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post #23911 of 25156
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ I think you are confused about the pricing.
The 93, as sold on OPPO Digital's web site, was priced at $499, new, just the same as the 103 is now. The 103 is indeed the replacement model for the 93.
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--Bob

Thanks for the response and correction........I guess I did get the pricing wrong.
post #23912 of 25156
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Originally Posted by indieke2 View Post

Where they will answer " resarch the oppo 93 thread?" It is a question for that have both.

While it is a two-thread question, the fact is you have many output options on your Oppo and you are trying to figure out the best of them for you Sony. Therefore the best answer will come from the Sony thread dedicated to best input regardless of blu-ray or digital front end.
post #23913 of 25156
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It would be helpful if you could confirm this on some other storage device, say a USB thumb drive.
-Bill

I just checked five different .mts files that i played from the hard drive sitting in a Thermaltake BlacX connected to the Oppo through the eSATA port and the same five files on an USB flash drive plugged into the port on the front of the Oppo. Some files played sound about two seconds into the file, went silent for a second or two and then came back with video and sound, others took up to 6 seconds to appear in a similar manner. The the time counter on the front of the Oppo is counting and is accurately representing where in the file timeline the .mts file is during this period and when the file and sound appear we are already into the clip by 2 - 6 seconds.

I have my Oppo HDMI plugged into an Onkyo NR906 which feeds the Pioneer Kuro HDMI input. I wonder if this is occurring in the Onkyo and the Oppo is putting out video from second one?
post #23914 of 25156
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Originally Posted by soundlight View Post


I just checked five different .mts files that i played from the hard drive sitting in a Thermaltake BlacX connected to the Oppo through the eSATA port and the same five files on an USB flash drive plugged into the port on the front of the Oppo. Some files played sound about two seconds into the file, went silent for a second or two and then came back with video and sound, others took up to 6 seconds to appear in a similar manner. The the time counter on the front of the Oppo is counting and is accurately representing where in the file timeline the .mts file is during this period and when the file and sound appear we are already into the clip by 2 - 6 seconds.

I have my Oppo HDMI plugged into an Onkyo NR906 which feeds the Pioneer Kuro HDMI input. I wonder if this is occurring in the Onkyo and the Oppo is putting out video from second one?

Next diagnostic step would be to connect the OPPO directly to the display, bypassing the receiver. Try both the HDMI1 & 2 outputs separately.

If this works better it indicates a handshaking delay somewhere in the chain. Even if so you can't blame the AVR alone because HDMI is a team sport.

-Bill
post #23915 of 25156

Is it possible to obtain gapless playback from sequential video files?

I have an Oppo BDP-93 connected to a BenQ W7000 projector and one of my ideas is to present "1950s" evenings, similar to what would have happened in a 1950s movie theatre. So, before interval there might be:
  • My own introductory fanfare-type thing
  • A newsreel
  • A Tom and Jerry cartoon
  • A home-made short
  • A Tarzan movie (or whatever)

After interval would come the main feature.

The originals of the various segments would be in a variety of formats: PAL, NTSC, BluRay, AVCHD, with various resolutions and frame rates, but I should be able to convert all of them to a single format such as MKV. My idea is to order the videos in the correct sequence by renaming alphabetically, then hit play. I'd like the playback to be seamless, but the Oppo pauses between videos with a "Source Searching" message. This leads me to a number of questions/comments:

  1. Is it possible to string together a series of videos and have them play seamlessly on the Oppo? Or is the problem with the projector?
  2. Would other players, say the Sony Playstation, be capable of gapless video playback?
  3. I could use my computer running VLC to play the videos in sequence, and I'm pretty sure that would result in gapless playback, but I'd rather not use my iMac.
  4. Is it possible to combine all the videos into one huge file with suitable software? I could convert the Blu-rays, DVDs, and home-shorts to MKV format, but can a single MKV file contain several videos stitched together, each with different resolutions and frame rates? And I would rather not have to re-encode; just join the videos together.


To sum up: is it feasible to link together several videos and then at a press of a button have them play seamlessly? What equipment, software, format would be required?

Any suggestions most appreciated.
Edited by guyburns - 12/11/12 at 2:54am
post #23916 of 25156

7.1 Sound via VUDU on the Oppo 93

Is this true (see below)? If so, is it because the firmware on the 93 is not capable of being so upgraded, or is Oppo trying to give a reason for 93 owners to ditch the 93 for the 103? If the latter, that is disappointing.

