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post #23851 of 25267
11/30/12 at 12:36pm
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Hmmm, interesting. Definitely possible. Seems like it would be so simple to update to the newer Netflix App on the last upgrade ? Or hopefully on the next one ?

Unfortunately the Netflix app won't be updated for the 93/95. The Oppo circuitry is missing some security feature(s) that Netflix insists on for the newer, better apps. Netflix will not provide a better app for the 93/95 models and Netflix determines what products get what apps. Oppo has said there is nothing than can do about this because it would involve hardware changes. The 103/105 have the features and thus support the better Netflix app.

Wow, thanks JazzGuyy for this valuable info. As simple as it may sound, man, its causing me to possibly trade in this 93 for a 103. That would be the equivalent new one right ? The 103 seems to be approx the same price I paid for my 93. So what would the harm be in that ? I just would get a better machine right ?

What exactly are the differences between the 93 ---> 95 ---> 103 ---> 105 ?

I am imaging the 93 and 103 are the same but one being the latest version (103). And it seems like the 95 and 105 are the same but the 103 being the latest version. No ?

If you guys don't think its dumb or I would be losing any features or qualities, I think I want to go back to Magnolia and trade my 93 in for the 103. I think I could still do it.

There is this in the FAQ: How is the BDP-103 different from the BDP-93?

-Bill
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post #23852 of 25267
11/30/12 at 2:33pm
And the 95 is the audiophile version of the 93 and the 105 is the audiophile version of the 103. So basically the 95 and 105 have better analog outputs, but match up feature-wise with their 93 / 103 siblings. The 105 also has additional digital inputs that the 103 doesn't have.
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post #23853 of 25267
11/30/12 at 3:55pm
Havent seen this asked here yet:

Has anyone tried the NuForce analog output upgrade board for the BDP-93? LINK

Anyone who has notice a difference? Is it worth $250? Does it get to you to BDP-95 status? wink.gif
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post #23854 of 25267
11/30/12 at 6:33pm
What are the odds we'll see the new Redbox streaming?
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post #23855 of 25267
11/30/12 at 6:37pm
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What are the odds we'll see the new Redbox streaming?
Doubtful... I think theyre done with the 93 other than firmware updates to fix issues.
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post #23856 of 25267
11/30/12 at 6:54pm
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Doubtful... I think theyre done with the 93 other than firmware updates to fix issues.

Agreed
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post #23857 of 25267
12/1/12 at 2:17pm
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Unfortunately the Netflix app won't be updated for the 93/95. The Oppo circuitry is missing some security feature(s) that Netflix insists on for the newer, better apps. Netflix will not provide a better app for the 93/95 models and Netflix determines what products get what apps. Oppo has said there is nothing than can do about this because it would involve hardware changes. The 103/105 have the features and thus support the better Netflix app.

The irony here is that consoles like PS3 or XBOX, even though they are on older hardware platforms they got the updates. So probably the updates are possible but Netflix is maybe not interested ? Maybe the Oppo market is not big enough for them to warrant the testing/certification process ? No matter the reasons though, this is sad news for current BDP-93 owners ...
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post #23858 of 25267
12/1/12 at 2:22pm
That´s actually it I believe. The Oppo market is too small, combined with the fact that Oppo is not adding functionality to older hardware sets.
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post #23859 of 25267
12/1/12 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post

Havent seen this asked here yet:
Has anyone tried the NuForce analog output upgrade board for the BDP-93? LINK
Anyone who has notice a difference? Is it worth $250? Does it get to you to BDP-95 status? wink.gif

I put the NE mod in a few weeks ago. When the 103 came out the price dropped to $250.00 so I went for it. Free shipping and a 30 no questions return
made it for me. Being into high res multi channel musiv\c, it made sense to at least try. Everything they say about it is true. Immediatly I noticed better base lines, more present. Better vocals, a very even warm, tube like sound, that got better over time, as Jason @ Nuforce said it would as it burned in. I has my copy of Morph the kat dvd audio in and I swear I must have played it at least 8 times and I'm hearing new stuff. ( Thats when I e mailed them about burn in)
Have not heard the 95, so can't judge that, but my avr is older and with 5.1 analog ports. If you use HDMI the mod is a waste. since my amp is still kicking why not? Blu ray movies are the best improvment. very even, no more loud parts where you have to tuen it down then up to hear voices. It's all "even" and more clear. To me well worth the cost.
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post #23860 of 25267
12/1/12 at 3:28pm
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Doubtful... I think theyre done with the 93 other than firmware updates to fix issues.

So at this point, this is a dead platform outside of any fixes.
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post #23861 of 25267
12/1/12 at 3:38pm
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So at this point, this is a dead platform outside of any fixes.

