Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 825

Lmao, I could really run with that comment but I fear I'd be moderated.

Yes, i did try this but i couldn't access the content on the disk. I got me another hub instead and this time a Belkin and now it works flawlessly. It appears like there was something wrong with the Dlink hub when connected to the Oppo.

Will HDDs of 3-4TB over a Network NAS be able to be accessed by the Oppo?

Yes. The player has no knowledge of the devices or file systems attached to the server, so there are no limitations.

-Bill

I tried a couple of different hubs with my Oppo before I got one that worked. The one that ended up working was a cheap non-powered hub that I use with three 2TB external HDDs. Don't know why one works and another doesn't, but I used one of those that didn't work with the Oppo on my pc and it has worked fine.

I'm using powered HDDs so I can get by with a non-powered hub.
Edited by scolumbo - 3/2/13 at 2:21pm

Good day everyone ,

I have an issue that i cannot resolve.

Until recently i had an Onkyo TX-NR709 to which i connected my oppo BDP-93. My display device is an Optoma HD20 connected to the main ou of the Onkyo. It often had problem handshaking hdmi on startup either falling back to analog or having to resync multiple times before locking in the signal .

But the strangest problem was if i wanted to play cd on the oppo. In order to be able to lock in the hdmi signal i had to change the Onkyo output to main sub . Never could figure out why

Anyhow yesterday i bought an Onkyo TX-NR818 and i am experiencing the sale issues when trying to listen to cd. If i leave the onkyo on main out it tries to lock in the hdmi signal but keeps retrying again and again without any success. If i shut down the Onkyo and power it up again it is able to lock in the hdmi but display no signal unless i switch back the main out to sub on the Onkyo

So i am telling myself that if i am getting the same issues on 2 diffrent Onkyo model there must something i am not configuring properly

If someone is experiening the same issues and was able to resolve it i would appreciate any help

Thank you


Alain

This may be of interest to BDP-93 owners who still run ISO enabled firmware. I've encountered my first problem with a Blu-ray copy. The problem is the DTS-HD MA 5.1 sound track. when I do a DVDFab Copy Blu-ray the front R and L channels are coming from the R and L surround speakers at extreme volume levels. There is so little center channel that speech can't be heard with a tolerable volume level. The disk in question is "Marvel's The Avengers" 2D from Paramount, and it plays fine when it's used as the source.

I've tried both of the latests DVDFab versions (8 & 9). Has anyone succeeded in making a valid ISO copy of this disk? Also, is there any other information that would indicate a new studio tactic?

I don't have that disc or I would try it. That seems like very strange behavior for a ripped ISO. I'll be curious if someone else can duplicate the error.

I was able to do a Clone Blu-ray ISO today using DVDFab's version 8.2.2.8. I tried both Full Disk and Main Movie options with version 9.0.2.8 and they finished without errors being reported, but the ISO files had corrupted audio.
Edited by htwaits - 3/6/13 at 12:01pm

I did a full ISO backup test of Marvel's The Avengers with AnyDVD HD and the ISO plays fine; however, my disc has a DTS-HD MA 7.1 sound track. The only 5.1 sound track is the Spanish DD. I do have a 7.1 system and all surround info sounds correct...

jidelite

Anyone notice that the disc drive will become noisier sometimes?
Like after watching a BD for a while?

^^^^ No!

Thanks for your reply. I wonder what the differences are between a full disk copy (failed with DVDFab), a clone copy (works with DVDFab), and your AnyDVD HD full disk copy that's working. The main reason I copy using the Main Move option (failed with DVDFab) is that I'm not interested in previews and special features. I hope that this isn't a new feature for Paramount Studio's Blu-ray releases.

Have you checked the DVDFab forums and release notes? They are busy people over there and often break and fix things.

-Bill

No, but I've carried on a correspondence with "Vivian" in Beijing. They have my log files and suggested trying the clone function in version 8.2.2.8 of DVDFab. It's interesting that they are maintaining very active updates to both version 8 and version 9 of DVDFab. I've used the Copy DVD and Copy Blu-ray modules since I upgraded from the BDP-83 to the 93. This is the first change in ISO file behavior that I've encountered.

I'll check out the DVDFab forums.

Without dragging this way off-topic, DVDFab8 is the established mostly stable product version. Fixes and new protection support are added as needed. The newer DVDFab9 appears to be a major rewrite both internally and with the UI and the release notes for v9 say a lot. Things that worked fine in v8 are not always working in v9 and so on. The changelog tends to be very lengthy. DVDFab8 is maintained while DVDFab9 appears to be more like a public alpha or beta product release IMO.

Personally, I use AnyDVD and just use the built-in function to rip to ISO and then play my ISOs from one of my external devices. Haven't had any issues. I'm not much of a fan of DVDFab.

I've used DVDFab8 for a long time (and DVDFab7 before that) and never had any issues. Updates seem to occur regularly, but then I've never been one to rush out and buy the latest Blu-ray releases, so maybe I don't run into problem discs until after its been updated to address the problem.

One reason I've always favored DVDFab was it will also rip DVD-A ISOs, while (I've been told anyway) AnyDVD will not.
Edited by scolumbo - 3/6/13 at 6:57pm

True enough. No, AnyDVD won't rip DVD-Audio to ISO. I don't deal with DVD-Audio ISO rips so this isn't something that impacts me. I focus on movies.

