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post #23461 of 25196
10/18/12 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by quad4.0 View Post

I posted this in the wrong place at first.
I was wondering about this. I put one in yesterday, the ne model, (was only $250.00) and immediatly noticed the detail and warmth. Doing some checking I see it may take some time to "break in". I was wondering if that is actually true. The post I saw said 20 hrs. You guys know anything about this? I love my Oppo!!!

The only thing that really "breaks in" is the listener.
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post #23462 of 25196
10/18/12 at 2:31pm
Philnick,
One of the biggest issues I have in setting up and organizing folders is for classical music. Are folders listed by Composer? Conductor? Orchestra?

Composer makes some sense, but then there are many recordings with a single conductor and orchestra playing multiple composers. Then who get listed first dictates where it goes in the folder listing.

By Conducter? This would be more akin to Artist for non-classical music. Unfortunately, I'm not enough of a classical aficionado to know the work of Alexander Vedernikov from Stanislaw Skrowaczewski.

Or maybe even by soloist? I have some E. Power Biggs recordings where he is neither composer, conductor or orchestra, but I only really identify the recordings by his name. Then there's Yo Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone. Where the heck does that go?

I've just about given up which means I have no structure, and it can be a real challenge to find things. Don't know if you have many classical recordings, but if there's a good structure that works well, I'd like to hear what others are doing.
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post #23463 of 25196
10/18/12 at 2:41pm
Is it true the 103 doesn't pass DSD to my AVR? Will this cause any sonic problems?
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post #23464 of 25196
10/18/12 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by Geezer View Post

Is it true the 103 doesn't pass DSD to my AVR? Will this cause any sonic problems?

On the -103, HDMI1 doesn't and HDMI2 does.

DSD and LPCM should give the same results.

-Bill
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post #23465 of 25196
10/18/12 at 8:39pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post


At least one of the Roku boxes (I forget which) also allows Ethernet connection. Get that one if you are worried about Wifi reception in your rack. As for the Wifi versions, there's nothing magic about it. If other Wifi devices are working OK in your rack then the Roku will, too.
The advantage of the Roku is that it offers access to a large variety of Internet apps. At this point, I believe the only high-profile app they DON'T have is a YouTube app. The Roku boxes are not particularly high performance/quality, but they get the job done. So for example you could use the TuneIn app for Internet radio -- a service that is not available native on the OPPO players.
Or you could get the Dog Channel, which is video programming you leave running while you are at work, so that your Dog has something to watch.
I kid you not.
For the new OPPO 103/105 players, a new option is the Roku Streaming Stick which plugs into the Front HDMI Input of the player and delivers audio and video THROUGH the player -- controlled with the player's own remote control. That too is a Wifi-only Roku device (i.e., separate from the networking used in the OPPO player).
--Bob

 

The PQ problem is a very big issue for me as well as lack of useful or meaningful applications. Thanks for letting me know about these shortcomings. Too bad for the price was just right!

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post #23466 of 25196
10/18/12 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

Philnick,
One of the biggest issues I have in setting up and organizing folders is for classical music. Are folders listed by Composer? Conductor? Orchestra?
Composer makes some sense, but then there are many recordings with a single conductor and orchestra playing multiple composers. Then who get listed first dictates where it goes in the folder listing.
By Conducter? This would be more akin to Artist for non-classical music. Unfortunately, I'm not enough of a classical aficionado to know the work of Alexander Vedernikov from Stanislaw Skrowaczewski.
Or maybe even by soloist? I have some E. Power Biggs recordings where he is neither composer, conductor or orchestra, but I only really identify the recordings by his name. Then there's Yo Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone. Where the heck does that go?
I've just about given up which means I have no structure, and it can be a real challenge to find things. Don't know if you have many classical recordings, but if there's a good structure that works well, I'd like to hear what others are doing.

That's the beauty of the virtual folder approach, which lets an album be found in multiple folders, such as one named for the composer, one named for the conductor, and ones named for the soloist and orchestra or other ensemble, without requiring multiple copies of the audio files. I'm using the freeware Link Shell Extension (that's a clickable link to its home page).

