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post #24811 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Sony should be ashamed of themselves. The original disc should never have gotten out the door authored that way.

Ah well. If I recall correctly the workaround is to use HDMI LPCM or Analog audio output instead of HDMI Bitstream.

It's a good thing you don't have the more expensive Sony Blu-ray players, as the disc fails to play on them, too.
--Bob
I was under the impression that the audio dropout problem was related to the lossless soundtrack and the workaround was to simply play the lower quality lossy sountrack. You mean to tell me I coulda have watched this long ago in glorious lossless without a hitch?
post #24812 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

I was under the impression that the audio dropout problem was related to the lossless soundtrack and the workaround was to simply play the lower quality lossy sountrack. You mean to tell me I coulda have watched this long ago in glorious lossless without a hitch?

Yes. It's an issue only on HDMI Bitstream. This is true of several player and AVR models, but apparently not all.

-Bill
post #24813 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Sony should be ashamed of themselves. The original disc should never have gotten out the door authored that way.

Ah well. If I recall correctly the workaround is to use HDMI LPCM or Analog audio output instead of HDMI Bitstream.

It's a good thing you don't have the more expensive Sony Blu-ray players, as the disc fails to play on them, too.
--Bob
I was under the impression that the audio dropout problem was related to the lossless soundtrack and the workaround was to simply play the lower quality lossy sountrack. You mean to tell me I coulda have watched this long ago in glorious lossless without a hitch?

Yeah, this is a really weird one. It only affects BITSTREAM output. Evidently it has to do with the ridiculously complicated branching structure Sony deliberately authored into the disc to make life more difficult for disc copying software.

This despite the fact that this movie ALREADY has the most effective anti-copying feature of all -- i.e,. the movie is so bad it isn't worth copying.
--Bob
post #24814 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Sony should be ashamed of themselves. The original disc should never have gotten out the door authored that way.

Ah well. If I recall correctly the workaround is to use HDMI LPCM or Analog audio output instead of HDMI Bitstream.

It's a good thing you don't have the more expensive Sony Blu-ray players, as the disc fails to play on them, too.
--Bob

I can confirm - I was having audio drop-outs with Canadian edition of "Total Recall" but when I switched to HDMI LPCM in Oppo settings, problem got solved - no more audio drop-outs.
post #24815 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Yeah, this is a really weird one. It only affects BITSTREAM output. Evidently it has to do with the ridiculously complicated branching structure Sony deliberately authored into the disc to make life more difficult for disc copying software.

This despite the fact that this movie ALREADY has the most effective anti-copying feature of all -- i.e,. the movie is so bad it isn't worth copying.
--Bob
LOL I've seen that same sentiment expressed numerous times. Wifey is a BIG Colin Farrell fan so I guess we will be a watchin it anyway. Kate Beckinsale is kinda easy on the eyes as well even if she looks like she's ready to lay some hurt on ya.
post #24816 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

Most cable boxes that I've seen put a volume control bar on the TV's screen to watch as you adjust it - try the tv's own remote's volume control to make sure whether what you're seeing on screen is the TV's volume level display or the cable box's volume level display - if you never use either it's easy to mistake one for the other

--Phil.

Okay...here's the final word on my situation for the benefit of anyone who needs it. My system was not set up with DRC turned off on all components. I also did not have the Oppo output set to Bitstream so the AVR was decoding the audio signal. Lastly, the AVR surround mode was (in my opinion) not set optimally.

I had the cable box replaced. Comcast told me the one I had was outdated so my new box is HDMI. Whatever happened with the sound that started this whole thing I will never know. But I learned a lot more about my system and the proper setup between components to get the best performance. Volume levels (on a scale of 100) are now averaging around 55 for cable and 57.5 for movies for "normal" listening. The audio signal varies depending on channel and commercials. Sometime the sound drops significantly on one commercial then jumps back up on the next. A couple channels also exhibit this audio behavior.

Most recently with the new cable box it suddenly set itself to 720p and I had to go in and set it back to 1080i. That's the first time I ever had to do that, too.
post #24817 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

This despite the fact that this movie ALREADY has the most effective anti-copying feature of all -- i.e,. the movie is so bad it isn't worth copying.
--Bob
Ha ha exactly!!
post #24818 of 25196
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Originally Posted by scrapser View Post

Okay...here's the final word on my situation for the benefit of anyone who needs it. My system was not set up with DRC turned off on all components. I also did not have the Oppo output set to Bitstream so the AVR was decoding the audio signal. Lastly, the AVR surround mode was (in my opinion) not set optimally.

