Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 803

Mine does it as well, whether outputting DSD or PCM, though only once or twice during playback. Kind've like a quiet "snap", though was really loud when playing a
Glossa SACD of Stravinsky's Firebird that was mastered with VERY low volume. Have noticed that it'll pop at the end of disc playback as well, if set for DSD output. Connected to a Pio Elite SC-25 via HDMi

1080/24p Blu Ray content only.
When I say a frame is skipped, I mean like one single frame of video is skipped.
Looks like a bad edit, audio is unaffected.

I experienced terrible frame drops on a few mkv from "other sources" that lent viewing a very juddery appearance.

I initially ascribed this to perhaps broadcast glitches experienced by the author, but I watched the same material on my HTPC without problem.

When I investigated, I think I discovered the mkv had been muxed with the wrong framerate, or else I simply remuxed the file and it was then okay on the Oppo: so a problem with the file rather than the Oppo.

A video frame being skipped every now and then sounds like a very small framerate mismatch from standard that the Oppo is attempting to compensate for. I believe something similar happens when playing on an HTPC that can't exactly match the encoded framerate.

Is your problematic title perhaps a genuine 24fps (instead of the usual 23.976fps) and the TV does not like it?

I curse the history of video that gives us such problematically consequential framerates today.

Saw this on a Samsung (BDP-UP5000) player before but not on an Oppo. I would expect the conscientious Oppo to deliver a fix if the fault lies in the player.

nope 23.796hz.

I have always used .iso files but some of the new dvd players cannot play back .iso files from a disc (new OPPO). They can play other formats.
I have an oppo 93 which can play .iso files (the older firmware).
Can it play mkv files also?
What is the best or the most convenient digital file format to use, to build my video library from my blue ray discs?
I downloaded makemkv program, based on what I read on this thread..
I used it to make a digital file of my blue ray disc. It made a directory with various files, I assume one of which is mkv.
I tried to play that file using my oppo 93 but it would not play.
there were two options, while converting BD to mkv file.
Check or uncheck "Decode". I tried both.
When unchecked. it actually came to the main menu of the movie but I couldnot go beyond that. The menu was very slow to interact with but it would not play.

The region free dongle is not to blame, I found that out.

My guess is all up to date 93 units have the issue. However most people will never notice. I am talking like one missing frame per 2 hour movie.

Yes, mkv is a supported container.

That's a big topic. You might want to read in this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1336046/ripping-blu-rays-ii

You might find help with this in the thread above, or in an makemkv forum.

Once you are making MKV files that play correctly with PC software, then we can help if the files are not playing on the OPPO.

The FAQ has other links: What are the alternatives to .iso files?

-Bill

The BDP-103 can play ISO files when they are mounted in a virtual drive on a PC (with a AVCHD share name). Both the 93 and 103 can play BDMV folders on attached storage. So there's no compelling reason to mess with conversion to MKV or M2TS, although either one also works.

I was away on a trip. I was able to keep in forum. there is the 1990 total recall rerelease movie on blu ray. the mind blowing edition. its set at 24P. perhasp you can get a copy and test it.

Jacob

I have that edition, and a few other discs encoded at 24.hz, my guess is this is a minor firmware bug.
No other reason why it would affect two different Oppo 93s.

You are right, hardly anyone will see that: I thought you were talking a frame drop every so many seconds.

Have you ruled out the TV as the culprit?

Mkv is supported as a container, but only a limited number of codecs are supported within that container.

Mkv is fine if you have DD or DTS, but not for TrueHD or DTS-HD, so it is mainly used for re-encoded material that does not require the absolute best quality.

If you want TrueHD or DTS-HD then m2ts files or Bluray structure is best (Bluray structure gives chapter navigation).

Since you can play ISO, that is the best container as it maintains menus and feastures as though it is the original disc; however your Oppo supports a flexible range of formats that each have their particular applications for playback.

Hey guys, I am trying my hardest to get my Oppo BDP-93 to work with an IR repeater system. Right now, I have tried to Cables to Go 40430 and the Monoprice Single Band repeater. I am trying to connect using a Mono to mono 3.5mm cable and it just refuses to work. I did get it to work once with the single band, but anytime I plugged in my receiver it would stop working. Every other device in the chain works flawlessly. Any ideas? It will work using the IR Blaster, just not the Mono in.

Yes, I ruled out both my Panasonic Plasma and Onkyo 906- I tried movies for a week on my PS3 and then Oppo 83. All fine and good.
Then I got a new 93 back from Oppo and the same thing issue manifested.
Mind you, I left the mod dongle off just to make sure it wasn't the culprit.
Next I'll see if the HDMI 2 output makes a difference, as it bypasses the Marvell Chipset.