LSE calls such a virtual folder a "Junction." Once you've installed LSE, you just right-click on a target folder and drag your cursor to the folder where you want to put a link. When you let go, a context-menu pops up to ask what you want to do. To create a virtual folder, you choose Drop > Junction.

A copy of the target appears in the destination folder, with a bit of chain across the bottom to signify that it's a link.

This is more powerful than it appears at first glance, since you can grab the root of a folder tree and create a vitual copy of that whole tree somewhere else.

It's not a static snapshot in time either, if you add a new subfolder to the source, it automatically appears at the destination as well. Any editing of the contents you do in either place affects the other, so don't delete things in the destination folder that you want to remain in the source - they won't!

What's more, the Junction folder can be renamed without breaking the link. Download sites and disk-ripping programs tend to use the exact name of the artist, first name first, which is not the best way to find things. Leave them that way, so that if you add something else by the same artist it will go into the same folder that's already dynamically-linked.

But rename the destination copy lastname first for better organization!

I discovered the danger of deleting a virtual folder - it takes out the contents of the original with it. So how do you get rid of one safely? Rename the original temporarily. That breaks the link, allowing you to safely delete the copy. Then you can put the original back to its normal name.

Don't despair - these are computers - you can organize things as many ways as you want - have fun!

-Phil
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post #23467 of 25196
10/18/12 at 9:47pm
After getting this whole library index set up, I indulged myself in buying three downloads from HDtracks, since I got a 10% discount code yesterday for taking a survey they sent me. I bought downloads of Kenny Burrell's Midnight Blue and my third copy of Bill Evans' Explorations - this time in hi-def - both jazz classics, and a hot-off-the-digital-press copy of Donald Fagen's latest, Sunken Condos, which just came out.

As described in my prior post, two of the three went into existing linked artist folders, so I only had to add one of the three artists to my index tree.

Went down to my theater to enjoy them through my Oppo (and test out my indexing project at the same time) and found that the Evans and Fagen albums wouldn't play. The blue triangle that signifies that a track is playing simply rapidly walked down the list of tracks all by itself after I clicked on the first track, and no sound was played. The record-changer screen never appeared, since the tracks didn't play.

Those downloads were not the usual 96-24 or 44-16, but were 88-24. It seems that the Oppo doesn't like to play that format directly. That was the only difference from the Kenny Burrell album, which I bought at 96-24, and played properly from the linked index folder. I'll try burning them to a DVD-A with Cirlinca HD Audio Solo Ultra and see if the Oppo can play them that way. (I was able to play 88-24 tracks through my Denon 2910 by putting them onto a DVD-A disk.)

Af first I wondered if the links were defective, but I had a previous copy of the Evans album bought from eMusic as a high bitrate MP3. That folder was inside the 88-24 folder and the MP3s played properly from the index folder.

Weird!

-Phil
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post #23468 of 25196
10/19/12 at 6:24am
Phil,
Thanks. I wasn't totally following your Junction folder system, but now I can understand it's value.

I have many 88kHz, 24-bit FLAC files that play perfectly on the Oppo. There must be something else that's preventing them from playing because that sample rate and bit depth combination should not be a problem for the Oppo. Do they play on a pc using a software player?
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post #23469 of 25196
10/19/12 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The only thing that really "breaks in" is the listener.
Thanks, I thought that was the case. As soon as I heard it play, I knew immdeiatly there was a difference in sound. Stuff I had been listening to on the 93, and I thought it sounded pretty good overall anyway. The way it lets the instruments come through with clarity, and warmth. The best way I can descibe is everything that is said about it is absolutly true. I balked at $400.00 but well worth the $250.00 it is now.
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post #23470 of 25196
10/19/12 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