Anyone know the real story?


"The OPPO BDP-103/105 supports VUDU 3-D and 7.1 surround sound. The old OPPO BDP-93/95 will not be getting a firmware update to support VUDU 3-D with 7.1 Dolby Digital Plus (The old OPPO interface only offers VUDU 2-D with 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus) ."

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=6521012&postcount=155
post #23917 of 25156
7.1 Sound via VUDU on the Oppo 93

Is this true (see below)? If so, is it because the firmware on the 93 is not capable of being so upgraded, or is Oppo trying to give a reason for 93 owners to ditch the 93 for the 103? If the latter, that is disappointing.

Anyone know the real story?

"The OPPO BDP-103/105 supports VUDU 3-D and 7.1 surround sound. The old OPPO BDP-93/95 will not be getting a firmware update to support VUDU 3-D with 7.1 Dolby Digital Plus (The old OPPO interface only offers VUDU 2-D with 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus) ."

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=6521012&postcount=155
post #23918 of 25156
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Originally Posted by guyburns View Post



To sum up: is it feasible to link together several videos and then at a press of a button have them play seamlessly? What equipment, software, format would be required?

Any suggestions most appreciated.

There will always be a pause between media files on OPPO. How severe is this with your setup? If HDMI handshaking is involved, some projectors respond very poorly to that.

There will be no pause between chapters of a single file, but the resolution and frame rate would have to be the same for all content, which is probably not reasonable for a mix of material.

-Bill
post #23919 of 25156
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Originally Posted by caesar1 View Post

7.1 Sound via VUDU on the Oppo 93

Is this true (see below)? If so, is it because the firmware on the 93 is not capable of being so upgraded, or is Oppo trying to give a reason for 93 owners to ditch the 93 for the 103? If the latter, that is disappointing.

Anyone know the real story?

"The OPPO BDP-103/105 supports VUDU 3-D and 7.1 surround sound. The old OPPO BDP-93/95 will not be getting a firmware update to support VUDU 3-D with 7.1 Dolby Digital Plus (The old OPPO interface only offers VUDU 2-D with 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus) ."

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=6521012&postcount=155

OPPO has always been willing and eager to put on any network service, but you can't push a rope. Someone has to pull from the other end, in this case Vudu.

-Bill
post #23920 of 25156
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

OPPO has always been willing and eager to put on any network service, but you can't push a rope. Someone has to pull from the other end, in this case Vudu.
-Bill

Does this mean VUDU will not allow the update on the 93?
post #23921 of 25156
After reading through the piece at http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=6521012&postcount=155 just cited, I'm glad I got a 93 and not a 103.

My "music dashboard" (9" LCD display) that I use to navigate my networked music without turning on my projector wouldn't work with the 103/105 because the new models have dropped the analog composite video jack the 9" display needs!
post #23922 of 25156
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Originally Posted by caesar1 View Post


Does this mean VUDU will not allow the update on the 93?

That's my theory and I'm sticking with it. I have no inside info.

-Bill
post #23923 of 25156
The VUDU app in the current Official firmware for the 93/95 *ALREADY* supports DD+ 7.1 audio tracks for programs that have them, such as the HDX version of "Toy Story 3". This is true whether you are using LPCM, Bitstream, or Analog output.

(The splash screen that comes up when you launch the VUDU app only touts DD+ 5.1, but 7.1 works nonetheless,)

I don't know the status of 3D for VUDU on the 93/95 as I don't do 3D.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 12/11/12 at 12:15pm
post #23924 of 25156
It's here
:
OPPO Remote
OPPO Digital, Inc.

Free


Control your OPPO Blu-ray Player from any iOS device!
This is the first version of the OPPO Remote app for OPPO Blu-ray Disc Players. It works with the OPPO BDP-93, BDP-95 and later player models. (BDP-83, BDP-80 and DVD players are not supported.) The controlling iOS device must be connected to the same network as the Blu-ray player. Requires that the latest firmware is installed on the Blu-ray player. To obtain the latest player firmware, please visit OPPO Digital's web site.