Probably, but with Oppo you can never say this with absolute certaintly.
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post #23862 of 25267
12/2/12 at 11:49am
That's why I got out while the getting was good (upgraded!). Oppos retain their value better than most electronic components, so they more than pay for themselves with what you get in the form of support, features, and build quality (with occasional exceptions in this area but that Support goes above and beyond to rectify).
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post #23863 of 25267
12/2/12 at 12:24pm
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So at this point, this is a dead platform outside of any fixes.

Not sure I agree...my Oppo 93 is about as "live" as any audio/video component could be!
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post #23864 of 25267
12/3/12 at 4:32pm
We picked up the 3D version of Prometheus. When watching the 2D disc the soundtrack seemed very subdued......much like night mode was engaged on my AVR. After doubling checking my AVR (night mode not an option with DTS-HD) I switched to player decoding and there was a little more "heat" in the soundtrack, but not like I felt there should be.

I am using a Denon 3808, HDMI from Oppo to Denon with the old firmware that still allows ISO playback.

Just wondering if anyone else noticed something similar.
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post #23865 of 25267
12/4/12 at 12:59pm
Hey guys, was going to try and watch The Dark Knight Rises on Vudu through the 93 and was just wondering if I should be aware of any issues with Vudu in general on the 93? I have never used the service before, so not sure what I am getting myself into in conjunction with the 93.

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post #23866 of 25267
12/4/12 at 1:47pm
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Hey guys, was going to try and watch The Dark Knight Rises on Vudu through the 93 and was just wondering if I should be aware of any issues with Vudu in general on the 93? I have never used the service before, so not sure what I am getting myself into in conjunction with the 93.
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Run the test within the app to determine the highest quality version you can order.
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post #23867 of 25267
12/4/12 at 1:58pm
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Run the test within the app to determine the highest quality version you can order.

Sounds good, thanks!
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post #23868 of 25267
12/4/12 at 3:09pm
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Hey guys, was going to try and watch The Dark Knight Rises on Vudu through the 93 and was just wondering if I should be aware of any issues with Vudu in general on the 93? I have never used the service before, so not sure what I am getting myself into in conjunction with the 93.
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If you run into buffering issues, check out these two posts for help:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1291855/official-oppo-bdp-93-owners-thread/11460#post_20560137
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1291855/official-oppo-bdp-93-owners-thread/15180#post_21145437
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post #23869 of 25267
12/4/12 at 5:55pm
I have hi res files on a hard drive which I play through my Oppo 93 (mostly 24/96 FLACs from HDTracks and other 24 / 96 FLACs ripped from vinyl). I just have a simple file structure set up which is about 3 levels deep (Type / Artist / Album). I have maybe 30 or 40 albums on the drive. I seem to randomly lose tracks within some album sub-folders. For example, I'll choose an artist I haven't listened to in a while and 3 or 4 of the album tracks will be missing from the sub folder. Sometimes the missing files are in sequence, some times not - I haven't figured out a pattern. I then copy them back and I'm good for a while and then they start disappearing again. Is this an Oppo software problem? Has anyone else experienced this? It's getting a bit annoying.
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post #23870 of 25267
12/5/12 at 4:30am
The Oppo has no ability to write to a drive at all, so it cannot be the source of the problem. I imagine that you have run various disk integrity checks on your hard drive, but if not you should do so. This symptom sounds like the hard drive is having problems.
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post #23871 of 25267
12/5/12 at 5:10am
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I have hi res files on a hard drive which I play through my Oppo 93 (mostly 24/96 FLACs from HDTracks and other 24 / 96 FLACs ripped from vinyl). I just have a simple file structure set up which is about 3 levels deep (Type / Artist / Album). I have maybe 30 or 40 albums on the drive. I seem to randomly lose tracks within some album sub-folders. For example, I'll choose an artist I haven't listened to in a while and 3 or 4 of the album tracks will be missing from the sub folder. Sometimes the missing files are in sequence, some times not - I haven't figured out a pattern. I then copy them back and I'm good for a while and then they start disappearing again. Is this an Oppo software problem? Has anyone else experienced this? It's getting a bit annoying.

Are you using the latest firmware? Is your drive externally powered or are you depending on power from the USB socket? Are you making sure the drive is not active before you unplug it from the OPPO? (NOTE: eSATA drives are not hot-pluggable on the OPPO.)

Is the partition on the drive particularly large? Have you connected the drive back to the computer between the last time you saw those tracks on the OPPO and when you first spotted them missing? There's a bug in some operating system versions that allows you to use a partition larger than the OS is actually able to support. When you write files to the drive the OS may fail to complete those writes properly (without warning). Later, when the OS "cleans up" the drive, the files you thought were there are no longer accessible.