After getting this whole library index set up, I indulged myself in buying three downloads from HDtracks, since I got a 10% discount code yesterday for taking a survey they sent me. I bought downloads of Kenny Burrell's Midnight Blue and my third copy of Bill Evans' Explorations - this time in hi-def - both jazz classics, and a hot-off-the-digital-press copy of Donald Fagen's latest, Sunken Condos, which just came out.
As described in my prior post, two of the three went into existing linked artist folders, so I only had to add one of the three artists to my index tree.
Went down to my theater to enjoy them through my Oppo (and test out my indexing project at the same time) and found that the Evans and Fagen albums wouldn't play. The blue triangle that signifies that a track is playing simply rapidly walked down the list of tracks all by itself after I clicked on the first track, and no sound was played. The record-changer screen never appeared, since the tracks didn't play.
Those downloads were not the usual 96-24 or 44-16, but were 88-24. It seems that the Oppo doesn't like to play that format directly. That was the only difference from the Kenny Burrell album, which I bought at 96-24, and played properly from the linked index folder. I'll try burning them to a DVD-A with Cirlinca HD Audio Solo Ultra and see if the Oppo can play them that way. (I was able to play 88-24 tracks through my Denon 2910 by putting them onto a DVD-A disk.)
Af first I wondered if the links were defective, but I had a previous copy of the Evans album bought from eMusic as a high bitrate MP3. That folder was inside the 88-24 folder and the MP3s played properly from the index folder.
Weird!
-Phil

Phil, I'm going to use this opportunity to ask tyou about HD Tracks, because I'm interested in hearing the new Fagen album in higher resolution (and beginning to consider moving to lossless digital cataloging of my music). Would you be willing to give me an HD Tracks 101 lesson? Like:
-Once an album is purchased how much control over the files to I have?

-How do I play them at home (I've got an Oppo DVD player as well, BDP-95)? How about portably?

-what connectibility do I need to listen?

-Can they be burned onto a regular CD?

Thank you!

Ben (Aja1)
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post #23471 of 25196
10/19/12 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

So how do you get rid of one safely? Rename the original temporarily. That breaks the link, allowing you to safely delete the copy.
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Junctions can be deleted by using the Delete commands from Explorer as usual, if Link Shell Extension is installed, because Link Shell Extension implements a so called CopyHook handler, which intercepts Explorers Delete commands, and thus fixes Explorers problems with junctions.
Link Shell Extension changes Delete commands from Explorer on Junctions to unlinking Junctions, and not deleting the content within a junction, which seems most logical.

But it seems you were having trouble with that, maybe more experimentation is in order. Regardless, another way to do it is if you are comfortable with the command prompt, change the the junction's parent folder and enter: rmdir junctionname
That will unlink a junction but will not hurt or do anything to a normal folder unless it is empty already.
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post #23472 of 25196
10/19/12 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by vanbit View Post

Hey there, I own a BDP 93 and been using it mostly to play back files from an external hard drive. Up to a point when my current hard drive is full to the brim and cannot bring myself to erase some of the files to make some space for new material. So i decided ti upgrade my installation and i was thinking about purchasing a NAS enabled cloudstation buffalo 2 * 2T hard drive device. This would raise few question before i go ahead and buy it:
- heard about the possible limitation of size for an external hard drive. Some speak about a 2T limit. Can anyone confirm ?

Yes, that's true. The -93 accepts only MBR partitioned discs and that limits you to 2TB each. The -103 supports GPT partitioning which allows larger sizes.
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- secondly The device configuration is two hard drive connected somehow in parallel. Will the oppo pick that up when connected through usb and show two drive volumes ?

Maybe. Multiple devices on a USB bus will mount on the player, but it could be that device is using some non-standard scheme.
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- for the NAS to be usable by oppo, the device itself need to support DLNA (DMP) which is not clearly specified anywhere in the specs.

That's a different topic. If you are attaching the device directly to the OPPO it does not need DLNA. If you are using DLNA then the device is not attached to the OPPO.

If you are using DLNA, then the 2TB limit no longer applies. The NAS manages the discs and the OPPO does not mount them or know about the partitioning.

NAS very commonly have DLNA. If it doesn't (or doesn't work well) you could run a DLNA server on a PC which accessed the NAS.

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So I turn to any of you who might have attempter to create a network (NAS) or those who might have tried to attach a huge mass storage device on USB port.
Please let me know which configuration and which material you used, possibly the buffalo cloudstation duo.

