Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 819

eSATA is not hot pluggable. The player should be off, then turn on the HDD, then turn on the player.

I was reading about it in the book, and it explains it, thanks for wording it so I understand better. Works good now, except it won't play my ripped cd's, only downloaded music, damn always something.

It depends on how the 3D disc is authored: some permit playing the 3D as 2D, some do not (those that do not usually have a separate 2D disc).

Unfortunately the Oppo can not force a 3D disc to play as 2D, if it has been authored to prevent that. The only way you could do it is to rip the 3D disc and remove the prohibition, then play the copy. This is easier with ISO capability on the Oppo, otherwise you generally have to burn a disc. BDMV folders may or may not work with 3D, but it will take up more space than the original 3D disc or ISO.

It will depend on whether you ripped the CDs in a format the Oppo understands: that includes container, codec inside the container and parameters of the codec, being supported.

That's what I was just thinking, I just ripped to iTunes with standard settings. I wonder if I can just change the format or if I'll have to rip them again and specify what format I want? And will it change the sound quality?


Ok in my import settings in iTunes it's set to apple lossless encoder. Isn't this the same as their downloads?
Edited by comfynumb - 2/7/13 at 8:58am

Works perfect like you described, thanks.

If you have ripped your CD's to ALAC, then you have ripped into a lossless format. You can convert from ALAC to FLAC with zero difference. Some searching should find you some methods.

I don't really know about purchases from iTunes. This page might give you some clues to the type of files your downloaded if you purchased in itunes. This may be treading on off-topic territory (?). It seems you've got the Oppo side of the equation sorted out.

Yeah I'm good, I'm converting to WAV, thanks everyone for their help!

Keep in mind that WAV files won't include the metadata like FLAC files will (e.g. album art, song name, artist name, album, etc.). So if having that info displayed on your screen when playing your music, then you might want to consider converting to FLAC instead(plus there is a substantial savings in file size with FLAC compared to WAV).

It must have been lens flares. I haven't seen the latest Star Trek movie. The audio was fine because I always output LPCM. Thanks for the information about Total Recall.

Ok, I'm going to try some in each format before I put everything I own on in WAV form. Thanks!

I have more questions about which format to rip and convert my music too. I can't find much in the forums, unless I'm searching in the wrong place. Anyone know where to look?

sure. no problem.

Jacob

For the BDP-93, FLAC is the best choice for lossless compression. That assumes you mean to play it from attached storage.

I really can't stand Apple proprietariness and how it locks you into certain paths: open source wherever possible is my motto.

FLAC will give around 50% lossless compression over wav (and sort of like a zip file for music).

I wanted to do that, but my music was all in iTunes, so I ended up going with WAV. I know it's a bigger file, but I really liked the sound and honesty I couldn't tell the difference from the original. But just like the post above me states damn apple tries handcuffing you. Unless someone knows a easy way to convert them to FLAC from iTunes. I have NERO 10 and I know I can rip them in FLAC, but I'm unsure how to convert them, and that would be a long process.

Agreed, I'm getting a little tired of having to bow to them. FLAC just wasn't an option. I have a terabyte external hd so at least space isnt a problem.
Edited by comfynumb - 2/7/13 at 5:56pm

comfynumb,

Just google it! "Convert alac to flac". You will quickly learn that:

Foobar can do it. It's free.

Dbpoweramp can do it. Trial then pay.

Xrecode can do it. Free with "nag" screen.

I'm going to look into it today, thanks.

HERE is a great site to get you started...

As others have mentioned FLAC is the way to go.

I use dbpoweramp. It's awesome and would be perfect for converting all those wavs to FLAC.

Exactly what I was looking for thanks!

Cool, I'm going to try a couple different ones out today. Thanks.

ah, ok. Thanks for the reply...

FLAC is a lossless compression of the source file and so can never be better quality than the source, so is dependent on the source quality.

AFAIK, FLAC is basically a compressed form of wav file, so any conversion from other file types to FLAC probably involves converting that format to wav internally before compressing to FLAC.

Therefore it's perfectly fine to convert your wav files directly to FLAC, but the question is whether the wav file is a lossless representation of the original source. For example, it is possible to rip a CD track to an mp3 file and then convert mp3 to wav, but that wav file will have lower quality than a wav file ripped directly from the CD, because there has been lossy intermediate steps. Thus it is important to know the compression history of the files you are obtaining from iTunes.

Hi, with all of the conversion from one form to another, it seems like I'm better off picking one way to convert my ripped cd's and leaving it alone.

Yes. There's every reason to rip to FLAC going forward. But for the case of the files you already ripped to ALAC, it is fine to just convert them without re-ripping. ALAC is just another less-univerally-playable lossless format. You could rip a cd to FLAC and the same CD to ALAC, and then convert them both the WAV. The resulting WAV files would be identical. Converting between the two formats will be the same.

What IanD has said willl apply to the songs your purchased in iTunes. I don't know what format they come in, m4a/AAC? iTunes downloads are not lossless, and converting them to FLAC will probably increase their file size, but yield no benefit other than playability with more hardware/software. If this is still current, then the downloads are 256kbps compressed (lossy) files.

OH - I just reread the 93 FAQ - AAC and m4a are both supported, so no need to mess with the files you've purchased/downloaded in iTunes.

Yes iTunes downloads are ACC. I'm more concerned with ripping my cd's than the downloads. I also have NERO, which I don't use much, but I can rip them to FLAC in that program. I read that too, my only problem was the cd's I ripped in iTunes the past couple of years showed up in the 93, but wouldn't play them. I think it's called apple lossless. Weird but I had to convert them to play.

Hi all,

I am a newbie here, please do excuse me if similar has already been asked before.

I have bought BDP-93 for over a year but never had a 3D TV to test out its 3D capability.

I have recently bought a Sony HX850 and have connected BDP-93 to it using HDMI, but I am unable to play 3D content on TV using BDP-93. Here are some things I have tried:

1. I could play 3D media content from SEN
2. I have plugged the same HDMI cable to a PS3 and I could play 3D content using PS3, so seems the HDMI class type is not the issue here
3. I have set the 3D setting in BDP-93 to Auto already; from the TV side, the settings for this HDMI connection is the same as what I used for PS3

Has anyone ever experienced similar problem? I am really out of ideas at the moment, any troubleshooting tip would be welcomed!

CDs effectively store the songs as wav files on the disc: ripping them to wav or FLAC is lossless and the quality of either will be identical to that which is on the CD.

If iTunes provides songs as AAC (a lossy compression), then they have taken those original wav files from the CD and compressed them, throwing away some quality in the process, which you can never get back. AAC is similar to mp3 in this respect. Converting AAC or mp3 to wav or FLAC will never equal the quality of the original wav files on the CD and is sort of pointless, unless AAC or mp3 is not supported in the player and wav or FLAC is.

Apple also has their own version of FLAC called ALAC. It is possible to convert between wav, FLAC and ALAC without any loss of quality.

The problem with downloading any file is that you never know whether any filtering was performed on the original wav files from the CD before it was output to FLAC, ALAC, wav, etc. Although improbable and pointless, it is technically possible to rip a CD to mp3, convert the mp3 to wav and then convert the wav to ALAC or FLAC: although the output format is lossless, it does not tell you the quality of the data inside it, only that it reproduces that quality without further loss. Just as Bluray is a technically high quality format, it doesn't stop the studios from issuing a crap encode in that format, compared to the original film frames.

I guess the Oppo 93 does not support ALAC, so for playability you could convert them to wav or FLAC without additional quality loss.