Known limitation:
- The player must be turned on and connected to the network before it can be controlled by this app. The app can turn off the player but once the player is off, it cannot be turned on from the app since the player is disconnected from the network when it is off.
post #23925 of 25156
Thread Starter 
Looks like the iOS OPPO Remote is/should be available for you iOS users. No news yet on when the Media Remote will become available.
post #23926 of 25156
Questions regarding Color Space settings on the bd player hooked up to a Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD plasma. What is the best settings so the player and plasma do the least processing? I set my bd player to 'Source Direct' and was wondering what the Color Space should be? Color Space RGB 16-235 or YCbCr 4:2:2 or YCbCr 4:4:4 or Auto? I always had my bd player set to Auto, but I read that D-Nice recommends setting color space to RGB 16-235 and he said that Pioneer do internal processing in RGB.

So I assume setting the bd player to output 'Source Direct' and set space to RGB 16-235 does the least amount of processing and sampling for the Pio Kuro?
post #23927 of 25156
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Looks like the iOS OPPO Remote is/should be available for you iOS users. No news yet on when the Media Remote will become available.

Looks and works great. I can navigate the menus quicker with this app than the remote. Wish you can turn on the device.
post #23928 of 25156
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

After reading through the piece at http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=6521012&postcount=155 just cited, I'm glad I got a 93 and not a 103.
My "music dashboard" (9" LCD display) that I use to navigate my networked music without turning on my projector wouldn't work with the 103/105 because the new models have dropped the analog composite video jack the 9" display needs!
The Android app for the 103 (when it gets released) will serve as a nice alternative to an external display (not to mention more mobile!).
post #23929 of 25156
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

After reading through the piece at http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=6521012&postcount=155 just cited, I'm glad I got a 93 and not a 103.
My "music dashboard" (9" LCD display) that I use to navigate my networked music without turning on my projector wouldn't work with the 103/105 because the new models have dropped the analog composite video jack the 9" display needs!

If you ever need to switch displays, I've found a "Lilliput 669GL" a very good alternate. 1080P HDMI and all other inputs. It's only 7", but very easy to see.
post #23930 of 25156
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Originally Posted by guyburns View Post

I have an Oppo BDP-93 connected to a BenQ W7000 projector and one of my ideas is to present "1950s" evenings, similar to what would have happened in a 1950s movie theatre. So, before interval there might be:
  • My own introductory fanfare-type thing
  • A newsreel
  • A Tom and Jerry cartoon
  • A home-made short
  • A Tarzan movie (or whatever)

After interval would come the main feature.

The originals of the various segments would be in a variety of formats: PAL, NTSC, BluRay, AVCHD, with various resolutions and frame rates, but I should be able to convert all of them to a single format such as MKV. My idea is to order the videos in the correct sequence by renaming alphabetically, then hit play. I'd like the playback to be seamless, but the Oppo pauses between videos with a "Source Searching" message. This leads me to a number of questions/comments:

  1. Is it possible to string together a series of videos and have them play seamlessly on the Oppo? Or is the problem with the projector?
  2. Would other players, say the Sony Playstation, be capable of gapless video playback?
  3. I could use my computer running VLC to play the videos in sequence, and I'm pretty sure that would result in gapless playback, but I'd rather not use my iMac.
  4. Is it possible to combine all the videos into one huge file with suitable software? I could convert the Blu-rays, DVDs, and home-shorts to MKV format, but can a single MKV file contain several videos stitched together, each with different resolutions and frame rates? And I would rather not have to re-encode; just join the videos together.


To sum up: is it feasible to link together several videos and then at a press of a button have them play seamlessly? What equipment, software, format would be required?

Any suggestions most appreciated.

I've begun authoring DVD-As in order to get gapless audio playback. Thinking aloud, but I wonder if you couldn't also author video files to DVD-V or Blu-ray format to get gapless video playback. There are a number of authoring tools, some that are relatively inexpensive. I don't know about all of them, but some of the tools I've seen offer gapless audio, so I would imagine gapless video would also be a possibility. I'm not sure how it would handle the different resolutions/frame rates, etc. and whether it would re-encode the files. For audio, I can combine files with different samplerates/bitrates, but don't know about video.