I agree it would be good to have reports on this device both as direct attachment and DLNA. If no one answers you here you might try the OPPO DLNA thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1215071/oppo-bdp-83-dlna-upnp-thread

There must be a support forum for the Buffalo somewhere where you could out about its disc management and DLNA specs.

-Bill
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post #23473 of 25196
10/19/12 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by vanbit View Post

- for the NAS to be usable by oppo, the device itself need to support DLNA (DMP) which is not clearly specified anywhere in the specs.
So I turn to any of you who might have attempter to create a network (NAS) or those who might have tried to attach a huge mass storage device on USB port.
Please let me know which configuration and which material you used, possibly the buffalo cloudstation duo.
Bye.

Not an endorsement, but I have a Iomega NAS on my network in RAID configuration. The unit has built in Twonky DLNA server software. My Oppo always sees it & I have never had a problem streaming movies, music or pics.
I am direct wired from Oppo to network so I can't comment on wireless performance but I doubt there would be a problem.
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post #23474 of 25196
10/19/12 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

Phil,
Thanks. I wasn't totally following your Junction folder system, but now I can understand it's value.
I have many 88kHz, 24-bit FLAC files that play perfectly on the Oppo. There must be something else that's preventing them from playing because that sample rate and bit depth combination should not be a problem for the Oppo. Do they play on a pc using a software player?

Yes, they play fine through Winamp on my XP-Pro main machine.

I made DVD-As of those albums to see if they'd play on the Oppo, which was how I played prior 88-24 downloads on my Denon.

I also made a simple data DVD containing both of them to see if the Oppo would play them that way.

Went down to the theater, fired up the Oppo and tried to play the Evans flacs over the network - this time, they played first try! Same for the Fagen flacs.

Only difference in the setup was that I've moved the index tree of folders to hang directly off the root of the drive instead of being inside the folder containing all of the source files, which I did to avoid getting multiple entries for the same files in Winamp when I tell it to add new music in the source folder to its library. But that hadn't kept anything else from playing, including the MP3 folder inside the flac folder!

Curioser and curioser!

Now I've got to figure out how to keep my server program, oShare, from being pre-empted by other processes on my machine, which sometimes freezes playback.

I'm going to try promoting its priority with CachemanXP to High - not quite Realtime, but well above normal.

-Phil
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post #23475 of 25196
10/19/12 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by Aja1 View Post

Phil, I'm going to use this opportunity to ask tyou about HD Tracks, because I'm interested in hearing the new Fagen album in higher resolution (and beginning to consider moving to lossless digital cataloging of my music). Would you be willing to give me an HD Tracks 101 lesson? Like:
-Once an album is purchased how much control over the files to I have?
-How do I play them at home (I've got an Oppo DVD player as well, BDP-95)? How about portably?
-what connectibility do I need to listen?
-Can they be burned onto a regular CD?
Thank you!
Ben (Aja1)

HDtracks' files have no digital rights management on them, so you can do whatever you want with them. They come in many flavors, from a 192KHz sampling rate with a 24 bit sample size ("192/24") down to standard Redbook CD at 44.1 KHz 16 bit ("44/16"). In-between formats are everything from 44/24 and 88/24 to 176/24. All are either stereo or mono, depending on what the source is. You can choose from a number of compressed formats ranging from mp3 to FLAC.

The Oppo Blu-ray players can play any of them, including over a LAN. If you want to make DVD-A disks, get Cirlinca HD Audio Solo Ultra, which can also make Blu-rays and CDs as well as DVD-Audio and standard DVD-Video disks. It's not cheap (about $60 or so) but very flexible, though not designed for beginners, though you do run it through a GUI - since there are so many configuration settings you can fiddle with. It can also do format conversions. Tip: you can use the Upscale dialog to Downscale - just pick a lower output resolution than the input resolution!

Stereo (or mono) 48/24 and 96/24 flacs (but not 44, 88, or 176!) can be burned directly to DVD-V disks that will play in any DVD player (though cheaper ones may play them at 44/16) by dropping a folder of the files directly onto the desktop icon created by a piece of freeware called Lplex, which will write an ISO that can then be burned to disk by another piece of freeware called ImgBurn. Lplex can be grabbed at SourceForge.net. ImgBurn has its own website, ImgBurn.com.

