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Thread Starter 
If you believe it is a QDEO issue then use HDMI 2, not HDMI 1, and see if the same issues occur. HDMI 2 is Source Direct when the Primary Output is set to HDMI 1.
post #24122 of 26580
Already used HDMI 2 for a week and everything was fine, no issue.
Now I wanna see if Source Direct on HDMI 1 has problems...
post #24123 of 26580
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

Already used HDMI 2 for a week and everything was fine, no issue.
Now I wanna see if Source Direct on HDMI 1 has problems...

Am I the only one who sees this as a non issue? Seeing one frame skip in an entire movie, and just happening to catch it? Seems like all about nothing to me.
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^ Well it's a mystery at the moment as it's not at all obvious how you'd create a bug that would do that. At this point we're still collecting information. It could turn out it's just a symptom of some deeper problem. Obviously at this point it's nothing to get alarmed about, but that doesn't mean discard the results.

I'm leaning towards it being a fluke of how HDMI 1 output interacts with his particular display. The trick however will be to find a more readily repeatable failure case so we can tell.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Am I the only one who sees this as a non issue? Seeing one frame skip in an entire movie, and just happening to catch it? Seems like all about nothing to me.
+1!
post #24126 of 26580
Well...tried to bring back my copy of the aforementioned "flawed" Total Recall, since as stated the bluray is flawed (audio dropouts)...well the major retailer will only exchange the disc for the same thing....really hoping Sony recalls the disc,or works with Oppo and other mfg's to come up with a firmware fix
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BB took mine back...threw it in a box with about another dozen or so and said the supplier had been alerted of the problem. Apparently, the first person that returned it insisted that the manager play the disc on their demo system, and after it failed all returns were accepted. No word back from Oppo yet on possible 93 fw update or other fix in the works.
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Well it's a mystery at the moment as it's not at all obvious how you'd create a bug that would do that. At this point we're still collecting information. It could turn out it's just a symptom of some deeper problem. Obviously at this point it's nothing to get alarmed about, but that doesn't mean discard the results.
I'm leaning towards it being a fluke of how HDMI 1 output interacts with his particular display. The trick however will be to find a more readily repeatable failure case so we can tell.
--Bob

Yeah but two different 93s have the same issue.

Also if it doesn't do it on HDMI 1 with source direct, what does that mean?
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Is there a thumbnail view mode for music files (USB External) on Oppo 93/95 (this feature was recently added to Oppo 103/105)?

Is there any issues/bugs (Oppo 93/95) with making a temporary playlist out of music files on a USB external hard drive?

Unfortunately, it is not possible to make a playlist for a USB drive in Oppo 103/105.
post #24130 of 26580
Thread Starter 
There is no thumbnail view with the BDP-9x series of players.

Playlists are not saved, but they can be created for that power cycle. There are no known bugs with this functionality.
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

There is no thumbnail view with the BDP-9x series of players.
Playlists are not saved, but they can be created for that power cycle. There are no known bugs with this functionality.

I do not want to save the playlist permanently. That's great and works for me. I wanted to purchase an Oppo 103 or a 105 but they don't have an external hard drive playlist feature (very odd).

Can you navigate through different music folders and choose the music files you want and put them in order?

I think without a thumbnail view mode you can only see the folder names and double click on them to open them, is that correct?

The Oppo 9X manual shows that when you play a music file, it displays the album cover art on the TV (while the song is being played), is this correct?
Edited by sharok - 12/29/12 at 8:51pm
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So my 2 powered external harddrives I had were starting to fill up so I purchased a 4 bay hard drive enclosure a couple of days ago and tested it out tonite....seems to work flawlessly with the Oppo.
Only thing I dont like about it is the lights in front are a bit bright.....bling factor is cool but its a bit much in my darkened room.
Its the Vantec HX4 if anyone is interested.



And I decided to run HDMI 1 direct to my display and use HDMI 2 for audio....operation seems to be quicker and no screen flash (re:HDMI handshake) noticed.
post #24133 of 26580
I picked up the 3d edition of finding nemo. I didnt have any audio drop out watching it in 3d. was the person that having the audio problems doing the regular 2d?

Jacob
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Originally Posted by Yosh70 View Post

Only thing I dont like about it is the lights in front are a bit bright.....bling factor is cool but its a bit much in my darkened room.

These may help...

http://www.lightdims.com/
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Originally Posted by sharok View Post

. . .
The Oppo 9X manual shows that when you play a music file, it displays the album cover art on the TV (while the song is being played), is this correct?