If two random 93's exhibit the same issue it's in all of them, I doubt anyone would notice.
The Oppo people were unable to witness it, and really expecting them to would be unrealistic.
Remember I was the dude who found out that the Criterion edition of "Carlos" was defective, nothing gets past me.
The thing that is upsetting is maybe this isn't a firmware thing, but it's a flaw the 93 has always had and it just took me 12 months to notice it.
Either way, at least I know nothing is broken...

It's a shame you can't revert firmware to test that element. Maybe Oppodigital will revert the firmware for you back to September 2011, so that you can test out your theory. ;-)

I'll see if HDMI 2 makes a difference.

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 I posted earlier in this thread that I had used Oppo's recomandation & purchased a xantech: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1291855/official-oppo-bdp-93-owners-thread/13860#post_20872217

Does anyone have an update on the Total Recall audio dropout issues? Is it a firmware fix or a full out disc replacement fix?

The problem is with the disc authoring. Many players are having problems with the disc using bitstream to a receiver. Firmware may be able to fix it but maybe not. Sony should probably issue a new version of the disc.

Clearly anyone who owns a copy of Total Recall should return it as defective, and don't bother with trying a replacement. They won't do anything unless they are getting them returned in large numbers.

probably have a better chance of oppo finding a solution for the problem unlike other blu ray players with this issue.

Jacob

I have a dumb question; when i play dvds in my xbox slim through my denon 1612 to my samsung led, in my denon when i view info then video it states 8bit, will oppo display in 32?

I ask because i read this on their site and am confused: SABRE 32 Reference Audio DAC - The DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) is one of the most important components for digital audio playback. The SABRE 32 Reference ES9018 from ESS Technology is the world’s best performing 32-bit audio DAC solution targeted for high-end consumer applications and professional studio equipment. With the ESS patented 32-bit Hyperstream™ DAC architecture and Time Domain Jitter Eliminator, the SABRE 32 Reference DAC delivers an unprecedented DNR (Dynamic Range) of up to 135dB and THD+N (Total Harmonic Distortion plus Noise) of -120dB, the industry’s highest performance level that will satisfy even the most demanding audio enthusiast. T

As I understand the dropout issues on recent releases with TrueHD audio, its related to changes made in Dolby encoding that seem to depend on upgrades to decoder firmware to function smoothly. Problem being that they started using the new encoding BEFORE providing the updates to decoder makers. So much for backwards compatibility. I believe this is Dolby's screw up. But that doesn't excuse the studios from releasing discs they know to be problematic.

We were at Costco Thursday night and I couldn't help but notice that they had every new release EXCEPT Total Recall. It seemed kinda odd but maybe they rejected their batch?

Seing if my problem persists when using the HDMI 2 output, won't know for a while…

First world problems.


Have a feeling the culprit is the July update that added DVD at 24p to the Marvell chip, just a feeling I have...
Edited by Fanboyz - 12/22/12 at 7:32pm

I reviewed this title on my site (I'd link to it, but I don't want to violate any rules around here). As I mentioned in the review, I had bad audio dropouts while bitstreaming the TrueHD from the BDP-93 into my Onkyo TX-NR818, but switching to internal decoding on the Oppo and going out to the Onkyo as PCM eliminated the dropouts entirely. Perhaps the last firmware update from Oppo already added the updated decoder, but Onkyo, well, that's another story....

Yeah, this is what I'm talking about, it happens at least two or three times during playback of any given disc for me. For obvious reasons, I hear it mostly when playing classical. I don't believe I have ever heard it with DSD output, but I don't ever use that option (sounds like crap on my Onkyo 818). It REALLY bugs me. I'm beginning to wonder if the player is/was a lemon or if this is something inherent to these Oppos that hardly anyone notices.

No, not when I switch between the two, during actual playback of the disc, I just get an intermittent, random "pop" Redbeemer, see my post above for what I'm connecting to. tomrowe125 seems to have the same issue with completely different equipment. Might be time to look into a 103 -- assuming it doesn't have the SAME issue.

Is there an easy way to flip the DVD 24p setting, i.e. without having to bring up the Setup menu, scroll to Video Setup, scroll to DVD 24p Conversion, press Enter, scroll the resulting popup menu, and then press Enter to select On or Off? Using Oppo's remote?

I read Bob's post somewhere that it can be done "on the fly". Did he only mean that it can be changed without having to manually stop the DVD playback? Or also that it can be done somewhat less disturbingly?

I understand that changing this setting causes a HDMI handshake, so the display goes blank. But it would be nice to be able to do it without having to press the remote buttons so many times.