The only knock on HDtracks is that they don't put leading zeros on the filenames on albums of over 9 tracks, which can result in many players playing them 1, 10, 2, 3 - so also grab MP3Tag, which can bulk rename the files in a folder (if you highlight them all with Ctrl-A) to two-digit zero-padded numbers followed by the track name - both grabbed from the track tags. Do that so that the Oppo plays them in the right order, as it does not follow the track tags for that purpose. That will also insure that Lplex puts the tracks in the right order in the DVD-V ISO it writes if you drop the whole folder onto its icon. MP3Tag can also let you browse among various front cover graphics scraped from Amazon, to load into their track tags for the Oppo to display while playing them.

Despite its name, MP3 tag works on flacs and other audio filetypes as well, as long as they allow tagging.

To make CDs from files at higher resolution than standard CD, go to ConverterLite.com and grab that piece of freeware, which can downsample the high-rez tracks to make CD resolution versions - just make sure they're written to a different folder than the originals! You can then use Winamp to burn them to a normal CD for your car.

Have fun!

Don't overlook HDtrack's competitor, iTrax.com, which sells downloads of 5.1 96/24 flacs from its parent site, AIX records, which does its own original recording sessions and has worked its way up to doing 3D Blu-rays of music performances with hi-rez surround sound. iTrax sells downloads of the music from those disks in your choice of numerous formats - and mixing perspective, from stereo to 5.1 audience perspective (using the surrounds for ambience) to "stage perspective" which puts the musicians all around you - my favorite. Those play on the Oppo over the network as well. For a disk you can use Cirlinca to make multichannel DVD-A or Blu-ray disks - and it can also make a standard CD from them.

Now that I can play the higher resolution and multichannel flacs over the network with the Oppo, CDs tend to be the only disks tend to make from them, so I can play them in my car!

-Phil
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post #23476 of 25196
10/19/12 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

HDtracks' files have no digital rights management on them, so you can do whatever you want with them. They come in many flavors, from a 192KHz sampling rate with a 24 bit sample size ("192/24") down to standard Redbook CD at 44.1 KHz 16 bit ("44/16"). In-between formats are everything from 44/24 and 88/24 to 176/24. All are either stereo or mono, depending on what the source is. You can choose from a number of compressed formats ranging from mp3 to FLAC.
The Oppo Blu-ray players can play any of them, including over a LAN. If you want to make DVD-A disks, get Cirlinca HD Audio Solo Ultra, which can also make Blu-rays and CDs as well as DVD-Audio and standard DVD-Video disks. It's not cheap (about $60 or so) but very flexible, though not designed for beginners, though you do run it through a GUI - since there are so many configuration settings you can fiddle with. It can also do format conversions. Tip: you can use the Upscale dialog to Downscale - just pick a lower output resolution than the input resolution!
Stereo (or mono) 48/24 and 96/24 flacs (but not 44, 88, or 176!) can be burned directly to DVD-V disks that will play in any DVD player (though cheaper ones may play them at 44/16) by dropping a folder of the files directly onto the desktop icon created by a piece of freeware called Lplex, which will write an ISO that can then be burned to disk by another piece of freeware called ImgBurn. Lplex can be grabbed at SourceForge.net. ImgBurn has its own website, ImgBurn.com.
The only knock on HDtracks is that they don't put leading zeros on the filenames on albums of over 9 tracks, which can result in many players playing them 1, 10, 2, 3 - so also grab MP3Tag, which can bulk rename the files in a folder (if you highlight them all with Ctrl-A) to two-digit zero-padded numbers followed by the track name - both grabbed from the track tags. Do that so that the Oppo plays them in the right order, as it does not follow the track tags for that purpose. That will also insure that Lplex puts the tracks in the right order in the DVD-V ISO it writes if you drop the whole folder onto its icon. MP3Tag can also let you browse among various front cover graphics scraped from Amazon, to load into their track tags for the Oppo to display while playing them.
Despite its name, MP3 tag works on flacs and other audio filetypes as well, as long as they allow tagging.
To make CDs from files at higher resolution than standard CD, go to ConverterLite.com and grab that piece of freeware, which can downsample the high-rez tracks to make CD resolution versions - just make sure they're written to a different folder than the originals! You can then use Winamp to burn them to a normal CD for your car.
Have fun!
Don't overlook HDtrack's competitor, iTrax.com, which sells downloads of 5.1 96/24 flacs from its parent site, AIX records, which does its own original recording sessions and has worked its way up to doing 3D Blu-rays of music performances with hi-rez surround sound. iTrax sells downloads of the music from those disks in your choice of numerous formats - and mixing perspective, from stereo to 5.1 audience perspective (using the surrounds for ambience) to "stage perspective" which puts the musicians all around you - my favorite. Those play on the Oppo over the network as well. For a disk you can use Cirlinca to make multichannel DVD-A or Blu-ray disks - and it can also make a standard CD from them.
Now that I can play the higher resolution and multichannel flacs over the network with the Oppo, CDs tend to be the only disks tend to make from them, so I can play them in my car!
-Phil

