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post #23641 of 25277
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Originally Posted by Redbeemer View Post

Thanks for the information, Neuro, but not exactly what I was hoping to hear. I checked on both Google Play and Amazon Android last night and neither showed the Oppo app for my Galaxy Tab, so looks like I will just stand on the sidelines and wish for this to come to other Android devices.eek.gif

The recent update to the Media Remote app now makes it available for my Nexus 7 tablet. Might want to check again.
post #23642 of 25277
So, I probably missed it somewhere in here, but what are you guys using to convert .iso files to .mkv so we can play them on the 93?
post #23643 of 25277
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post

So, I probably missed it somewhere in here, but what are you guys using to convert .iso files to .mkv so we can play them on the 93?

See the FAQ: What are the alternatives to .iso files?

-Bill
post #23644 of 25277
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The apps only currently work for devices which can make and receive phone calls. This is a temporary limitation and OPPO will allow for tablet only devices to work with the APKs in the future.
I just got updates to both the Remote and Media apps, the update notes state that they now support tablets without telephony functions.
post #23645 of 25277
With the Media App, I notice that using DLNA catagories with "/" in the name (such as Artist/Album) don't display properly (displays as Album"). Is anyone else seeing this?
post #23646 of 25277
Hello,

Is it possible to check the firmware by the LCD display on the Oppo only? I have an Oppo 93 and it isn't currently hooked to a TV. Is it possible to check the FW without having an external display?

Thanks
post #23647 of 25277
I have the AVS HD 709 HDMV extracted into a BDMV folder (inside an AVCHD folder). If I try to browse the AVCHD folder with the physical remote, Oppo plays the HDMV immediately. But when I do the same thing using the media app, Oppo browses it like just another regular folder, i.e. it goes into the AVCHD folder, then into BDMV where it lists all the BDMV content folders (AUXDATA, BACKUP, etc).

Does this mean the Media Remote app cannot play AVCHD folders on usb disks? I haven't ripped any of my Blu-ray content, but still hope that this is a bug Oppo can fix, and not a technical limitation that cannot be overcome.
post #23648 of 25277
Hello forumers,

I own an external DAC (Audiolab M-DAC) that has a bitperfect test: playback a special audio file in 16bit/44.1kHz WAV format through the DAC and it can tell you if the digital audio data has been altered in anyway from the playback source.

I hooked up the OPPO-93 optical out to the DAC, and the OPPO-93 passes the bitperfect tests if I play the test file (in both FLAC and WAV formats) from DLNA or DVD-RW Data Disc.

However, if I burn the 16/44.1 WAV files to a CD-RW as an audio CD and play the CD in the OPPO-93, the bitperfect test will briefly show "passing test" and then after less than a second, show "failed test", suggesting that the digital data transmitted to the DAC by OPPO93 is not exactly the same (i.e. not bitperfect) as the audio file.

Any suggestions why the audio CD path will fail the test? Is it because I am using a CD-RW instead of a CD-R? Anyone else has an OPPO-93 hooked up to an M-DAC or other external DACs with bitperfect tests and tried such tests from the audio CD path?

Leon
post #23649 of 25277
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Originally Posted by travelfotografer View Post

Hello forumers,

I own an external DAC (Audiolab M-DAC) that has a bitperfect test: playback a special audio file in 16bit/44.1kHz WAV format through the DAC and it can tell you if the digital audio data has been altered in anyway from the playback source.

I hooked up the OPPO-93 optical out to the DAC, and the OPPO-93 passes the bitperfect tests if I play the test file (in both FLAC and WAV formats) from DLNA or DVD-RW Data Disc.

However, if I burn the 16/44.1 WAV files to a CD-RW as an audio CD and play the CD in the OPPO-93, the bitperfect test will briefly show "passing test" and then after less than a second, show "failed test", suggesting that the digital data transmitted to the DAC by OPPO93 is not exactly the same (i.e. not bitperfect) as the audio file.

Any suggestions why the audio CD path will fail the test? Is it because I am using a CD-RW instead of a CD-R? Anyone else has an OPPO-93 hooked up to an M-DAC or other external DACs with bitperfect tests and tried such tests from the audio CD path?

Leon

Welcome to AVSForum.