AnyDvd rips DVD-Audio to ISO.I made a couple copies of my PorcupineTree albums.

Really? I had no idea. Well, that's good news. I just never knew it could.

That's good to know. I may check out AnyDVD at some point, although I've ripped all of my DVD-As now, and there aren't many more coming out these days.

Steven Wilson has moved on to Blu-ray, although the King Crimson re-issues are still being released on DVD-A.

^^ yep the download era pretty much killed one of the best formats along with SACD.

High-resolution formats have largely succumbed to the MP3 crowd, plus DVD-A was always a misunderstood format by the masses. At least SACD survives, although mostly in 2-channel.

Surround music requires someone to actually sit and listen to music, which doesn't happen much any more.

Thankfully, Oppo and a handful of other companies are still making equipment to play these formats.

Absolutely correct. I'll never sacrifice quality for ease of use and Oppo knows there's a bunch of us like this. Half the people on AVS have an Oppo I think.

The ironic part is many folks are into high-resolution audio for movies, demanding DTS-HD MA and Dolby THD audio tracks, while they listen to music, which arguably benefits more from high-resolution than movies, with cheap earbuds.

Also, they'll sit through an entire movie with their 7.1 system for movie surround effects, but never try a surround music recording because it requires them to sit in the same sweet spot to fully appreciate an exquisite surround mix.

I'm hoping these are simple questions to answer. I have the Oppo BDP-93, Denon 3312CI AVR, and Klipsch 5.1 speakers. Both the AVR and the Oppo have provisions for setting up and configuring speakers. I have the Oppo connected to the AVR via HDMI cable.

My assumption is I just hook up the Oppo and do all my speaker configuration on the AVR. In short, ignore the Oppo's speaker setup since the speakers are not connected to the Oppo directly. Is there anything impacting speakers or audio out that I should be checking on the Oppo? What about Dynamic Range Compression? The AVR controls this as well so do I ignore the Oppo settings, too or should that be turned off. My thinking is if DRC is enabled on the Oppo then it may either be redundant or cause problems with the DRC on the AVR.

The Oppo's speaker setup screen only affects the analog (RCA) audio outputs. With an HDMI setup, you'd use the AVR's speaker setup - which applies to all sources.

Why in the world would you want to enable Dynamic Range Compression on either device? It's only function is to reduce the dynamic range - if you need to turn it down to avoid antagonizing others, ok, use DRC on your receiver so you don't lose the quieter passages, but otherwise, turn that setting OFF!

I have it disabled on the AVR. There is also a Dyn EQ feature which the guide here at AVS recommends leaving on. I checked the Oppo and it was enabled so I turned it off there as well. I've had this equipment for almost a year. The reason I'm asking these questions is that I have not adjusted anything since I first set it up. I have done the firmware updates but that is all. In the past couple days, I have noticed my volume has dropped. On the AVR I would set it around 50 (half way) for most listening (cable TV). Now I need to turn it up to around 55 or 60. For movies I need to push it up to 60 or more. I thought maybe something may have gone awry and when I started reviewing the settings, these questions came to mind.

Dynamic Range Control happens where DECODING happens for Bitstream tracks that include the needed meta-data. So if you are sending HDMI Bitstream output for Bitstream tracks, then the setting for Dynamic Range Control gets made in your AVR. If you are using LPCM output for Bitstream tracks, then the OPPO is doing the decoding and the setting in the OPPO is relevant.

Personally, I just set it to OFF in the OPPO and forget about it.

The Speaker Configuration settings in the OPPO (including the Crossover and Down-mix choices) have no impact on HDMI Audio output. Those settings are ignored for HDMI audio output. Make all speaker adjustments using the settings in your HDMI-equipped AVR.

One other setting to check is Secondary Audio. If using HDMI LPCM output you can leave Secondary Audio ON. If using HDMI Bitstream output you should set Secondary Audio OFF unless you actually want to use a Blu-ray disc feature that requires it (typically some Picture In Picture Commentary tracks). Secondary Audio mixing requires the track be decoded in the OPPO just as for LPCM output. But if you play a Bitstream track with HDMI Bitstream output, the result, after mixing in the Secondary Audio has to be RE-encoded back into a Bitstream for output. Since no consumer device has the horsepower to encode a lossless Bitstream on the fly, the OPPO uses a high bit-rate, but still lossy, DTS format for the re-encode.

If you play HDCD discs, you should also check the HDCD Decoding setting. The rule here is simple: If your AVR offers HDCD Decoding then you should turn HDCD Decoding OFF in the OPPO. Otherwise turn it ON in the OPPO.

If you play SACD discs, and your AVR is capable of accepting HDMI DSD input, then you also have to decide whether to use SACD Output PCM or DSD in the OPPO. I would suggest PCM because even if your AVR actually has the special DACs needed to do DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion, actually USING those will mean you have bypass any audio processing settings in your AVR. However, some folks want to use DSD nonetheless. Just understand what that means. For example, it likely means you will be bypassing any bass management (Crossover processing) in your AVR while using DSD.
--Bob