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post #24271 of 25193
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Originally Posted by exm View Post

How does the 93 QDEO compare to the Toshiba XA2 HD DVD Silicon Optix Reon-VX chip for upsampling? I've been using my XA2 exclusively for DVDs and never actually considered using the 93.

 I have both the 93 & the XA2 and there is very little difference. (Certainly not worth the hassle of physically changing the cables, as I do not have enough inputs on my 80.3 for all of my devices)

post #24272 of 25193
The issue I have is due to the Qdeo chip doing something to 1080/24p streams, they don't just pass through and eventually it leads to a frame jump.
Source Direct is my work around.
post #24273 of 25193
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

I knew I was in over my head by just speculating as to the explanation for the results...
But I honestly feel that the results do speak for themselves. I definitely feel (and I don't think this is placebo) that the picture quality on my 34XBR960 from HDTV is now SUPERIOR when being routed from the DMA2100 through the external input of the 103 and then on to the AVR, rather than when the DMA2100 is directly connected to my AVR.
So that's why I thought the 103 must have been doing something to the HDTV video, and I assumed it therefore must have been its video electronics. In other words, if the same "noise reduction and contrast enhancement" is being applied to the external HDMI input (in this case, ordinary MPEG-2 HDTV) why wouldn't I expect some improvement in the picture when "corrected" by the 103, as compared to the "raw" un-corrected feed from DMA2100 direct through the AVR?
Just how it appears to me.

I did not mean to say you did not see an improvement, but it's more than likely due to the performance of MediaTek decoder chip. The noise reduction, contrast enhancement , and 4K scaling are off by default and must be enabled to use those features. I also have found the picture of the 103 to be very different from the 93.
post #24274 of 25193
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

I'm guessing the video processing in the 93 is superior to that of the 83

Not necessarily. There are limits as to what can be done and we've been close to the limit for a while now.

Blu-ray requires very little extra video processing and for DVD some people like the ABT solution in the -83 better than the QDEO used in the -93 and -103. Both are very capable implementations.

-Bill
Ditto.
post #24275 of 25193
I checked the FAQ but didn't see this: What is the point of the screen size in the 3D section? And is that diagonal? Does it assume I am talking about my 16:9 image (I have a 2:37 screen, but I assume the player would be wanting me to tell it my 16:9 size).
post #24276 of 25193
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

I checked the FAQ but didn't see this: What is the point of the screen size in the 3D section? And is that diagonal? Does it assume I am talking about my 16:9 image (I have a 2:37 screen, but I assume the player would be wanting me to tell it my 16:9 size).

I've never heard a good explanation of that one, so I just put 65 in there for my P65VT50.
post #24277 of 25193
^ As I understand it, the parameter is used to adjust the 3D placement such that the zero depth position better aligns with the plane of the viewing screen. The value to enter is the diagonal screen size of your 16:9 (or equivalent) screen. Using the wrong value won't make all that much difference. This is just a refinement.

NOTE: I don't use 3D myself, so take any 3D advice I offer with a grain of salt.
--Bob
post #24278 of 25193
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Originally Posted by exm View Post

How does the 93 QDEO compare to the Toshiba XA2 HD DVD Silicon Optix Reon-VX chip for upsampling? I've been using my XA2 exclusively for DVDs and never actually considered using the 93.

I own both and both are extremely good but I prefer the XA2 for upscaling.

For DVD upscaling and having owned all three I would rate them in the following order:

1) Reon(XA2)
2) ABT(BDP83)
3) QDEO(BDP93)

Just my opinion.
post #24279 of 25193
Hello,

Does anybody has problems playing (start menu not loading properly) with One Fine Day and French Kiss blu-ray discs on the OPPO BDP-93? The release date for them was on tuesday 01/08/2013

Regards,
post #24280 of 25193
Hello,

Does anybody has problems playing (start menu not loading properly) with One Fine Day and French Kiss blu-ray discs on the OPPO BDP-93? The release date for them was on tuesday 01/08/2013

Regards,
post #24281 of 25193
Thread Starter 
Ensure that you have the latest firmware release installed.

Perform an Erase BD-Video Data (Device Setup->Persistent Storage) and disable BD-Live (Network Setup).

Turn off the player then turn it back on.

Load the BD again. Does it still fail?
post #24282 of 25193
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Ensure that you have the latest firmware release installed.

Perform an Erase BD-Video Data (Device Setup->Persistent Storage) and disable BD-Live (Network Setup).

Turn off the player then turn it back on.

Load the BD again. Does it still fail?

Hello Neuromancer,

I just perform all the steps, still fail to load the menu properly with "One fine day" blu-ray and takes more time than normal to load with "French Kiss" blu-ray

Both disc were released by Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment on January 8 2013

Should I contact OPPO customer service with this issue?

Thank you.

