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post #24991 of 26644
I am a bit confused by some of the things I read, so I apologize in advance if you think these have been previously addressed. Can someone please clarify if the following is now true for the OPPO 93:

1. The OPPO 93 will now get 5.1 Sound from Netflix?

2. The OPPO 93 will now get a 1080 picture from Netflix?

3. A Roku Streaming Stick will work on the OPPO 93? If it does where do you put it?

Thank you for helping clarifying this to me and I apologize if you consider these previously answered because some of the wording confused me.
post #24992 of 26644
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Originally Posted by Peachesbackwards View Post

I am a bit confused by some of the things I read, so I apologize in advance if you think these have been previously addressed. Can someone please clarify if the following is now true for the OPPO 93:

1. The OPPO 93 will now get 5.1 Sound from Netflix?

2. The OPPO 93 will now get a 1080 picture from Netflix?

3. A Roku Streaming Stick will work on the OPPO 93? If it does where do you put it?

Thank you for helping clarifying this to me and I apologize if you consider these previously answered because some of the wording confused me.

Answer: None of the above. The 103 and 105 have those capabilities, but not any prior Oppo.
Edited by Philnick - 4/20/13 at 7:13am
post #24993 of 26644
Thanks for your answer.
post #24994 of 26644
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The streaming applications prevent access to things like setup, zoom and picture adjustment, and do this by design. Oppo has no choice in the matter.

Thanks for the response. So you have to have something downstream of the Oppo perform the vertical stretch? Or does this restriction follow the video? IOW, is this a restriction only on the source that originates the streaming video, or does the restriction apply to everything in the chain?
post #24995 of 26644
A separate video processor will always be able to zoom the Oppo output. But that's a significant extra expense when the Oppo should be able to do it using the Qdeo on HDMI 1, regardless of what the Netflix app does.
post #24996 of 26644
^ The Netflix app seizes control of the player's User Interface. At that point it doesn't matter what the hardware might be able to do because the Netflix app doesn't allow any way for the user to command the hardware to do that.
--Bob
post #24997 of 26644
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Originally Posted by Adam-DiVine View Post

Thanks for the response. So you have to have something downstream of the Oppo perform the vertical stretch? Or does this restriction follow the video? IOW, is this a restriction only on the source that originates the streaming video, or does the restriction apply to everything in the chain?

This is only a restriction on the streaming application and the Oppo. A device downstream can alter the audio/video to what you want/need so long as the device has that capability.
post #24998 of 26644
This reminds me of the way the audio play functions (whether disk or network based) of my 93 block use of the info Display button (button 28 in the illustration in the manual) that would otherwise bring up the top and bottom of the screen status lines that show what the currently playing audio type is: number of channels, codec, and bit rate.

Is there any chance Oppo could be persuaded to not disable that button when acting as a music player?

-Phil
post #24999 of 26644
Thread Starter 
Most of the information that the DISPLAY/INFO button would show on the screen is useless when playing back music files, which is why the OPPO does not bring up this menu when engaging CD, SACD and user generated media playback.
post #25000 of 26644
Awesome, thanks! Unfortunately that means I will be parting with my dear Pioneer SC-25 and switching to an Onkyo NR809. It is the most economical way for me to get the stretching capabilities needed for my new lens.
post #25001 of 26644
Forgive me if this is an old question. I've recently put the BDP-93 back in service after having been out of my chain for a while, and this thread is too huge to search through.

If I connect HDMI output 2 direct to my projector for video and HDMI 1 direct to my receiver for audio, the player is not passing bitstream audio. I only get 2-channel PCM. If I switch and use HDMI output 1 for video and HDMI output 2 for audio, bitstreaming works. Is this normal?

I wanted to use HDMI 2 for video due to talk in the BDP-103 thread that the Qdeo chip adds non-defeatable DNR to HDMI 1 even if you use Source Direct and all Qdeo processing settings off. On the BDP-103, the picture is indeed softer through HDMI 1 than HDMI 2.

I have to split the audio and video to separate outputs because my receiver will not pass 3D.

Thanks.
post #25002 of 26644
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Forgive me if this is an old question. I've recently put the BDP-93 back in service after having been out of my chain for a while, and this thread is too huge to search through.

If I connect HDMI output 2 direct to my projector for video and HDMI 1 direct to my receiver for audio, the player is not passing bitstream audio. I only get 2-channel PCM. If I switch and use HDMI output 1 for video and HDMI output 2 for audio, bitstreaming works. Is this normal?

Yes. See: Are there any restrictions on using both HDMI outputs at the same time?
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I wanted to use HDMI 2 for video due to talk in the BDP-103 thread that the Qdeo chip adds non-defeatable DNR to HDMI 1 even if you use Source Direct and all Qdeo processing settings off. On the BDP-103, the picture is indeed softer through HDMI 1 than HDMI 2.

That was never reported on the -93.

-Bill
post #25003 of 26644
Thanks, Bill.
post #25004 of 26644
I'm going to pickup a 103 now that it looks like DSD streaming will be possible but will be keeping the 93 for ISO streaming. You guys that have 2 Oppos in your rack now, how are you dealing with the remote signals going to both players when you only want it control one of the players?
post #25005 of 26644
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

I'm going to pickup a 103 now that it looks like DSD streaming will be possible but will be keeping the 93 for ISO streaming. You guys that have 2 Oppos in your rack now, how are you dealing with the remote signals going to both players when you only want it control one of the players?