Wow, thanks so much for typing that out. I'm going to print it and poke around this weekend (so I may have follow-up questions!). Thanks again.
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post #23477 of 25196
10/19/12 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Aja1 View Post

Wow, thanks so much for typing that out. I'm going to print it and poke around this weekend (so I may have follow-up questions!). Thanks again.

PS One question I overlooked addressing was the connectivity one. If your Oppo is on your local area network along with the computer that hosts the files, you'll need a "server" program to "publish" their folders on the network. DLNA servers are a subset of UPNP servers with more restricted capabilities in terms of what kinds of files they'll work with. The Oppo works with either kind of server.

Many folks here use a server called Twonky, which is very capable, including doing format conversion on the fly to make a flle playable on a client that can't play its native format.

I've never played with it - though I may start to if it will convert my Canon cameras' SOWT Quicktime files, which the Oppo finds indigestible. Anyone here know if it can do that for me? I've been doing overnight conversions to mp4 AVIs, which is not habit-forming.

What I've been using for music is the flea-weight oShare, which I got at SourceForge.net. It's freeware that does no format conversion, but correspondingly uses very little machine resources. It can be configured as a DLNA server, if you must, but comes set as a UPNP server.

Once you install it and add the folder with your music index to its list of published folders, you can then, at the Oppo, press the Home button on the remote to get to the browser screen, choose My Network, and then choose the oShare server. I browse by folder, not by artist tag, so that my index structure is what I see.

Configuration of oShare after the initial run, and editing of the folder list, is done by editing the .INI file in its program folder - use a plain text editor, like Notepad - if you use a word processor it will write codes into the file that will make it undecipherable by oShare.

-Phil
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post #23478 of 25196
10/19/12 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

PS One question I overlooked addressing was the connectivity one. If your Oppo is on your local area network along with the computer that hosts the files, you'll need a "server" program to "publish" their folders on the network. DLNA servers are a subset of UPNP servers with more restricted capabilities in terms of what kinds of files they'll work with. The Oppo works with either kind of server.
Many folks here use a server called Twonky, which is very capable, including doing format conversion on the fly to make a flle playable on a client that can't play its native format.
I've never played with it - though I may start to if it will convert my Canon cameras' SOWT Quicktime files, which the Oppo finds indigestible. Anyone here know if it can do that for me? I've been doing overnight conversions to mp4 AVIs, which is not habit-forming.
What I've been using for music is the flea-weight oShare, which I got at SourceForge.net. It's freeware that does no format conversion, but correspondingly uses very little machine resources. It can be configured as a DLNA server, if you must, but comes set as a UPNP server.
Once you install it and add the folder with your music index to its list of published folders, you can then, at the Oppo, press the Home button on the remote to get to the browser screen, choose My Network, and then choose the oShare server. I browse by folder, not by artist tag, so that my index structure is what I see.
Configuration of oShare after the initial run, and editing of the folder list, is done by editing the .INI file in its program folder - use a plain text editor, like Notepad - if you use a word processor it will write codes into the file that will make it undecipherable by oShare.
-Phil

Where I store the music will have to be addressed, as the hard drive that I have wouldn't be big enough for a full library. But your suggestion sounds good, this will be the next step for me.
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post #23479 of 25196
10/19/12 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by Aja1 View Post

Where I store the music will have to be addressed, as the hard drive that I have wouldn't be big enough for a full library. But your suggestion sounds good, this will be the next step for me.