It shows the album art if it's been embedded in the music file. Most purchased downloads - HDtracks, iTrax, eMusic - have it embedded (it's a tag like the track name and artist tags).

For files you rip yourself, you can embed the album art (and massage the track tags and filenames) using a free program called MP3tag - which works on FLACs and other formats as well. It can even let you search Amazon for album thumbnails to embed, or embed your own jpeg scan of the album cover.

The album cover is shown by the BDP-93 as a thumbnail to the left of the track info - it's not a fullscreen image - that's reserved for the pleasingly retro wallpaper image of a low-mass tonearm playing the top LP on a stack of disks on a record-changer (remember those?).

Phil
Edited by Philnick - 12/30/12 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by ped View Post

These may help...
http://www.lightdims.com/

I'm not so sure those would work as the lights are deeper inside the case surrounded by the clear plastic cover.
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I had my Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player connected to my Sony XBR-55HX929 TV through my Denon AVR-3311ci receiver using HDMI. When I navigated around the Disney WOW World of Wonder calibration Blu-ray disc, my TV would go blank for a few seconds when I changed track and the first few seconds of video and audio of the track would be skipped. When I rewound to the beginning of the track, the video and audio would play fine. When I connected my Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player directly to my Sony XBR-55HX929 TV, I didn't have this problem. It seemed that the Oppe player or the Denon receiver lost the first few seconds of each track when switching video and audio formats between track and menu. I would appreciate any help to fix this. Thanks.
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Sounds like the Denon handshakes more slowly than the Sony when the signal format changes. This sounds like a problem specific to calibration disks more than actual entertainment disks, though it's possible that it could happen going from the menu to the beginning of a program if they're in different formats - which is not uncommon.

If the problem is of broader effect than just on calibration disks, how about running the video direct to the Sony and sending the audio to the Denon via multichannel analog? That way you avoid any chance of a slow HDMI handshake by the Denon muting all the outputs, which could happen if you ran the audio to the Denon via HDMI and it reacted slowly to an audio format change.

That's what I've always done, but I don't have any other choice, since my AVR predates the introduction of HDMI! I will say that the 93's analog output sounds very, very good.

The only real downside is that you have to choose the correct input separately on the Sony and the Denon - but with two disk players, you could do the classic Dark Side of the Moon / Wizard of Oz pairing that way.
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Can you use video noise reduction for Netflix? If so, does it help?
post #24140 of 26580
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

It shows the album art if it's been embedded in the music file. Most purchased downloads - HDtracks, iTrax, eMusic - have it embedded (it's a tag like the track name and artist tags).
For files you rip yourself, you can embed the album art (and massage the track tags and filenames) using a free program called MP3tag - which works on FLACs and other formats as well. It can even let you search Amazon for album thumbnails to embed, or embed your own jpeg scan of the album cover.
The album cover is shown by the BDP-93 as a thumbnail to the left of the track info - it's not a fullscreen image - that's reserved for the pleasingly retro wallpaper image of a low-mass tonearm playing the top LP on a stack of disks on a record-changer (remember those?).
Phil

Phil,

Thanks you very much for the info. All my albums/songs are ripped as ".wav" and have an embeded album cover art (dbpoweramp embeds the cover art into the folders).

If I've folders within folder (different albums by the same artist), can I click on the main folder and navigate through different folders in order to choose a music file?

Thanks again.
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you might try sending the video from the OPPO directly to the TV and routing audio only through the Denon. My guess is that the scalers in the Denon may not enhance the video coming out of the OPPO
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sharok View Post

Can you navigate through different music folders and choose the music files you want and put them in order?
The player will add them to the Playlist in the order that you have added them to the Playlist, regardless of where the files were originally stored.
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I think without a thumbnail view mode you can only see the folder names and double click on them to open them, is that correct?
You will press ENTER on the folder you want to open after highlighting it. This will open the folder and show any contents (if available) for the media type the player is currently set to (example MUSIC will show APE, FLAC, and WAV audio formats, but nothing video related like AVI or MKV).
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The Oppo 9X manual shows that when you play a music file, it displays the album cover art on the TV (while the song is being played), is this correct?
In the NOW PLAYING screen as long as there is an Album Art contained in the file, the player will display these on the television screen to the left of the file information. Please note that this only works for FLAC, MP3, M4A and WMA.
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Originally Posted by sharok View Post

Phil,
. . . All my albums/songs are ripped as ".wav" and have an embeded album cover art (dbpoweramp embeds the cover art into the folders).. . .