I still have ISO playback so I author my DVD-As to ISO, but I would think once you've authored a DVD-V or Blu-ray, you could then convert to MKV or some other compatible format if your 93 doesn't support ISO. Might be worth checking out for your purposes.
Edited by scolumbo - 12/12/12 at 3:04pm
post #23931 of 25156
Just noticed that Pandora has launched in Australia and New Zealand. I wonder if Oppo players running US firmware will now work in Oz. I'll give it a try when I get a moment.
post #23932 of 25156
^ Tried it. Worked fine:-)
post #23933 of 25156
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Originally Posted by SeriousHorse View Post

Just noticed that Pandora has launched in Australia and New Zealand. I wonder if Oppo players running US firmware will now work in Oz. I'll give it a try when I get a moment.

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Originally Posted by SeriousHorse View Post

^ Tried it. Worked fine:-)

Thanks for posting that! Useful info.
--Bob
post #23934 of 25156
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Originally Posted by oppopioneer View Post

Questions regarding Color Space settings on the bd player hooked up to a Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD plasma. What is the best settings so the player and plasma do the least processing? I set my bd player to 'Source Direct' and was wondering what the Color Space should be? Color Space RGB 16-235 or YCbCr 4:2:2 or YCbCr 4:4:4 or Auto? I always had my bd player set to Auto, but I read that D-Nice recommends setting color space to RGB 16-235 and he said that Pioneer do internal processing in RGB.
So I assume setting the bd player to output 'Source Direct' and set space to RGB 16-235 does the least amount of processing and sampling for the Pio Kuro?

Yes, try using Color Space RGB 16-235 / source direct / & Deep Colour = OFF. I too have the 60" Kuro which is being fed by the Oppo 93. After many hours of testing, I used these settings.
Try doing a search for "Ratatouille" on this thread.... Bob Pariseau posted some great info on how to use a test scene in that movie to test for the best colour space/resolution settings.

Paul
post #23935 of 25156
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Originally Posted by hidefpaul View Post

Yes, try using Color Space RGB 16-235 / source direct / & Deep Colour = OFF. I too have the 60" Kuro which is being fed by the Oppo 93. After many hours of testing, I used these settings.
Try doing a search for "Ratatouille" on this thread.... Bob Pariseau posted some great info on how to use a test scene in that movie to test for the best colour space/resolution settings.
Paul

I actually use that setting for my panasonic gt25 set.

Jacob
post #23936 of 25156
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Originally Posted by hidefpaul View Post

Yes, try using Color Space RGB 16-235 / source direct / & Deep Colour = OFF. I too have the 60" Kuro which is being fed by the Oppo 93. After many hours of testing, I used these settings.
Try doing a search for "Ratatouille" on this thread.... Bob Pariseau posted some great info on how to use a test scene in that movie to test for the best colour space/resolution settings.
Paul

Thank you.

I just watched Point Break on dvd on my Pio Kuro plasma. I had the bd player set to RGB 16-235 and Source Direct. I had my Pio Kuro plasma set to Color Space-3 RGB 16-235 with Film Mode-Advance on. It looked like I was watching it in the theater on a movie screen. The Pio plasmas duplicates and replicates film authentically, it was amazing to see all the pops, scratches, film grain as the original source and how it upconverts dvd.

The Pioneer Elite Kuro plasma have a feature called "Film Mode" and if you set it to 'Advance' while watching bluray and if it detects a 1080p/24 signal it will upconvert it to 1080p/72. It also handles 480i dvd film based material well too.
post #23937 of 25156
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I actually use that setting for my panasonic gt25 set.
Jacob

I read on another website/forum that the Panasonic plasmas do their sampling or processing in YCbCr 4:2:2 and someone posted that D-Nice recommends setting YCbCr 4:2:2 for Panasonic's. I could be wrong though so don't quote me on this. See if D-Nice or another ISF certified calibrator can answer this.
post #23938 of 25156
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Originally Posted by oppopioneer View Post

I read on another website/forum that the Panasonic plasmas do their sampling or processing in YCbCr 4:2:2 and someone posted that D-Nice recommends setting YCbCr 4:2:2 for Panasonic's. I could be wrong though so don't quote me on this. See if D-Nice or another ISF certified calibrator can answer this.

I heard this from panasonic.

Jacob
post #23939 of 25156
would this also be true for a TH58pz800u?
post #23940 of 25156
So I would assume if you have a Panasonic plasma and wanted the least amount of processing and mucking around for best results to set your bd player to Color Space YCbCr 4:2:2 ?
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