I don't recall anyone running this test before.

Could HDCD decoding be involved? I forget if this is detected in WAV files or not.

-Bill
post #23650 of 25277
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Originally Posted by jeannie72 View Post

I did some quick tests and didn't have any success. I created playlists in pls, m3u and asx formats, containing video and audio files (several formats) in each. Interestingly, the m3u playlist showed up as an mp3 file, and the asx showed up on the oppo as an asf file. The asx playlists gave an "unsupported file format!" error. The m3u playlist titles just blinked yellow (acknowledged I selected them) and did nothing. The pls playlist wasn't even visible to select.
I should mention that when browsing the server with oppo to access the playlist files, I chose the "all media" folder rather than the "video" or "audio" folders that are automatically generated (by either oppo or the server I'm using, I don't know which). I'm new to upnp/dlna so I don't even know if the aforementioned folders are standard for every server, or if different programs might provide different results? For the record I was using Oshare in these tests.
It sounds like audio-only playlists using streams via Foobar might be an improvement over oppo's playlist feature. Yes, oppo's playlist function is very limited, I've gotten used to playlists on my computer that mix video and audio files, and unless there is some sort of revelation I'll probably just stick to that for playback (maybe using Foobar) instead of oppo. But please let me know if you discover anything!
Re: netflix, just trying to find out if there's a way to process it through the oppo using upnp since there are apparently problems using oppo's built-in netflix. Otherwise I guess I have to pay for a dedicated netflix device.

I did some more testing by creating mixed audio and video playlists using MediaMonkey and streaming these to the Oppo using the MediaMonkey DLNA server. I found that playlists consisting of only video files (different formats) stream ok, and playlists consisting of only audio files stream ok, but when audio and video files are mixed in the playlist, the Oppo can't switch between a video file and an audio file, or vice versa. The playlists that are generated using MediaMonkey are not specific to audio or video. The Oppo will start with whatever file is first in the playlist (audio or video) and continue playing files, until it reaches the opposite file type (audio or video), and then stop. These mixed playlists play fine on the pc, so somehow it's the Oppo that can't seem to make the switch, or maybe something within the DLNA spec that prevents it.
post #23651 of 25277
I have the player and enjoy it but when I push You Tube I get a screen that says You Tube and it never does anything...
post #23652 of 25277
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Originally Posted by JVCX90RJEL View Post

I have the player and enjoy it but when I push You Tube I get a screen that says You Tube and it never does anything...

Check whether your firmware is up to date: Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information. Compare against the firmware versions on OPPO's Support page for the player.

The YouTube app is a bit slow to start up but it shouldn't just sit there forever.
--Bob
post #23653 of 25277
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Originally Posted by Colin Stanley View Post

Does anyone have a setup using a -93 with a Denon 3313?
I'm having problems getting the audio to work reliably. 70% of the time on power up there is no sound from the BDP-93 over HDMI connection (either PCM or Bitstream). The power up sequence is TV, AVR, then BDP. Switching inputs on the AVR between CD and Bluray a couple of times will often fix the problem, and the audio will remain OK, until the inputs are switched to another source and back again to Bluray. When the audio will often fail again. Its probably a handshake issue. My connection is: BDP-93 (HDMI1) -> Denon 3313CI (HDMI3) -> SNAPAV HDMI Extender -> Sharp Aquos LC80LE844U. Other devices connected work OK (Netgear Neo, Cable box, Roku). Also the HDMI2 output of the -93 seems to work, which is my current solution, but I'd like to get HDMI1 to work as I'm told its better quality.
Any one else have this frustration. I called Oppo, but they had not heard of any issues with the 3313. They suggest connecting HDMI1 directly to the TV, but unfortunately my TV is remote and I need the extender, and switch capabilities of the AVR.

Interesting - I have EXACTLY the same behavior / problem with the BDP-93, but I have a different AVR: Yamaha RX-A3000. I use the same power up sequence. I also suspect hand-shake issues. I emailed Oppo about this and the reply suggested it was Yamaha's fault and to update the firmware (all the firmware are current - for the Yamaha and the Oppo). Since the common denominator between your and my experience is the Oppo 93, I hope Oppo will take a look at this recurring problem and see if there's some fix on their side.