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

. . .In the NOW PLAYING screen as long as there is an Album Art contained in the file, the player will display these on the television screen to the left of the file information. Please note that this only works for FLAC, MP3, M4A and WMA.

WAV files, being raw PCM, don't support track tags. dbpoweramp is working around this for you, but what it does isn't portable to other programs or devices. FLAC, being lossless compression from the open source community - essentially a zip file for PCM - does support track tags, yields file sizes about half the size of the originals - and being smaller, the resulting tracks travel over a network faster.

You can convert your WAVs to FLACs - I use Winamp for this but dbpoweramp might be able to do the same thing. Then use MP3tag to embed the album art into all of the FLACs in an album's folder by navigating to that folder, highlighting all the FLACs with Control-A and right-click on the square box in the lower left corner of MP3tag that displays the art if present in a file. That will let you choose to add an album cover and give you a file browser to point to the one that dbpoweramp put into the folder (assuming it's a jpeg). Click on the disk icon (leftmost on the toolbar) and it will re-save all the tracks with the artwork embedded and displayable by any program that understands them, including Winamp and, of course, the Oppo's Now Playing screen.

Phil
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Perhaps having Secondary Audio On was the culprit???
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

Perhaps having Secondary Audio On was the culprit???

its usually a very simple answer once you know what it is.

Jacob
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Always seems so obvious in hindsight…

Anyway, 4 movies with HDMI 1 on Source Direct, so far so good...
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Originally Posted by Yosh70 View Post

So my 2 powered external harddrives I had were starting to fill up so I purchased a 4 bay hard drive enclosure a couple of days ago and tested it out tonite....seems to work flawlessly with the Oppo.
Only thing I dont like about it is the lights in front are a bit bright.....bling factor is cool but its a bit much in my darkened room.
Its the Vantec HX4 if anyone is interested.

And I decided to run HDMI 1 direct to my display and use HDMI 2 for audio....operation seems to be quicker and no screen flash (re:HDMI handshake) noticed.

http://lightdims.com/ will solve your problem.

cheers
blairy

Oops, somebody already said this.
Edited by blairy - 12/30/12 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

WAV files, being raw PCM, don't support track tags. dbpoweramp is working around this for you, but what it does isn't portable to other programs or devices. FLAC, being lossless compression from the open source community - essentially a zip file for PCM - does support track tags, yields file sizes about half the size of the originals - and being smaller, the resulting tracks travel over a network faster.
You can convert your WAVs to FLACs - I use Winamp for this but dbpoweramp might be able to do the same thing. Then use MP3tag to embed the album art into all of the FLACs in an album's folder by navigating to that folder, highlighting all the FLACs with Control-A and right-click on the square box in the lower left corner of MP3tag that displays the art if present in a file. That will let you choose to add an album cover and give you a file browser to point to the one that dbpoweramp put into the folder (assuming it's a jpeg). Click on the disk icon (leftmost on the toolbar) and it will re-save all the tracks with the artwork embedded and displayable by any program that understands them, including Winamp and, of course, the Oppo's Now Playing screen.
Phil

Another vote for MP3tag...it's a really useful tool.

Lots of software out there that will do the job for you.

I use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) to rip WAV and flac files. I then use media monkey to rip (from WAV) to an MP3 file.

The WAV file is for archive purposes.
The FLAC file works with the Oppo and Android devices.
The MP3 works on a phone (and indeed just about anything).

Another benefit of media monkey is synchronising to your portable devices (eg phone, tablet etc) and it's also a pretty handy server (although I now use the built in server on my NAS).

cheers
blairy
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^Why not skip WAV and archive with FLAC as well?
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^Why not skip WAV and archive with FLAC as well?

That's what I do - in fact,when I buy a download from HDtracks or iTrax I buy the FLAC - it's the best quality option at HDtracks; at iTrax you can buy a PCM file (which is what a WAV file really is) for a higher price because it's a more time-consuming download.

Since it's easy to play a FLAC and burn a CD or write MP3s starting from FLACs (Winamp does all three with ease, and I'm sure many other programs do as well), I see no advantage to archiving with WAV - only downsides: (1) no metadata and (2) more storage space needed.

Since the Oppo can play FLACs over a network, and the smaller file size is more LAN-friendly, I rip CDs to FLAC and buy music as FLACs whenever possible.

Phil
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