Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 808

thank you Bill
It was driving me crazy trying to figure out what was going on.

I need some help with a codec problem. I've been trying to play some mkv files but they only show up as a blue screen w/ or w/o sound. VLC plays the files just fine.
Codecs are video:

h264 - mpeg-4 avc (part 10) (avc1)

audio:

A52 Audio (aka AC3) (a52)

Anyone else encountered this problem? I saw that someone else mentioned this about a year ago, but couldn't find any resolution to the issue. Thanks for any help!

Depending on which firmware version you have, the Oppo might not like header compression on the mkv: try remuxing the mkv with header compression off using mkvtoolnix.

H264 has flexible encoding parameters, not all of which can be supported by the Oppo decoder: VLC and other PC based decoders will generally handle a lot more encoding variation than the Oppo. Either locate a more standard encoded version of the material or re-encode yourself to a supported standard.

It looks like you are correct: I have been interpreting EX as "extensions" or an acronym for DD+, when DD+ would actually be identified as E-AC3.

It's surprising receivers have an issue with DD EX 5.1 as it's a standard discrete channel arrangement, just with a flag identifying a matrixed rear channel: at worst it would be viewed as a plain 5.1

Damm, I was hoping for a new feature!

Downloaded the program. Muxed one of the files. Not sure which header I should try to remove. I've never used this software before. Any pointers? Thanks!

Does the 93 have Cinavia?

No, and it can't be added via firmware. :-)

Good deal! Thanks.

I just got my new Oppo 105 and have a custom rack shelf for the Oppo 93 made by Middle Atlantic if anyone is interested.

PM me.

^ To broaden your market a bit, that shelf would also work fine with a BDP-103.

Actually a member on another forum says that he has a recent Bluray with an E-AC3 7.1 German soundtrack, but it is an isolated soundtrack and not an embedded companion to a TrueHD soundtrack.

Hi to all of you experienced and informed types,

Whoo-hooo!! I got one after what felt like years of drooling.

Damn near caused the Fed-Ex kid to stroke out today. I was happy, the kid was scared. Or, at least startled... He thought this over-the-hill bald guy was going to give him a "bro-hug". Nope, just my delight at having Dad's xmas present delivered less than 55hrs after I telephoned my order for a refurb from OPPO. Just wanted to gain possesson of that lovely OPPO box before he tripped over something in my driveway!!

My question- Is there a justification for sending video via HDMI #1 to the Mitsu and audio via HDMI #2 to Yamaha VS just HDMI #1 to Yamaha for audio and having that same HDMI passed through for video to Mitsu DLP? The switchology should work out ok for convienience's sake, but I'm honestly unsure that it is worth the hassle. Your thoughts please.

I am replacing an otherwise flawless rig in The Boss's theater (not mine, I'm married) comprised of DLP Model 837 Mitsubishi 65", Yamaha RXV-765 (5.1 Paradigm Monitors), Pioneer BD-51fd supplemented by OPPO DV-980h. Thought I was going to put both the Pio BD and OPPO 980h out into the wild via craigslist to recoup @ 1/2 cost of BDP-93. Second thoughts about the old OPPO...

And, a sort of question- I had already planned to release the quite excellent Pioneer BD-51fd to craigslist, as I have an identical 2nd unit at the family rm TV doing truly GREAT DVD upscaling. Originally I thought to do the same for the perfect DV-980h that had been doing 99% audio duty (CD's, and for the last year or so MLP rips via USB) but have had 2nd thoughts. BDP-93 won't do MLP's from consumer source material. Also, the unit is just blooming perfect. Never a flaw. Well maintained. Plays Chinese "Pop-So's" (soap-operas) for the wife. Endlessly flexible, albeit a less than stellar upscaled video output. I need someone to talk me down. To keep, or not to keep?

Regardless, I'll be spending some time splelunking the previous 800+ pages of passion.

Best to all,
Mike K

There is no reason to use both HDMI outputs unless you have one of the few situations where it's necessary. The main example is the case where you want to do 3d and you have an AVR that can't pass 3d video. Stick with the simple and obvious short of a clear reason to do otherwise.

P.S.; fight4yu has pointed out that another reason for using a second HDMI port would be either an AVR with faulty or unnecessary video processing. A third reason might be owner paranoia.
Edited by htwaits - 1/5/13 at 12:51am

In general the less the video chain have to go through the better it is. Your Yamaha AVR might add processing to it that you don't like. I say go experimenting and see.. I did the separate route as my receiver had some 24p bugs in it, and I don't want another receiver to mess with the clean video signal from Oppo.

my Yamaha 665 doesn't play nicely with my oppo 93,I have to run HDMI 1 to my TV and HDMI 2 to the 665 for audio otherwise I get severe handshaking issues.