I had the cable box replaced. Comcast told me the one I had was outdated so my new box is HDMI. Whatever happened with the sound that started this whole thing I will never know. But I learned a lot more about my system and the proper setup between components to get the best performance. Volume levels (on a scale of 100) are now averaging around 55 for cable and 57.5 for movies for "normal" listening. The audio signal varies depending on channel and commercials. Sometime the sound drops significantly on one commercial then jumps back up on the next. A couple channels also exhibit this audio behavior.

Most recently with the new cable box it suddenly set itself to 720p and I had to go in and set it back to 1080i. That's the first time I ever had to do that, too.

This is pretty normal in my experience even playing CD's depending on the studio and the age recording levels can vary by up to 12dB some of the modern remastered releases of earlier music sound much louder but also in a lot of cases with what sounds like clipping distortion. But certainly on TV and radio stations you will find a great variation in volume levels usually the commercials are much louder than the main program for obvious reasons. In my opinion that is what a mute button is for smile.gif
post #24819 of 25196
^ It's now a violation for commercial stations to include commercials that are significantly louder than the program content on either side. That's new this year. There's even a federal web site where you can post complaints.

Mind you, there's no PENALTY for this type of violation at this point. But when the FCC collects enough complaints I imagine they'll do something with them. (The word "bonfire" comes to mind....)
--Bob
post #24820 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ It's now a violation for commercial stations to include commercials that are significantly louder than the program content on either side. That's new this year. There's even a federal web site where you can post complaints.

Mind you, there's no PENALTY for this type of violation at this point. But when the FCC collects enough complaints I imagine they'll do something with them. (The word "bonfire" comes to mind....)
--Bob

Hi Bob

Well I didn't know that about the US but here in the UK it has been an offence for quite a while, one or two still try it on and then get hammered with with various penalties and we get some peace again for a while. Problem is it is not really consistent because the regulator doesn't actually monitor the situation just waits till they have a bag full of complaints. But adding to my comments above lots of movies also have significant variations in sound levels and of course the Oppo 93 faithfully (and I would not expect any different) reproduces these differences in full with the occasional need to pick ourselves up from the back of the lounge smile.gif
post #24821 of 25196
Just bought a blu ray of Southern Comfort from Amazon.uk.com and tried to play it on my Oppo 93, it said region B - won't play.
Is there a universal code I can enter to make my oppo 93 play this disc.
Thanks for a reply
my e mail address: waynespobox@msn.com
WayneBruce.
post #24822 of 25196
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Originally Posted by waynebruce View Post

Just bought a blu ray of Southern Comfort from Amazon.uk.com and tried to play it on my Oppo 93, it said region B - won't play.
Is there a universal code I can enter to make my oppo 93 play this disc.
Thanks for a reply
my e mail address: waynespobox@msn.com
WayneBruce.

Probably not, you will have to do either a hardware or software solution to deal with non-Region A BRs and these have been mentioned previously.
post #24823 of 25196
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Originally Posted by waynebruce View Post

Just bought a blu ray of Southern Comfort from Amazon.uk.com and tried to play it on my Oppo 93, it said region B - won't play.
Is there a universal code I can enter to make my oppo 93 play this disc.
Thanks for a reply
my e mail address: waynespobox@msn.com
WayneBruce.

No, you need to have a region kit to make changes.

You can only play different region DVD's if you apply the firmware mod which is available free.
post #24824 of 25196
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Originally Posted by waynebruce View Post

Just bought a blu ray of Southern Comfort from Amazon.uk.com and tried to play it on my Oppo 93, it said region B - won't play.
Is there a universal code I can enter to make my oppo 93 play this disc.
Thanks for a reply
my e mail address: waynespobox@msn.com
WayneBruce.

Holy B-movie, Batman!

Surely you can solve this with one of your marvelous toys!

I don't have anything to add to what was said by others, but I couldn't resist being a joker.
post #24825 of 25196
Over in the VT50 settings thread, the consensus among the pro calibrators seems to be is to run the set at 60hz rather than 96hz for 1080/24p sources.

This begs a question about the Oppo DVD 24p Conversion feature. If the HDTV is set to 60hz for 1080/24p sources, then I would gather that there is no reason to enable the Oppo DVD 24p Conversion feature?

jdg
post #24826 of 25196
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

Over in the VT50 settings thread, the consensus among the pro calibrators seems to be is to run the set at 60hz rather than 96hz for 1080/24p sources.

This begs a question about the Oppo DVD 24p Conversion feature. If the HDTV is set to 60hz for 1080/24p sources, then I would gather that there is no reason to enable the Oppo DVD 24p Conversion feature?

jdg

I own the gt25. It doesnt have the 96. I use 48hz for blu rays and dvds. it works great on my gt25.