I experience the same work-arounds work for me that you described (switching from an HDMI input to another non-HDMI input on the AVR, then back again to the AVR's HDMI input for the Oppo). Another work-around that works for me is powering down the AVR then restarting while the Oppo remains on.

I note the audio fails most often when playing a blu-ray, when the Oppo switches from one internal title to another (like from previews of coming attractions to the menu, or from the menu to the main feature).

Interestingly, I also own the BDP-95 but I have never experienced this problem with the BDP-95.

Please let me know if you get an informative reply in this thread, or from Oppo.
post #23654 of 25277
Adding to the above regarding the Oppo 93 + AVR sound failure: On occasion, both the audio + video fails. Same work-arounds solve it, regardless if audio alone or audio+video. Seems an HDMI 1 issue for me too.
post #23655 of 25277
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

The recent update to the Media Remote app now makes it available for my Nexus 7 tablet. Might want to check again.
Both Apps working on Nexus. The graphics appear to be the same as for a phone, so the small remote is in the centre of the larger tablet screen, the larger remote still needs to be scrolled, and the icons on the media control are very small. Hopefully this will change in time, there must be a vast array of screen sizes to cater for with Android.
post #23656 of 25277
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Based on your description, it sounds like you may have a defective remote. When you say "the batteries in the remote are not the problem" can I assume that you tried a fresh set of batteries? I'd suggest contacting Oppo to see if there's anything obvious I'm not thinking of and get a replacement remote if needed (if it isn't covered by warranty, a replacement remote won't cost much).
Well, I've decided it must be a "leaky capacitor" in the remote, discharging on its own over a period of non-use. The pushing of the buttons coaxes it to recharge so that after 30-seconds to a minute it's back up where the remote is functioning normally again.

The BDP-93 itself was only purchased 2 months ago and is under a 1-year warranty from Oppo. I've emailed them explaining the symptom and asking for a replacement under warranty.

In the meantime I've just swapped remotes with the identical one used for my original BDP-83 in the other room (and which gets essentially zero use now), so that I can have the "working remote" where I really need it regularly.


Interestingly, as if in sympathy, a number of (but not all) buttons on the remote for my Sony 34XBR960 HDTV remote seem to have died! Haven't used those buttons (or even the remote) for a long time (as I use a "universal remote" instead) so I didn't notice it until today when I happened to want to do something on the TV that required its MENU button... which had become nonfunctional, along with a number of others (e.g. OSD and DISPLAY). Also the "joystick" round ball had likewise become strangely non-functional, with the push-down (i.e. OK/select action function) still working along with the UP and RIGHT navigation motions still working. But the DOWN and LEFT navigations motions no longer worked.

The TV itself still responds to the problematic IR codes, which I confirmed by using a second Sony remote I have (for a Bravia in another room) that shares the same standard Sony IR codes for common buttons (e.g. MENU, and discrete arrow navigation keys instead of a joystick round ball, etc.). So it's clearly the old Sony remote which has died.

Fortunately, Sony still sells that remote and has it in stock on their web site. I've now ordered a replacement for this remote.


Amusing, how these things happen like this sometimes... in "swarms".
post #23657 of 25277
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

Well, I've decided it must be a "leaky capacitor" in the remote, discharging on its own over a period of non-use. The pushing of the buttons coaxes it to recharge so that after 30-seconds to a minute it's back up where the remote is functioning normally again.
The BDP-93 itself was only purchased 2 months ago and is under a 1-year warranty from Oppo. I've emailed them explaining the symptom and asking for a replacement under warranty.
In the meantime I've just swapped remotes with the identical one used for my original BDP-83 in the other room (and which gets essentially zero use now), so that I can have the "working remote" where I really need it regularly.
Interestingly, as if in sympathy, a number of (but not all) buttons on the remote for my Sony 34XBR960 HDTV remote seem to have died! Haven't used those buttons (or even the remote) for a long time (as I use a "universal remote" instead) so I didn't notice it until today when I happened to want to do something on the TV that required its MENU button... which had become nonfunctional, along with a number of others (e.g. OSD and DISPLAY). Also the "joystick" round ball had likewise become strangely non-functional, with the push-down (i.e. OK/select action function) still working along with the UP and RIGHT navigation motions still working. But the DOWN and LEFT navigations motions no longer worked.
The TV itself still responds to the problematic IR codes, which I confirmed by using a second Sony remote I have (for a Bravia in another room) that shares the same standard Sony IR codes for common buttons (e.g. MENU, and discrete arrow navigation keys instead of a joystick round ball, etc.). So it's clearly the old Sony remote which has died.
Fortunately, Sony still sells that remote and has it in stock on their web site. I've now ordered a replacement for this remote.
Amusing, how these things happen like this sometimes... in "swarms".
Note to self - don't allow DSperber anywhere near my remotes. biggrin.gif
post #23658 of 25277
^ But it was the VERY BEST butter!
--Bob
post #23659 of 25277
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