I use an external drive connected via Firewire 800, for low latency, something I was clued into by the publisher of the Ivory Piano, a software piano for both Windows and Mac that uses your electronic keyboard - connected by Midi over USB - as a controller, telling the program which keys you've struck, how hard, when you let go, and the status of your damper pedal - to select from a library of streaming samples recorded of real pianos - Steinway, Yamaha, Bosendorfer, etc. - and play them via a good soundcard into an amp.

They recommend a high-speed (at least 7200 RPM) drive to store the samples, connected via Firewire, to get the best performance. I'm using such a drive to store my music. It's a terabyte LaCie, but I may move to a 2TB unit as my new camera writes much larger RAW files (not to mention what they get pumped up to by Photoshop!).

I'm struggling with getting streaming music working reliably. Most of the time it works fine, but occasionally - like today and a day last week - it just stops in the middle of a song and I have to backspace a bit and restart. That is, of course, unacceptable. I may end up devoting my current XP PC solely to streaming, as I'll have to jump to a new Win 7 machine before Win 8 pushes it off the market!

-Phil
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10/19/12 at 3:06pm
Twonky always works very well for me without any issues, but MediaMonkey and Foobar are also great as audio-only media servers. Of course, there are many other DLNA servers out there, some free and some that cost in the range of $25-$30.

It's hard to beat the capabilities and versatility of Foobar for managing an audio collection, create playlists, and to stream via it's UPnP plugin. Since it's free, there's no investment except the small amount of time to set it up.
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post #23481 of 25196
10/19/12 at 3:55pm
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Ha, well this is an Oppo thread so the recommendation is the BDP-103 for playing BDMV folders via SMB.

Sorry for being noobish... What does SMB stand for ? And I suppose BDP-93 is unable to play BDMV folders via SMB ?

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post #23482 of 25196
10/19/12 at 3:58pm
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Sorry for being noobish... What does SMB stand for ? And I suppose BDP-93 is unable to play BDMV folders via SMB ?
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SMB System Message Block a network transfer protocol used by Windows and some other systems.
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post #23483 of 25196
10/19/12 at 5:02pm
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I'm struggling with getting streaming music working reliably. Most of the time it works fine, but occasionally - like today and a day last week - it just stops in the middle of a song and I have to backspace a bit and restart. That is, of course, unacceptable. I may end up devoting my current XP PC solely to streaming, as I'll have to jump to a new Win 7 machine before Win 8 pushes it off the market!
-Phil

Tried rebooting into a minimal configuration running very little else and promoting oShare to Realtime priority (the highest) - the problem still occurred. I'm beginning to wonder if the problem is with too little traffic over my MoCA network, leading it to go to sleep - so I'm experimenting with having my Roku stream a movie, or an internet radio station, to keep the connection alive!

Anyone here dealt with a similar problem - their streaming music to the Oppo just freezing from time to time?

-Phil
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post #23484 of 25196
10/19/12 at 6:20pm
Wondering if anyone else is having this issue. When I turn on my 93 it also turns on my Onkyo PRSC5508. I first thought it was via the infra red. Today, I manually turned the 93 on by the face. Within a couple of seconds, the Onkyo turns on. Do I have a setting that needs to be turned off or something? I didn't have any issues with any of the other Panasonic blu ray players I have had.
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post #23485 of 25196
10/19/12 at 6:43pm
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Wondering if anyone else is having this issue. When I turn on my 93 it also turns on my Onkyo PRSC5508. I first thought it was via the infra red. Today, I manually turned the 93 on by the face. Within a couple of seconds, the Onkyo turns on. Do I have a setting that needs to be turned off or something? I didn't have any issues with any of the other Panasonic blu ray players I have had.

This is likely due to HDMI CEC control. HDMI CEC is a protocol that lets one device control another device over the HDMI cable between them.