You can set the players to different remote code sets, but you will need a separate remote for each (unless you want to open the battery compartment and switch the setting each time, which would be inconvenient) or use a programmable remote with each player as a different activity.

-Bill
post #25006 of 26644
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

I'm going to pickup a 103 now that it looks like DSD streaming will be possible but will be keeping the 93 for ISO streaming. You guys that have 2 Oppos in your rack now, how are you dealing with the remote signals going to both players when you only want it control one of the players?

Define "streaming". The Oppos will handle those file types from attached storage.

Consult the owner's manual for instructions on setting each player to a specific remote code.
post #25007 of 26644
^^

Thanks.

Didn't realize this was possible. Looks like Oppo again thought of everything. Can't think of any other piece of gear that I own or have owned that has this capability. Now I just have to see if I can accomplish this feat on my Harmony One without too much bother.
post #25008 of 26644
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

^^

Thanks.

Didn't realize this was possible. Looks like Oppo again thought of everything. Can't think of any other piece of gear that I own or have owned that has this capability. Now I just have to see if I can accomplish this feat on my Harmony One without too much bother.
All you need is an activity that uses the second OPPO command set. You might need someone here to help you with that. There are several people who use two OPPO players in the same viewing space.
post #25009 of 26644
The activity and device programming looks pretty straightforward but getting it setup to use the 2nd command set would be the stumbling block. It could be simple if all I have to do is set the Oppo remote to code 2 and see if the Logitech software will recognize the whole command set by confirming just a few keys..........
post #25010 of 26644
The Harmony will recognize the whole set of commands after 2 or 3 confirmations. I have the 93 and the 103 side by side and use the Harmony 880
post #25011 of 26644
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

The Harmony will recognize the whole set of commands after 2 or 3 confirmations. I have the 93 and the 103 side by side and use the Harmony 880
Thanks. That's good to know if I ever wind up with two OPPO players in the same rack. biggrin.gif
post #25012 of 26644
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

The Harmony will recognize the whole set of commands after 2 or 3 confirmations. I have the 93 and the 103 side by side and use the Harmony 880

Thanks. Sounds like I should be in business then. I will test on my -93 for Code 2 tonight.
post #25013 of 26644
Sounds like there could be a few of us with a 93 & 103 side-by-side in our racks/cabinets. Good to know it's not difficult to program the Harmony One for it.

I've been eyeing the new Harmony Ultimate & Smart Control devices. Can't figure out which should come first, the player (103) or the device to control the player. wink.gif
post #25014 of 26644
^^
Get the 103 now before they remove the DSD playback from attached storage feature. Hurry. Run. Quick. biggrin.gif
post #25015 of 26644
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

^^
Get the 103 now before they remove the DSD playback from attached storage feature. Hurry. Run. Quick. biggrin.gif

I'm waiting for it to become part of the official firmware, but before it gets removed in a future firmware release. biggrin.gif

It's kind of funny to read about 103 owners saying they won't update their firmware to preserve BDMV folder playback. rolleyes.gif Pretty soon, we'll need a separate rack just to hold all our Oppo players running different firmware.
Edited by scolumbo - 4/24/13 at 7:25am
post #25016 of 26644
Yeah, and running out of remote code sets. I figure I can add one more Oppo after the 103 since it looks like a total of 3 code sets are possible.

However, even after I purchase 3 of the Oppos I still am saving money over some of the so called high-end players out there. And, I have a Denon 5910CI that cost me $3.5K a few years ago that I keep in my rack for single purpose use too: SACD and DVD-A via Denon Link. And it is huge - takes up as much room as 2 of the Oppos.
Edited by WillyJ - 4/24/13 at 8:55am
post #25017 of 26644
BTW, when you do pull the trigger on the 103, Amazon now has them available with free 2 day shipping if you are a Prime member.
post #25018 of 26644
I used to have a BDP-83 and 93 in the same rack, set to different remote code sets. As I recall, they still shared the Power command, which meant that both would turn on or off when I only wanted to use one. I believe that I asked OPPO about this, and they said it was intentional. In case one or both players were accidentally reset to the factory defaults, the Power command would always still work no matter what.

Not sure if this is still an issue.
post #25019 of 26644
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

I used to have a BDP-83 and 93 in the same rack, set to different remote code sets. As I recall, they still shared the Power command, which meant that both would turn on or off when I only wanted to use one. I believe that I asked OPPO about this, and they said it was intentional. In case one or both players were accidentally reset to the factory defaults, the Power command would always still work no matter what.

Not sure if this is still an issue.

That shouldn't be the case, although there is a gotcha: if you cut power to a player entirely, it does not know what code set it should obey the next time power is available, until it actually boots up and reads its settings So it responds to POWER ON from any code set, meaning all your players turn on from any OPPO coded remote (if they had the power cut previously).

The solution is to leave them connected to power (on standby, red light showing on the power button).

-Bill
post #25020 of 26644
I set the remote to code set 2 and left the -93 on code set 1 and the power button did not turn on the -93
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