Jacob
post #24827 of 25196
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

Over in the VT50 settings thread, the consensus among the pro calibrators seems to be is to run the set at 60hz rather than 96hz for 1080/24p sources.

This begs a question about the Oppo DVD 24p Conversion feature. If the HDTV is set to 60hz for 1080/24p sources, then I would gather that there is no reason to enable the Oppo DVD 24p Conversion feature?

jdg

This is a loaded question best left to the display forums. But try it and see what you like best. One of the issues with earlier Panny plasmas wasn't so much the frame rate handling as is was general color and scaling processing when set to 96Hz, which degraded noticeably. So the reason for recommending 60Hz was that you get a better image, not better motion. The BEST advice is to hire a pro calibration and do what your calibrator recommends.
post #24828 of 25196
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

This is a loaded question best left to the display forums. But try it and see what you like best. One of the issues with earlier Panny plasmas wasn't so much the frame rate handling as is was general color and scaling processing when set to 96Hz, which degraded noticeably. So the reason for recommending 60Hz was that you get a better image, not better motion. The BEST advice is to hire a pro calibration and do what your calibrator recommends.

I agree that my calibrator suggested 60hz for picture primarily, but it was also a much better setting to reduce or eliminate "flicker". I almost called you out on your motion statement but then thought better of is since "motion" and "flicker" are two entirely different subjects.
post #24829 of 25196
I have an Oppo BDP 93. A couple of firmware upgrades ago I started running into an issue and I'm curious if anyone else is seeing this. My Oppo is running through a Rotel RSX 1560. When I'm watching TV through my DirectTV receiver, and want to switch to the DVD, if the Oppo is already turned on and I switch to that input, I don't receive video or audio through my system (just a black screen). If I turn my Oppo off then on again, it will work. Obviously that's a pain so I don't want to have to do that.

I haven't changed anything on my Rotel so I don't know if it's a Rotel issue or an issue with one of my previous Oppo firmware upgrades. Has anyone else experienced this with either the Rotel or Oppo?
post #24830 of 25196
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Originally Posted by jalbregts View Post

I have an Oppo BDP 93. A couple of firmware upgrades ago I started running into an issue and I'm curious if anyone else is seeing this. My Oppo is running through a Rotel RSX 1560. When I'm watching TV through my DirectTV receiver, and want to switch to the DVD, if the Oppo is already turned on and I switch to that input, I don't receive video or audio through my system (just a black screen). If I turn my Oppo off then on again, it will work. Obviously that's a pain so I don't want to have to do that.

I haven't changed anything on my Rotel so I don't know if it's a Rotel issue or an issue with one of my previous Oppo firmware upgrades. Has anyone else experienced this with either the Rotel or Oppo?

You're connected with HDMI, right? Try initiating a new handshake by toggling the Resolution on the remote. Switch to some other value and then back again. You should be able to see the values on the front panel.

If that works it's better than powering off, although I am not sure why the receiver and player are not communicating without a new handshake.

-Bill
post #24831 of 25196
Anyone else noticed skipped frames.
post #24832 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

Anyone else noticed skipped frames.

Shoot me now!
post #24833 of 25196
Sorry just thought it was safe to ask again a month later….
post #24834 of 25196
"It's deja-vu all over again!"
post #24835 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

Sorry just thought it was safe to ask again a month later….

No
post #24836 of 25196
I just heard that Oppo had released a new Public Beta for the 103 and 105 which allows them to play DSD files. What is the likelihood that Oppo will include this capability for the 93 and 95 in a future firmware release? I don't know if their hardware would permit such decoding, but it would sure be a nice addition!biggrin.gif
post #24837 of 25196
Thread Starter 
Incredibly unlikely. The hardware and software is too dissimilar.
post #24838 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Incredibly unlikely. The hardware and software is too dissimilar.

I didnt think it was possible.. but then you guys did add the 24P to dvds for the 93.

Jacob
post #24839 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Incredibly unlikely. The hardware and software is too dissimilar.

I didnt think it was possible.. but then you guys did add the 24P to dvds for the 93.

Jacob
This is a quibble, but Neuromancer and OPPO are not "you guys". Neuromancer is his own guy. biggrin.gif

Neuromancer and some other "owner/beta testers" only add clarity to the world of OPPO owners.
post #24840 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Incredibly unlikely. The hardware and software is too dissimilar.
Thanks for your reply, Neuromancer. I was hoping you might respond. Looks like I might be in the market for a new 103 soon!tongue.gif
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