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The menu comes up - sometimes with both 2D and 3D options - sometimes with only 2D - once it claimed I didn't have 3D enabled equipment. When pushing the 3D start (when available) it shows the film in 2D. The suggesti
on of starting in 2D then going to the menu and re-selecting 3D did work. I am on auto-3D selection at the moment.
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The menu comes up - sometimes with both 2D and 3D options - sometimes with only 2D - once it claimed I didn't have 3D enabled equipment. When pushing the 3D start (when available) it shows the film in 2D. The suggesti
on of starting in 2D then going to the menu and re-selecting 3D did work. I am on auto-3D selection at the moment.
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The menu comes up - sometimes with both 2D and 3D options - sometimes with only 2D - once it claimed I didn't have 3D enabled equipment. When pushing the 3D start (when available) it shows the film in 2D. The suggesti
on of starting in 2D then going to the menu and re-selecting 3D did work. I am on auto-3D selection at the moment.
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Thread Starter 
Holy multiple-posting Batman!

If the player is displaying a message that the display was not 3D compliant, then you need to set 3D Mode (Video Setup) from AUTO to FORCED. This will force the player to output frame packed 3D, when available, bypassing any EDID handshake which may be failing.
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Holy multiple-posting Batman!

If the player is displaying a message that the display was not 3D compliant, then you need to set 3D Mode (Video Setup) from AUTO to FORCED. This will force the player to output frame packed 3D, when available, bypassing any EDID handshake which may be failing.
That's one way to pad a thread's post count.eek.gif Not that this thread really needs any help.wink.gif
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Not intentional on the Bat repeats - my apologies -
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I also have an Oppo BDP-93, and am having an issue playing 3D movies from a USB hard drive. I have ripped all of my 2D material to MKV on my unraid server, and it plays back fine, but my HTPC does not have an HDMI 1.4 jack so I don't think I can play 3D ISOs.

Anyway, I would like to also back up my 3D media digitally, but have no means to play it. I ripped Dredd 3D to my hard drive and copied the folder structure to a USB hard drive, using a folder scheme Dredd/AVCHD/Blu Ray Folders. The Oppo loads the disc just fine, gets to the menu, I choose 3D, but it looks like it plays the movie in 2D only. Can the Oppo actually play a 3D movie this way? I tried it with one of my IMAX Discs too which is in 3D and it also showed up in 2D. Is there something I need to do to make this work correctly? All of my 3D blu rays play 3D correctly when I put the actual disc in. I just am trying to find out if I can do it from USB instead.
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Tried 'Forced' - when the Lionsgate opening started after 3D was selected the player went to a dark screen with a single thin green line across the center. The player froze at that point and had to be turned off and back on just to get the drawer open.
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Originally Posted by TTSPOOK View Post

Tried 'Forced' - when the Lionsgate opening started after 3D was selected the player went to a dark screen with a single thin green line across the center. The player froze at that point and had to be turned off and back on just to get the drawer open.

Email the details to OPPO tech support. If possible, include the bar code number from the disc packaging (including the tiny digits at each end). Let them know what AVR and Display you are using and how you are cabled up (i.e., just HDMI 1 or dual cabling). Also tell them what you've tried (i.e., "Forced"), and what happened.

It looks like there is an authoring error on this new, 2D/3D combo disc. OPPO will have to dig into what's going on here.
--Bob
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Thread Starter 
Ensure that you are actually connected to a frame packed 3D display.

If you are going through a receiver, then direct connect the player to your display with HDMI 1 and to the receiver with HDMI 2.

Do you notice the same errors?

If yes, then replace your HDMI cable. Your cable may be defective or not seated properly.
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I've noticed the frame-drop problem too, but of course can't tell what is causing it or if it's even a problem with the equipment or the disc itself. Yes, I hope Oppo fixes it.
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Originally Posted by TTSPOOK View Post

Tried 'Forced' - when the Lionsgate opening started after 3D was selected the player went to a dark screen with a single thin green line across the center. The player froze at that point and had to be turned off and back on just to get the drawer open.

I just tried the trick mention earlier in starting out in 2D mode then wait till the movie starts after the logo screens go back to the main menu and then switch back to 3D and it worked no issues after that
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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

I've noticed the frame-drop problem too, but of course can't tell what is causing it or if it's even a problem with the equipment or the disc itself. Yes, I hope Oppo fixes it.

If you can establish a reproducible case, that will be helpful.
--Bob
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It can't be a repeatable case, its random.
People from Oppo just need to watch movies for a few days on the 93 all while making sure all resolutions are scaled to 1080p through the Qdeo chip.

Just watch like 4 movies, and keep watch for a momentary frame jump. Not too hard.
Anything that was made wrong can be made right again.
Edited by Fanboyz - 1/12/13 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by skiman24 View Post

I just tried the trick mention earlier in starting out in 2D mode then wait till the movie starts after the logo screens go back to the main menu and then switch back to 3D and it worked no issues after that

I picked up a copy of dredd. I was able to play it in 3d no problem on the oppo 93. I also got it from best buy. I am going thought directly to the tv, and not the receiver.