Regards,
post #24283 of 25193
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Originally Posted by wesslan1 View Post

Only reason I'm not upgrading to 103 biggrin.gif

I actually bought a 103 the day they came out. Loved it, sound & video are awesome. But, I hated the fact it had Cinavia. Was lucky enough to find a brand new 93, arriving tomorrow. So I sold the 103, hoping for similar performance from the 93.

How do you guys feel about running analog outputs to the receiver? I have an Onkyo 809, went straight HDMI with the 103, but have read some people commenting that running analog for audio is better.
Thanks for any advice on the best way to hook it up.
post #24284 of 25193
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The ORemote App (for On kyo AVR etc) has now been updated to include IP control of Oppo - with an iPad version too - see attached.

It works very well. The display gets feedback only if connected via Serial Port though - a limitation of the player I believe. But it makes using the combination of the two that bit slicker.
post #24285 of 25193
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

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The ORemote App (for On kyo AVR etc) has now been updated to include IP control of Oppo - with an iPad version too - see attached.

It works very well. The display gets feedback only if connected via Serial Port though - a limitation of the player I believe. But it makes using the combination of the two that bit slicker.

I've been using the Oppo iPhone app quite a bit lately. Very handy.
post #24286 of 25193
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

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The ORemote App (for On kyo AVR etc) has now been updated to include IP control of Oppo - with an iPad version too - see attached.

It works very well. The display gets feedback only if connected via Serial Port though - a limitation of the player I believe. But it makes using the combination of the two that bit slicker.

Thanks for posting that!

Do I understand correctly that it uses BOTH the player's serial port AND networking to control the player and get feedback?
--Bob
post #24287 of 25193
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Originally Posted by sperezmore View Post

Hello Neuromancer,

I just perform all the steps, still fail to load the menu properly with "One fine day" blu-ray and takes more time than normal to load with "French Kiss" blu-ray

Both disc were released by Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment on January 8 2013

Should I contact OPPO customer service with this issue?

Thank you.

Regards,

Yes, you should email OPPO Tech Support with the details. If possible, please include the bar code number from the packaging (including the tiny digits at each end) so they can be sure they are checking the exact same pressing of these titles that you are having problems with.

It is possible that you were just unfortunate enough to get two faulty discs. If you have a chance to check them in another player, that would be a good next step while waiting for OPPO to get back to you.

Neuromancer had you turn BD-Live OFF in the OPPO, which is usually the right thing to do. But be aware that there are some poorly authored discs out there which will not work unless BD-Live is ON -- even if you don't actually have networking connected! So that would be another thing to try while you are waiting, i.e., turn BD-Live ON and try again.

FOX has a long history of experimenting with new disc authoring complexities to foil disc copiers -- without regard to whether it screws up people trying to use the discs normally. You may have encountered a new example of this sort of stupid studio programmer tricks.
--Bob
post #24288 of 25193
For those of you who are seeking to add more hard drives to your OPPO, via USB and are considering a usb hub, you might also consider a four bay or eight bay enclosure.
I used a four bay unit by Mediasonic hf2-su2s2. Prefered it to the USB hub solution.
Now I upgraded to the eight bay version of the same brand.
I liked the Mediasonic - because because it has a sync button, which would turn the enclosure on/off with oppo being turned on/off.
All the four bays show up as independant usb drives, in the oppo.
Perhaps there are other brands also, which would do it but I know this brand worked for me..
post #24289 of 25193
Stupid problem, not sure what I messed up.

I was trying to get both HDMI cables to work while providing DD5.1 sound (failed), and when I *thought* I put things back the way they were, apparently I messed up.

Currently I am getting only multi-channel sound. I have only HDMI1 connected. I have Primary video set to HDMI1 and HDMI Audio set to Auto (and if I select Bitstream it makes no difference). If I put in a DTS 7.1 disk (Hunger Games), AVR reads Multi-Channel 7.1. If I put in a DD5.1 disk, AVR reads Multi-Channel.

If I put these disks in another player, respectively they read DTS HD7.1 and DD5.1, so it is not my receiver.

What stupid idiot mistake am I making?mad.gifeek.gif
post #24290 of 25193
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Originally Posted by audvid View Post

All the four bays show up as independant usb drives, in the oppo.

So you can access any track from any of the 4 or 8 drives simultaneously? I assume this is to get around the 2TB limit?
post #24291 of 25193
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

Stupid problem, not sure what I messed up.

I was trying to get both HDMI cables to work while providing DD5.1 sound (failed), and when I *thought* I put things back the way they were, apparently I messed up.

Currently I am getting only multi-channel sound. I have only HDMI1 connected. I have Primary video set to HDMI1 and HDMI Audio set to Auto (and if I select Bitstream it makes no difference). If I put in a DTS 7.1 disk (Hunger Games), AVR reads Multi-Channel 7.1. If I put in a DD5.1 disk, AVR reads Multi-Channel.

