usually hear this more when the player is first booted, then when you have already turned it on and ejected the tray once already.
post #23358 of 25170
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

An interesting comment, considering many 3D titles use the left eye for a 2D presentation.
I understand only a minority of 3D titles use an exclusive 3D disc as well as a separate 2D disc. I guess this could be because the 3D has been tweaked to look better on 3D displays (and might look worse on a 2D display), but the studios could of course have their own agenda.
I asked the question, since some consumers would like to watch 3D in 2D, because it has an aspect ratio they prefer or other advantages over the 2D disc: Titanic comes to mind (for the aspect ratio and possible detail improvement).
If players won't do it, to satisfy the consumer, then the only other option is to rip the disc and process it to remove the block (which I gather the studios would prefer not to happen).

Interesting topic. I have a couple kids movies I have bought off of Ebay with just the 3D disc. I think there is a good market for people buying the 3D combo packs (for the couple extra bucks on sale) and then selling the 3D disc by itself on Ebay. Anyway, my kids don't always want to watch the movie in 3D. So, In my setup my Sharp Elite Set has a menu option to watch the 3D blu ray movie in 2D. Can't say I notice a significant difference (really any difference actually but I obviously don't have 2 sets side-by-side) in picture quality watching the 3D blu ray disc in 2D. Not sure if other TV's have this ability in their menu's. As an alternative to changing it on the player menu.
post #23359 of 25170
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Originally Posted by geoffreyc View Post

Have any other 93 owner's come across what I'm about to describe - when the disc drawer retracts (loaded with a disc) sometimes there is what I can only describe a very noticeable 'Brrrr' sound which occurs as the players spindle starts to spin the disc. To the best of my recollection it's done it since I bought the player (16 months ago). Other than what i have described the playback of all discs is really whisper quiet. Player is on a glass Soundstyle rack.
Have Pro-mod kit installed (by dealer) and running v0723 firmware.
Any thoughts guys

Yes, Very common on my unit as well.
post #23360 of 25170
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Originally Posted by MikeWWW View Post

Just ordered a BDP-93. Mainly for playing my cd's.
I also have an extensive collection of music on my ipad.
Is it possible to play the ipad music through the Oppo utilizing the Cirrus dac's?
If so. How do I do this?
Thanks
Mike W

Update:
The oppo 93 is a very impressive cd player. Outstanding!
I have managed to play the music from my laptop through the Oppo wirelessly by using Twonky.
(Did not try it with the ipad but I think it would work just as well.)
This sounds great but I have to control the music via the tv screen.
My goal is to use Itunes on my laptop to select & play my choices.
Would I need another piece of hardware to do this? Such as an Apple tv box?
Anyone have experience in his area?
Thanks for any ideas
MikeW
post #23361 of 25170
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Originally Posted by MikeWWW View Post

Update:
The oppo 93 is a very impressive cd player. Outstanding!
I have managed to play the music from my laptop through the Oppo wirelessly by using Twonky.
(Did not try it with the ipad but I think it would work just as well.)
This sounds great but I have to control the music via the tv screen.
My goal is to use Itunes on my laptop to select & play my choices.
Would I need another piece of hardware to do this? Such as an Apple tv box?
Anyone have experience in his area?
Thanks for any ideas
MikeW

I use an Airport Express to stream music from my Mac to my HT system, and another for a stereo only set-up in a different room.

Also, if you have an iPhone of an iPod Touch, there is an Apple Remote App that lets you access your iTunes library remotely so you would not need to directly access your laptop.

An Apple TV box would also work in place of the Airport Express.

Brian
Edited by BGLeduc - 10/9/12 at 1:51pm
post #23362 of 25170
I do this with Airport Express units in each room and either play off of my MBP or iOS devices or using the program AirFoil to send to any number of AirPort Expresses from a windows or apple computer.
post #23363 of 25170
I noticed a few posts regarding experiences of the unit vibrating during disc playback, especially during the initial loading of a disc.

I have noticed this with my BDP-93 and wondering whether I should be concerned. I haven't noticed any issue in performance as a result, but am worried this could develop into something in the future and want to tackle it before my warranty expires: 12/2012.
I first noticed it by my finger remaining on a button during a disc loading and have now confirmed that it's happening no matter which kind of disc is being played. It's strongest during the loading process but continues during playback. CD's are the worst, and these are retail discs, not burned.

Wondering of those who've experienced this if there's been an worsening over time, what if anything you've done about it, and how Oppo has responded to those who've reported it.
I can't seem to locate the post, but I thought I remember reading where someone reported and received a replacement. I thought I remember it being diagnosed as an issue with the transport, and that's what it feels like to the touch as I perceive it. As though it's wobbling when a disc is spinning.

I've registered the unit with Oppo and am about to email them, but wanted to see what I could find out here first.

Thanks guys,
post #23364 of 25170
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Originally Posted by ourmanritter View Post

I noticed a few posts regarding experiences of the unit vibrating during disc playback, especially during the initial loading of a disc.