This can also happen if you fail to properly "eject" the drive before unplugging it from the computer. The computer is caching directory entries and hasn't been given a chance to write those to the disc before the disc was unplugged.
--Bob
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post #23872 of 25267
12/5/12 at 5:11am
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The Oppo has no ability to write to a drive at all, so it cannot be the source of the problem. I imagine that you have run various disk integrity checks on your hard drive, but if not you should do so. This symptom sounds like the hard drive is having problems.

Not precisely true. The 93 can write to FAT formatted drives if the drive has been selected for use as Persistent Storage (in place of the flash memory Persistent Storage in the player). The 93 is not supposed to be able to write to NTFS formatted drives.
--Bob
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post #23873 of 25267
12/5/12 at 5:14am
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We picked up the 3D version of Prometheus. When watching the 2D disc the soundtrack seemed very subdued......much like night mode was engaged on my AVR. After doubling checking my AVR (night mode not an option with DTS-HD) I switched to player decoding and there was a little more "heat" in the soundtrack, but not like I felt there should be.

I am using a Denon 3808, HDMI from Oppo to Denon with the old firmware that still allows ISO playback.

Just wondering if anyone else noticed something similar.

Set the 93 to Secondary Audio OFF, HDMI Audio LPCM. Set Dynamic Range Compression OFF. Try that combo.
--Bob
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post #23874 of 25267
12/5/12 at 6:29am
I wonder if the Oppo could be used as the media controller for the upcoming DLNA equipped software for Silicon Dust's HDHomerun...

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/hdhomerun-prime-is-the-first-cablecard-tuner-to-deliver-live-tv/
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post #23875 of 25267
12/5/12 at 7:20am
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I wonder if the Oppo could be used as the media controller for the upcoming DLNA equipped software for Silicon Dust's HDHomerun...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/hdhomerun-prime-is-the-first-cablecard-tuner-to-deliver-live-tv/
It could possibly work for non-premium channels (someone with a HDHomeRun Prime will need to try it), but not for anything marked Copy-Once as that will require DTCP-IP for DRM.
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post #23876 of 25267
12/5/12 at 2:47pm
Can anybody recommend media server sw for a mac, os 10.5.8. I downloaded an older version of ps3 media sw that is 10.5.8 compliant, but doesn't seem to work with the Oppo.
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post #23877 of 25267
12/5/12 at 2:57pm
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Can anybody recommend media server sw for a mac, os 10.5.8. I downloaded an older version of ps3 media sw that is 10.5.8 compliant, but doesn't seem to work with the Oppo.

Twonky runs on Mac.

-Bill
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post #23878 of 25267
12/5/12 at 3:34pm
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Twonky runs on Mac.
-Bill

10.6 or greater. I need something for osx 10.5.8.

Simpliest answer may be to upgrade osx to 10.6 and use the current ps3 media server.
Edited by glangford - 12/5/12 at 3:41pm
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post #23879 of 25267
12/5/12 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Are you using the latest firmware? Is your drive externally powered or are you depending on power from the USB socket? Are you making sure the drive is not active before you unplug it from the OPPO? (NOTE: eSATA drives are not hot-pluggable on the OPPO.)
Is the partition on the drive particularly large? Have you connected the drive back to the computer between the last time you saw those tracks on the OPPO and when you first spotted them missing? There's a bug in some operating system versions that allows you to use a partition larger than the OS is actually able to support. When you write files to the drive the OS may fail to complete those writes properly (without warning). Later, when the OS "cleans up" the drive, the files you thought were there are no longer accessible.
This can also happen if you fail to properly "eject" the drive before unplugging it from the computer. The computer is caching directory entries and hasn't been given a chance to write those to the disc before the disc was unplugged.
--Bob

Bob - thanks for your detailed response. Yes, latest firmware. Yes, Externally powered drive and yes I do eject properly. Not active - I'm not absolutely sure so I'll check that. The drive is 0.5TB. I suspect the file write issue you describe may be the issue. I'll keep testing with your suggestions / questions in mind.
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post #23880 of 25267
12/6/12 at 12:34am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Not precisely true. The 93 can write to FAT formatted drives if the drive has been selected for use as Persistent Storage (in place of the flash memory Persistent Storage in the player). The 93 is not supposed to be able to write to NTFS formatted drives.
--Bob

About a year ago I reported a similar problem. My ntfs drive is written to from a plug computer running debian Linux. I can plug the drive into oppo93 and the oppo read from the drive fine. Unplug the drive from the oppp (including first powering off the oppo) and stick the drive back to a Windows PC or the debian Linux box and the drive cannot be recognized.
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