If I put these disks in another player, respectively they read DTS HD7.1 and DD5.1, so it is not my receiver.

What stupid idiot mistake am I making?mad.gifeek.gif

I will reset the Oppo... pull power cord and wait for 10second. (Power off your AVR as well).
post #24292 of 25193
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

Currently I am getting only multi-channel sound. I have only HDMI1 connected. I have Primary video set to HDMI1 and HDMI Audio set to Auto (and if I select Bitstream it makes no difference). If I put in a DTS 7.1 disk (Hunger Games), AVR reads Multi-Channel 7.1. If I put in a DD5.1 disk, AVR reads Multi-Channel.

Make sure you have the player set to Secondary Audio of OFF and HDMI Audio set to Bit Stream, not AUTO or LPCM under Audio Format Setup of the player.
post #24293 of 25193
^I had secondary audio set to on. I turned it off and that fixed it. Thanks Neuromancer. Why not leave HDMI audio on Auto?
post #24294 of 25193
I'm trying to play Dredd in 3D on my oppo and I'm getting a black screen with a green line through it. It plays fine in 2D. My oppo is up to date and plays other 3D movies fine. Dredd plays fine in 3D on my PS3. I have a duel HDMI set up. Is anyone else having an issue with this?
post #24295 of 25193
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Originally Posted by MagnificentBaker View Post

I'm trying to play Dredd in 3D on my oppo and I'm getting a black screen with a green line through it. It plays fine in 2D. My oppo is up to date and plays other 3D movies fine. Dredd plays fine in 3D on my PS3. I have a duel HDMI set up. Is anyone else having an issue with this?
I only had the exact same problem when I archived the disc to a hard drive with Anydvd HD using my usual default settings to remove everything but the movie.

When I re-ripped it after turning off all the settings that eliminate the extraneous crap, it works fine. The disc itself also works fine.


Max
post #24296 of 25193
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Do I understand correctly that it uses BOTH the player's serial port AND networking to control the player and get feedback?
--Bob

No, it's either one or the other.

For the 93, feedback is only received on Serial. I have requested the developer populates that Tab of the App with duplicate Audio / Video info from the AV Tab, when controlled by Ethernet.

Else the display area of the App is blank, and looks a bit bare.
post #24297 of 25193
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

No, it's either one or the other.

For the 93, feedback is only received on Serial. I have requested the developer populates that Tab of the App with duplicate Audio / Video info from the AV Tab, when controlled by Ethernet.

Else the display area of the App is blank, and looks a bit bare.

Yes, I got this request and am looking at it. It went out as-is because the goalposts for release kept moving and adding the additional display would probably add another week to the development time - and I had a nagging bug that needed to be fixed in the then-current release. I also read in the Oppo protocol sheet that two-way feedback is coming over IP. If it does, this is where I am going to populate the data. Serial control is pictured below.

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post #24298 of 25193
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Originally Posted by MagnificentBaker View Post

I'm trying to play Dredd in 3D on my oppo and I'm getting a black screen with a green line through it. It plays fine in 2D. My oppo is up to date and plays other 3D movies fine. Dredd plays fine in 3D on my PS3. I have a duel HDMI set up. Is anyone else having an issue with this?

I am having the same problem with this title. I am not using dual HDMI. And like you I am not having any problems with other recent 3D titles.
post #24299 of 25193
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Originally Posted by rworne View Post

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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

No, it's either one or the other.

For the 93, feedback is only received on Serial. I have requested the developer populates that Tab of the App with duplicate Audio / Video info from the AV Tab, when controlled by Ethernet.

Else the display area of the App is blank, and looks a bit bare.

Yes, I got this request and am looking at it. It went out as-is because the goalposts for release kept moving and adding the additional display would probably add another week to the development time - and I had a nagging bug that needed to be fixed in the then-current release. I also read in the Oppo protocol sheet that two-way feedback is coming over IP. If it does, this is where I am going to populate the data. Serial control is pictured below.

iOS Simulator Screen shot Dec 27, 2012 7.03.43 PM.png 556k .png file

I don't believe two way IP is possible in the 93/95 hardware. It is coming for the 103/105 hardware. So the 93/95 will likely need to be handled specially.
--Bob
post #24300 of 25193
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I don't believe two way IP is possible in the 93/95 hardware. It is coming for the 103/105 hardware. So the 93/95 will likely need to be handled specially.
--Bob

I don't know what capability ay may have, but it already handshakes, so it can definitely send and receive data OK. Still, the only issue I've seen with it so far is that their app does not follow the protocol sheet they released. Following that document will lead to a bunch of problems regarding how the connect/signon procedure goes.

Now I'm looking to get a 103 once they sort out the network protocol..
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