The OPPO has a setting in Setup > Device Setup for disabling HDMI CEC. That will keep the Onkyo from controlling the OPPO. You also may need to adjust a similar setting in the Onkyo to keep it from turning on when it sees the OPPO turn on. Try just turning off the OPPO setting first.
--Bob
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post #23486 of 25196
10/19/12 at 7:55pm
Correction to OP: the 10/17 firmware is official, not beta.
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post #23487 of 25196
10/19/12 at 8:01pm
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Ha, well this is an Oppo thread so the recommendation is the BDP-103 for playing BDMV folders via SMB.

Sorry for being noobish... What does SMB stand for ? And I suppose BDP-93 is unable to play BDMV folders via SMB ?

Thanks in advance smile.gif

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block

Correct: the -93 does not support SMB. It will play BDMV folders on locally attached folders.

-Bill
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post #23488 of 25196
10/19/12 at 8:54pm
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Where I store the music will have to be addressed, as the hard drive that I have wouldn't be big enough for a full library. But your suggestion sounds good, this will be the next step for me.

I use an external drive connected via Firewire 800, for low latency, something I was clued into by the publisher of the Ivory Piano, a software piano for both Windows and Mac that uses your electronic keyboard - connected by Midi over USB - as a controller, telling the program which keys you've struck, how hard, when you let go, and the status of your damper pedal - to select from a library of streaming samples recorded of real pianos - Steinway, Yamaha, Bosendorfer, etc. - and play them via a good soundcard into an amp.

They recommend a high-speed (at least 7200 RPM) drive to store the samples, connected via Firewire, to get the best performance. I'm using such a drive to store my music. It's a terabyte LaCie, but I may move to a 2TB unit as my new camera writes much larger RAW files (not to mention what they get pumped up to by Photoshop!).

I'm struggling with getting streaming music working reliably. Most of the time it works fine, but occasionally - like today and a day last week - it just stops in the middle of a song and I have to backspace a bit and restart. That is, of course, unacceptable. I may end up devoting my current XP PC solely to streaming, as I'll have to jump to a new Win 7 machine before Win 8 pushes it off the market!

-Phil
Just thought I'd mention, low latency, quick access times and decent 2-way throughput are necessary for a program like Ivory Piano that you described. It's needed because it's taking your MIDI input via the keyboard and then accessing the file database to play the correct sound + requiring some processing for weight, duration etc. It NEEDS to be quick so you don't experience intolerable lag. In those cases, a SSD would be optimal (although multiple times the price of a regular drive), connected via Firewire, which is great for 2-way data transfer.

For just playing music and movies off a hard drive though, USB 2.0 is sufficient. I would advise using a 7200rpm drive for movies though, as some folks have experienced occasional glitches with movie playback off 5400rpm drives with mkv files IIRC. I still have the ISO capable firmware, which hasn't had reports of glitches regardless of the spin speed of the drive, but I still use only 7200rpm drives anyway. Never had a problem with any of the 6 drives I've filled so far.


Max
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10/19/12 at 9:16pm
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Correction to OP: the 10/17 firmware is official, not beta.

NEUROMANCER: He's talking about the Red "date" line at the top of the first post. It should be shown on that line as an OFFICIAL release.
--Bob
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10/20/12 at 1:43am
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Does anyone know what to look for when the Oppo doesn't play a MKV file?
It's a 4.7GB file with 720p video AC3 sound (Blu-ray rip, nothing unusual at first sight). It plays in VLC and with my Asus O!Play, but the Oppo loads the file (25%...50%...Playback symbol) then is stuck at a blank screen, the time indicator on the player front remaining at 00:00. No error message. All that can be done is hitting stop.
I'm familiar with mkvmerge (latest version), tried removing header compression from the file (which creates problems with some other players), but that doesn't help.
Is there something else which causes the Oppo problems? I have the latest beta firmware.
Thanks

I finally found a MKV file characteristic that is responsible for the Oppo's playback problem: the presence of a DTS mono audio track. After removing the track (just for testing) from two such Blu-ray rips, the files plays fine.
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