Only reason I'm not upgrading to 103

I believe that really depends on the capabilities of your AV receiver. In my case (Anthem MRX-500) Jeff Meier showed me that there was indeed a small amount of video signal loss going through the receiver. Whether this is visible is up for debate, but it was enough for me to run HDMI 1 direct to my Panasonic VT50 and HDMI 2 to the Anthem for audio. Your receiver may do a capable job in which case I wouldn't bother using 2 HDMI cables.

I actually just DID upgrade to a 103 (keeping my 93 as well, and donating my 83 as a new house gift to a good friend who just got an 80" Sharp and needs a BluRayplayer).

I had bought the 93 because I needed two HDMI outputs, one specifically for audio to deliver decoded LPCM out over HDMI to my Smyth Realiser (headphone virtual-surround processor) which requires decoded discrete multi-channel LPCM via its HDMI input.

But I still have other HDMI source devices (Media Center Extender from my HTPC, and JVC DH100U DVHS VCR) which don't contain the ability to decode multi-channel to LPCM output on their HDMI as the BluRay players do. So these devices were sending still-encoded DD5.1 audio via HDMI to my Yamaha RX-V867 AVR, which was decoding and putting out its discrete multi-channel output on its 8-channel analog preamp outputs, feeding the Smyth Realiser via its alternative 8-channel analog inputs.

But ideally, I would have loved to feed the Realiser decoded LPCM from ALL of my sources... if possible.

Well, the BDP-103 provides exactly that capability. With its new external HDMI inputs I can now connect the HDMI output of the other two devices to the two external HDMI inputs on the BDP-103. And the video portion of these external HDMI inputs will now be processed by the BDP-103 (just like a BluRay disc would be) and will go out HDMI-1 to an HDMI input on my dual-HDMI-output Yamaha AVR (so that I can send its HDMI-1 output to my new Panny 65VT50 and its second HDMI-2 output to my Sony 34XBR960, allowing me to choose either display device as I feel in the mood for). I'm assuming (and hoping) that the Yamaha AVR will not tamper with (and degrade) the video signal from the BDP-103 relaying it back to the 65VT50, because I don't want to lose this flexibility to feed HDMI to both 65VT50 and 34XBR960.

And the audio portion of these external HDMI inputs to the BDP-103 will now also be processed by the BDP-103 (again, just as BluRay discs would be) and delivered as decoded discrete LPCM to HDMI-2 and then on directly to the HDMI input of the Realiser (not going through the AVR at all).

So the Realiser will now finally be using its "optimal input" (i.e. discrete multi-channel LPCM via HDMI, which avoids an analog-to-digital conversion which is needed with its analog inputs) for ALL of my digital sources, not just for BluRay discs. Previous to the BDP-103 I only had HDMI input possible for BluRay movies, with discrete multi-channel analog audio input (decoded by the AVR and delivered out over its preamp outputs) forced when the Extender or DVHS VCR was the source input .


I only need to play true retail commercial BluRay discs as well as home-made BD+R BDMV "compilations" from OTA/ATSC copy-freely HDTV, and have no issue at all with Cinavia being present. It won't affect me at all, just as the disappearance of all analog video output on the BDP-103 won't affect me at all.

My oppo 93 does not recognize my western digital My book Essentials 3 tb external hard drive.
This does come with a usb3 port on the external drive box and a cable to connect that usb3 port to a usb2 port.
I connected, using that cable, to the usb input of the oppo.
The oppo display shows USB was recognized but nothing shows up on the screen in the home menu.
is it the connection because its usb 3?
or is it the size of the hard drive being 3 tb?

It's the size. You can't go larger than 2TB. The USB3 is not a problem since the Oppo will treat it as a USB2. Some people managed to use a HDD larger than 2 TB reformating the disk in 2 parts, 1 with 2TB and other with the rest.
Edited by slimoli - 1/5/13 at 10:16am

It's due to the 2TB size limitation and partition table used.
Edited by duc135 - 1/5/13 at 10:42am

I'm guessing it is actually the partition table. A disc larger than 2TB will be using GPT which the -93 does not support. See the FAQ for more: What partition tables are supported on attached hard drives?

-Bill

Yes, that has been one of the format capabilities of BD all along. Like TrueHD, DD+ can be used as long as there is also a "mandatory" track on the disc.