There are lots of posts about it because everyone hears this. It's normal. Yes, the initial load is definitely audible, and I've also heard more noise from some media types than others during normal playback (e.g. Blu-rays are nearly dead silent after the initial load, AVCHDs still have a little audible whir), different rotation speeds I assume, and I'm assuming each device is slightly different within tolerances. You can always contact support to ease your mind, but really, it's nothing.
post #23365 of 25170
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Originally Posted by CatBus View Post

There are lots of posts about it because everyone hears this. It's normal. Yes, the initial load is definitely audible, and I've also heard more noise from some media types than others during normal playback (e.g. Blu-rays are nearly dead silent after the initial load, AVCHDs still have a little audible whir), different rotation speeds I assume, and I'm assuming each device is slightly different within tolerances. You can always contact support to ease your mind, but really, it's nothing.


Thanks,
I'm not hearing any noise associated with the vibrating/wobbling, it's entirely physical, i.e. I can feel the unit shaking. ...but I do remember reading a post in this thread that an owner contacted Oppo and was offered a replacement unit and I thought it said Oppo acknowledged the or an issue... I'll try to find that post.
I'ts just difficult to believe that vibrating of the chassis over time wouldn't result in some sort of issue, possibly parts coming loose and/or the transport actually failing. ...know what I mean? This is more than typical sympathetic vibration from a transport spinning or from a fan, etc.
post #23366 of 25170
Just had my first non-playing disc on my Oppo 93: a rental "This Means War" that locks up at a black screen before it gets to any of the menus.

I've cleaned the disc (I always do with rentals) and there are no scratches and also erased persistent storage, but no go.

I expect it is new DRM that is probably fixed with a firmware update, however it's really annoying because I absolutely will not update the firmware and lose ISO capability. I hadn't realised up until this point how annoying DRM problems can be, because this is my first real experience of it.

I think the studios are creating a potential for a huge consumer backlash against Bluray (of course this could be their intention to "encourage" consumers towards a streaming PPV model).
post #23367 of 25170
HD Music Questions


1.

I'm trying to play back a multichannel (6channel) flac on my Oppo 93

However, the files are not showing up on my Oppo Home Menu Browser under Music or Videos

The same Album (Oasis - Whats The Story...) in the same folder with the 2 channel version works just fine

I'm very confused....

How can I get them to play on my Oppo? Can I burn them to disc, and if so, how (meaning which option in the burning menu?) - I use a Mac and have Toast Titanium 11


2.

I have a number of DVD Audios. I ripped them all to ISO format a couple of years ago, and was using it fine on my Oppo - my brother was using my system this week, and he upgraded the firmware I've being trying to avoid doing! I'm reluctant to use the actual discs because of wear and tear and they are impossible for me to find anymore, so I'm playing it cautious -

How can I burn the ISO's to DVD via Toast Titanium to retain the high res audio and multi channel output?


3.

There is no way to roll back the firmware at all right? I've scoured the net and the forums and no luck....
post #23368 of 25170
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

Just had my first non-playing disc on my Oppo 93: a rental "This Means War" that locks up at a black screen before it gets to any of the menus.

I've cleaned the disc (I always do with rentals) and there are no scratches and also erased persistent storage, but no go.

I expect it is new DRM that is probably fixed with a firmware update, however it's really annoying because I absolutely will not update the firmware and lose ISO capability. I hadn't realised up until this point how annoying DRM problems can be, because this is my first real experience of it..

More likely a BDLive issue than DRM. I'll have a copy of that one shortly and will check it out.
post #23369 of 25170
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Originally Posted by mishalgunner View Post

HD Music Questions


1.

I'm trying to play back a multichannel (6channel) flac on my Oppo 93

However, the files are not showing up on my Oppo Home Menu Browser under Music or Videos

The same Album (Oasis - Whats The Story...) in the same folder with the 2 channel version works just fine

I'm very confused....

How can I get them to play on my Oppo? Can I burn them to disc, and if so, how (meaning which option in the burning menu?) - I use a Mac and have Toast Titanium 11


2.

I have a number of DVD Audios. I ripped them all to ISO format a couple of years ago, and was using it fine on my Oppo - my brother was using my system this week, and he upgraded the firmware I've being trying to avoid doing! I'm reluctant to use the actual discs because of wear and tear and they are impossible for me to find anymore, so I'm playing it cautious -

How can I burn the ISO's to DVD via Toast Titanium to retain the high res audio and multi channel output?


3.

There is no way to roll back the firmware at all right? I've scoured the net and the forums and no luck....

(1) The files don't show up in the browser at all? And they have the same .flac extensions as the files that do? That's strange. Could you double check it?

(2) Doesn't the Toast document or online help explain how to burn an ISO file as a disc image? Maybe other Mac users here will help.

(3) Contact OPPO and ask. I think it's been done by servicing the player, but that means shipping it to them.

-Bill
post #23370 of 25170
Hi i've got the EU version of this machine and i'm very happy with it, i do have a couple of questions though.

1. how do i access netflix ? i've connected it to the net and downloaded the latest firmware update (bdp9xeu 71 0723) i've selected internet and all that comes up is youtube and picassa.

2. where do i get the wifi dongle from ? i bought my machine second hand and it didn't come with the adaptor.


Many thanks

Charles
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