Well, I've decided it must be a "leaky capacitor" in the remote, discharging on its own over a period of non-use. The pushing of the buttons coaxes it to recharge so that after 30-seconds to a minute it's back up where the remote is functioning normally again.
The BDP-93 itself was only purchased 2 months ago and is under a 1-year warranty from Oppo. I've emailed them explaining the symptom and asking for a replacement under warranty.
In the meantime I've just swapped remotes with the identical one used for my original BDP-83 in the other room (and which gets essentially zero use now), so that I can have the "working remote" where I really need it regularly.
Interestingly, as if in sympathy, a number of (but not all) buttons on the remote for my Sony 34XBR960 HDTV remote seem to have died! Haven't used those buttons (or even the remote) for a long time (as I use a "universal remote" instead) so I didn't notice it until today when I happened to want to do something on the TV that required its MENU button... which had become nonfunctional, along with a number of others (e.g. OSD and DISPLAY). Also the "joystick" round ball had likewise become strangely non-functional, with the push-down (i.e. OK/select action function) still working along with the UP and RIGHT navigation motions still working. But the DOWN and LEFT navigations motions no longer worked.
The TV itself still responds to the problematic IR codes, which I confirmed by using a second Sony remote I have (for a Bravia in another room) that shares the same standard Sony IR codes for common buttons (e.g. MENU, and discrete arrow navigation keys instead of a joystick round ball, etc.). So it's clearly the old Sony remote which has died.
Fortunately, Sony still sells that remote and has it in stock on their web site. I've now ordered a replacement for this remote.
Amusing, how these things happen like this sometimes... in "swarms".

DSperber, FWIW, regarding your Sony remote malfunction, I had something similar happen to me a couple of years ago with my old Sony AVR remote, when I started noticing some buttons were unresponsive (interestingly enough they turned out to be the most used buttons). I was ready to throw it in the trash can when my brother suggested I opened it up and cleaned it with a cotton swab and some alcohol, as finger oil tends to seep in and accumulate underneath the rubber layer that forms the buttons, preventing them for making proper contact with the board inside. I then proceeded to do that and it worked like magic.

Abel Calvo
post #23660 of 25277
Simple question here:

Does the Oppo BDP-93 supports 3D MKV through streaming or on a local hardrive?

I am trying to stream the Avengers 3D and I only get sound, the picture is black.
thanks for any inputs.
post #23661 of 25277
Thread Starter 
What format is the video? The player can output side-by-side and top-bottom 3D, but your display will need to convert this to frame packed 3D.

It is possible that the video format is out of resolution (higher than 1920x1080) or in a format which the player does not support.
post #23662 of 25277
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Note to self - don't allow DSperber anywhere near my remotes. biggrin.gif
And I usually have a very good rapport with them!

Anyway, Sunday night (yes, on a Sunday night!) shortly after sending my email to Oppo about the "sleeping remote" problem, I received a reply from someone in Support (working on a Sunday night!) who suggested I first go through the following "self-repair" steps before concluding that the remote was defective and in need of replacement:

  • 1. Press and hold the POWER button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
  • 2. Press and hold the SOURCE button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
  • 3. Repeat until all the buttons on the remote control have been pressed and held, individually, for 3 seconds each.
  • 4. Replace the batteries with new ones (note: we do not recommend using Lithium batteries with the OPPO Remote).
  • 5. Rotate the batteries in their compartment to ensure proper contact with the metal leads.