Thanks for the correction Bill. I meant to say partition table and not formatting. My post has been corrected.

Thanks Bill! I wish I had posted this question, before I spent hours troubleshooting!

Hello fellow Oppo BDP-93 owners. I wanted to ask your reccomendations on USB hubs so that I can connect more then just 2 portable USB powered 2.5" hdd's.

I use those because I can easily move them from the Oppo to pc and other devices and that they are USB powered so don't need a separate power cord. I use WD passports and similar seagate free agent go flex 2.5" portable USB powered drives.

I realize that the USB hub will likely have to be plugged in but that I can leave in place and just swap in and out the hdd's.

Also how many hdd can the Oppo view/display? Right now I am obviously limited to 2 via front and back USB port.

I will want to connect the USB hub to te back port.

Any that are confirmed working with the Oppo and multiple 2.5" portable USB powered hdd would be in the running. Just name of the USB hub would suffice and I can search for best price myself but mention of where from (new egg, amazon, eBay etc.) welcome as well.

Thanks in advance and I Look forward to hearing what USB hubs everyone is using with their Oppo BDP-93.
Edited by Quatre - 1/5/13 at 9:06pm

Appreciation to:
htwaits, fight4yu, alf56-2009 and scirica

htwaits said: There is no reason to use both HDMI outputs unless you have one of the few situations where it's necessary. The main example is the case where you want to do 3d and you have an AVR that can't pass 3d video. Stick with the simple and obvious short of a clear reason to do otherwise.

P.S.; fight4yu has pointed out that another reason for using a second HDMI port would be either an AVR with faulty or unnecessary video processing. A third reason might be owner paranoia.


fight4yu said: In general the less the video chain have to go through the better it is. Your Yamaha AVR might add processing to it that you don't like. I say go experimenting and see.. I did the separate route as my receiver had some 24p bugs in it, and I don't want another receiver to mess with the clean video signal from Oppo.


alf56-2009 said: my Yamaha 665 doesn't play nicely with my oppo 93,I have to run HDMI 1 to my TV and HDMI 2 to the 665 for audio otherwise I get severe handshaking issues.


scirica said: I believe that really depends on the capabilities of your AV receiver. In my case (Anthem MRX-500) Jeff Meier showed me that there was indeed a small amount of video signal loss going through the receiver. Whether this is visible is up for debate, but it was enough for me to run HDMI 1 direct to my Panasonic VT50 and HDMI 2 to the Anthem for audio. Your receiver may do a capable job in which case I wouldn't bother using 2 HDMI cables.


Mike K replys: HT, Fight4, alf and scirica-Thanks.

Whilst acknowledging the paranoia factor, I must also bow to the simple truth that more connections increase opportunity for signal degradation.
Whether the Y-765 has a dirty video "Pass-thru" is not determined at this point. I suspect that the Y-665 is quite different than the Y-765 in digital video (I don't believe that the 665 could up-convert and up-scale to HDMI) and, like the *63 series, has some HDMI issues that haven't shown up on the AVS 765 thread yet.
Having said all that, I have'nt anything else to do with the HDMI # 2 output anyways, and might as well. Paranoria be DAMNED!

Hey, if it might lead to a better visual experience (which we all promise our families and ourselves, eh?) then it must all be worth it. Right?


Mike K

A few downside of using dual HDMI you want to be aware of though is:
1) you will lose any OSD from your receiver.. if that matters to you.
2) In my case, Oppo does not play nice in my quite convoluted case (I have Oppo out1 goes to VP, out2 goes to AVR. However, my VP out then also goes to one of AVR input), and it ended up getting confused with my HDMI EDID so only output 2 channel PCM to the AVR. I ended up swapping some sources from the VP to the AVR.. and then Oppo works with both output.

So, again, try and see

@Quatre:
I use a Belkin Travel Hub (4 port USB powered), p/n F4U006 (red) with 4 2TB powered drives attached.

BTW/FYI for your further consideration -
I also use a 2 port USB Lindy switch p/n 42795, this way I don't have to plug and un-plug drive(s) from USB hub to my Win7 box and back again.

The only caveat for me was, I had to connect the Lindy device to the USB 3.0 port on the rear of my mobo, otherwise I would get write errors on the HD or sometimes the HD would 'time out / go to sleep' in the middle of a file transfer.

According to the USB specs 'A device may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB 2.0; 6 (900 mA) in USB 3.0.'
At least it worked for me. OTOH, it may be my rear USB 2.0 ports on my mobo maybe slightly underpowered.

Regards