Jacob
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

It can't be a repeatable case, its random.
People from Oppo just need to watch movies for a few days on the 93 all while making sure all resolutions are scaled to 1080p through the Qdeo chip.

Just watch like 4 movies, and keep watch for a momentary frame jump. Not too hard.
Anything that was made wrong can be made right again.

No, that's not going to work. Until they can reproduce it reliably -- and I don't mean closely watch 4 hours of movie on the off chance it might happen -- there's no practical way to attack the problem, or even know if a candidate fix is actually working.

I'm not dismissing your finding. I'm just saying it will be shear luck if this gets fixed before someone finds a way to reproduce it more readily.

This of course is the same answer you got the last few times you posted on this. Nothing is going to change until there is new firmware (that "shear luck" comment above) or someone finds a test case.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I picked up a copy of dredd. I was able to play it in 3d no problem on the oppo 93. I also got it from best buy. I am going thought directly to the tv, and not the receiver.

Jacob

Interesting while I do have mine going through the receiver first I didn't think that would be causing the issue. I got my copy from amazon.
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Yeah but I found the issue the way I described, I don't see why others can't do the same.
It's patently obvious that these problems are tied to the last to updates to the Qdeo in some way.

My guess is that the Qdeo has reached it's operational limit, and passing 24 frame 1080p video overwhelms through the processor just it now.


Anyway how would you suggest one "reliably triggers" a momentary glitch that appears every 2 hours?
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

Anyway how would you suggest one "reliably triggers" a momentary glitch that appears every 2 hours?

The point is we have no suggestions for you. We can't help you. Most people reading this would consider one dropped frame every few hours to be inconsequential. You may disagree but we still can't help you.

You need to deal directly with OPPO. If they can't help you then you are out of luck.

-Bill
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but it isn't just me- the issue is widespread.
Don't you think this is worth even thinking about?
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

but it isn't just me- the issue is widespread.
Don't you think this is worth even thinking about?
What's there to think about? You and a few others have noticed the problem and reported it to Oppo. Until they can find a way to fix it (which typically requires a consistent way to reproduce the problem so that there's a way to confirm that the fix is good), there's nothing else to discuss. Talking about it here every other post isn't going to fix it and is just beating the poor dead horse to death again and again. Remember, nobody is saying that the problem doesn't exist but rather there's nothing we can do here in this thread to fix it.
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understood.
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

It can't be a repeatable case, its random.
People from Oppo just need to watch movies for a few days on the 93 all while making sure all resolutions are scaled to 1080p through the Qdeo chip.

Just watch like 4 movies, and keep watch for a momentary frame jump. Not too hard.
Anything that was made wrong can be made right again.

#1 - Have you Directly connected the OPPO 93 to the TV with a minimum of a 6' HDMI cable? (I actually find an 8' on the OPPO a better choice.)
#2 - Insert, and remove several times, the HDMI cable, at both ends, and then on the final insertion, make sure it's a snug fit.
#3 - Now spend several hours watching for the drop out again.
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wink.gif



its not an HDMI thing.
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Personally, I hope that Oppo replicates your issue and can address it. However, it's not an issue for over 90% of (that's a guess) so we may never know what it is.
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I think I have watched at least 500 BD movies on my BDP-93.
Both via real shiny discs, and via USB connected HD's reading ISO files.
Using HDMI1 direct to HDMI2 on the Sharp Elite 70". 6' Monoprice HDMI High Speed AWG28 cable (the cheap ones)
Audio is via the 7.1 analog outs.
I have never seen a frame dropped while watching any content.
But, if I am looking for just 1 frame dropped, could it be that I miss it if I blink my eyes?
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Do you watch with all resolutions in 1080p or Source Direct?

Also it wouldn't matter how many discs you watched, the issue only started with the late summer/early fall firmware.
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rworne: How did you get the IP protocol spec? I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Could you please post it or send it to me?
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I was given 3 files, all in AVI format. One of the files doesn't show in my network list. I can play the other 2 but can't see the third. Tried a usb stick, same results. I know this format is a container, but is there some way to see the details of the file? My goal is to re encoded it but don't know where to start. I have the old ISO fw.
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Originally Posted by Geezer View Post

I was given 3 files, all in AVI format. One of the files doesn't show in my network list. I can play the other 2 but can't see the third. Tried a usb stick, same results. I know this format is a container, but is there some way to see the details of the file? My goal is to re encoded it but don't know where to start. I have the old ISO fw.

They all have the same .avi extension?

There is a free utility called "mediainfo" which will give stats on the container and a/v codecs. You might compare the results for the good vs problem files.

-Bill
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