I performed the above finger magic on all buttons (holding them down for 5 seconds each, just to be sure!) And, sure enough, THE REMOTE NOW SEEMS TO BE WORKING PERFECTLY!

Maybe it really just needed a bit of exercise, maybe one of its buttons was "stuck" or marginal or never-used, maybe it was the batteries, or who knows what. But for whatever explanation this "shaking out the cobwebs" recipe does indeed seem to have done the trick. The remote has not gone back into "sleep" state since Sunday, and I've left it unused for long periods so it should have done that unless it is now "fixed".

So, for now, the remote seems to be working perfectly. Fingers crossed. Only time will tell.
post #23663 of 25277
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

What format is the video? The player can output side-by-side and top-bottom 3D, but your display will need to convert this to frame packed 3D.
It is possible that the video format is out of resolution (higher than 1920x1080) or in a format which the player does not support.

How do I know the format???

It's a Blu-Ray rip of the Avengers 3D using makemkv which supports 3D.

Here is the info about the video (Media Info):

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Stereo High@L4.1 / High@L4.1
MultiView_Count : 2
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 31.1 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.625
Stream size : 31.0 GiB (76%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No


I think the video is fine, I don't see any option in the Oppo the change the 3D output except ON, OFF, FORCED.

thank you.
post #23664 of 25277
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Originally Posted by Tapidlittle View Post

How do I know the format???
It's a Blu-Ray rip of the Avengers 3D using makemkv which supports 3D.

Shouldn't you know what the format is? Didn't you rip it from a Blu-ray that you purchased?
post #23665 of 25277
Quick question... I just purchased the external (USB Method) region free mod for my 93 and with using this method I'll be sacraficing my USB on the back that I currently use for the Wifi adapter and since I don't have but 2 Region B discs and there doesn't really seem to be a need to have the mod installed perminately so my plan is to remove it once I'm done viewing what I need to so I wanted to see if this will cause any kind of issue with the player?
post #23666 of 25277
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

Quick question... I just purchased the external (USB Method) region free mod for my 93 and with using this method I'll be sacraficing my USB on the back that I currently use for the Wifi adapter and since I don't have but 2 Region B discs and there doesn't really seem to be a need to have the mod installed perminately so my plan is to remove it once I'm done viewing what I need to so I wanted to see if this will cause any kind of issue with the player?

That shouldn't cause any issues.

AFAIK, that mod only gets power from the USB port, and actually connects via the serial port, correct?

If so, you can simply put a powered USB hub behind the player and connect everything to that. Or just get a USB power dongle and connect the mod to that for power.
post #23667 of 25277
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

That shouldn't cause any issues.
AFAIK, that mod only gets power from the USB port, and actually connects via the serial port, correct?
If so, you can simply put a powered USB hub behind the player and connect everything to that. Or just get a USB power dongle and connect the mod to that for power.

It is the mod you mention. A small hub would probably be the easiest aplication (I see a Belkin one for 5.98) just so I don't have to mess with any additonal power.
post #23668 of 25277
Hello Gents, currently I have denon AVR 991. I wonder if Denon's DAC (using oppo 93 as transport) or Oppo 93' DAC is better for music. Thanks.
post #23669 of 25277
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

It is the mod you mention. A small hub would probably be the easiest aplication (I see a Belkin one for 5.98) just so I don't have to mess with any additonal power.

Without power to the USB hub, both devices will be sharing the power available on that USB port. Not recommended but it may well work out fine. Beware of super-cheap USB hubs, often they are USB1 instead of USB2.
post #23670 of 25277
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

Quick question... I just purchased the external (USB Method) region free mod for my 93 and with using this method I'll be sacraficing my USB on the back that I currently use for the Wifi adapter and since I don't have but 2 Region B discs and there doesn't really seem to be a need to have the mod installed perminately so my plan is to remove it once I'm done viewing what I need to so I wanted to see if this will cause any kind of issue with the player?

I do exactly that without any problems. I had a small unpowered Belkin hub which I now use for the multi-region mod and the Oppo wi-fi adapter via the rear usb port. I use the front USB port or the eSata port when I attach an external hard drive. I have a powered USB hub to use if needed for multiple devices via the front port.
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