or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Players › Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 841

post #25201 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turboo2u View Post

Quick question. Would I get better audio sound from my CDs and streamed music by using the Oppo's 7.1 channel output plugged into my Onkyo TX-NR3007 multi-channel
inputs? Thanx..

Lots of guys run them this way. I have the NE mod in my Oppo and employ an older avr without HDMI. It's like my cd collection came back to life! Because of High res music, I love I put all my cd's away even sold some off. And I am sorry I did.
post #25202 of 26581
What is the optimal video settings for Oppo BDP-93 Hooked up to a VT50 plasma?Any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #25203 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

What is the optimal video settings for Oppo BDP-93 Hooked up to a VT50 plasma?Any help would be greatly appreciated.

That would probably benefit me also since I'm interested in 93 + VT60 smile.gif

So far I'm using hdmi 1 to VT for best performance/3D and no routing through AVR. Second hdmi to AVR for HD audio. All settings as default with 1080p and 24p on auto (because I watch blu-rays and other things through Oppo). Not sure about 24, 30, 30 dither, 36-bit and 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 though. Most seem to say you should do test patterns yourself and see what looks best.
post #25204 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

What is the optimal video settings for Oppo BDP-93 Hooked up to a VT50 plasma?Any help would be greatly appreciated.


I would highly recommend the new spears and munsil disc. you can calibrate for both 2d/3d with it. I got it last week and it did wonders with my gt25.
http://www.spearsandmunsil.com/

Jacob
post #25205 of 26581
This thread has over 25,000 posts and it would take me weeks to go through to possibly find out there is no info. That is why I am asking vs doing a research.

Has anyone compared the Oppo93 vs the Oppo93 Nu Force version/upgrade.

I am considering Nuforce's upgrade which, I think, is for audio only and how it works with the HDMI cable correct?

My question is: Is the upgrade with the $400 cost?

Thanks for any thought.
post #25206 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

I am considering Nuforce's upgrade which, I think, is for audio only and how it works with the HDMI cable correct?

I won't pretend to have looked into this extensively, but a cursory glance shows that the Nuforce modification is for the DAC stage connected to the 7.1 analog outputs. If you're planning to use HDMI, there's no point in it.
post #25207 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

I won't pretend to have looked into this extensively, but a cursory glance shows that the Nuforce modification is for the DAC stage connected to the 7.1 analog outputs. If you're planning to use HDMI, there's no point in it.

I think you are correct.

I called Nuforce a few times today but no one has returned my call.

So, I did a lot of research and this is what I discovered...

1. If one already owns a excellent high-end HDMI A/V receiver with quality DAC’s and they have no plans on using the analog outputs on a Blu-ray player than the standard OPPO BDP-93 for $499 will offer the exact same sound quality when compared to the OPPO BDP-95, BDP-93 NE, and BDP-93 NXE. Digital connections from the HDMI and S/PDIF outputs sounds exactly the same for all players. Only if one plans on using analog audio outputs will the more expensive players offer better audio quality.

Since I am running it through a Denon 4311 by way of an HDMI cable, that is about as good as it will get.

Thanks
Edited by JimShaw - 5/29/13 at 7:20am
post #25208 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

I am considering Nuforce's upgrade which, I think, is for audio only and how it works with the HDMI cable correct?

I won't pretend to have looked into this extensively, but a cursory glance shows that the Nuforce modification is for the DAC stage connected to the 7.1 analog outputs. If you're planning to use HDMI, there's no point in it.
That's correct. wink.gif
post #25209 of 26581
Hi guys, I started running into an issue with my BDP-93 and am wondering if any of you seen this before. Recently when inserting a 3D disc, it'll tell me that one of my peripherals isn't supported by 3D. I have an Epson 5020 and watched tons of 3D on this combo. I tried erasing the persisitent storage, resetting everything, etc. The only way it'll get to work again is if I disconnect the Oppo from the Richard Grey power conditionner for a few minutes. Any ideas ? I'll contact Oppo support but I have to wait until I get home from work, so I thought I'd try here in the meantime. Thanks!
post #25210 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gates View Post

Recently when inserting a 3D disc, it'll tell me that one of my peripherals isn't supported by 3D.

This is determined by HDMI handshake. If anything has changed in the HDMI chain, even settings in other devices, this could be the cause. Otherwise you can always try the time-honored practice of swapping in different HDMI cables.
post #25211 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

This is determined by HDMI handshake. If anything has changed in the HDMI chain, even settings in other devices, this could be the cause. Otherwise you can always try the time-honored practice of swapping in different HDMI cables.

Thanks, I'll check a few more things tonight and maybe even swap out the HDMI cable. It's just weird that this started out of the blue.
post #25212 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gates View Post

Thanks, I'll check a few more things tonight and maybe even swap out the HDMI cable. It's just weird that this started out of the blue.

That's a common situation with dodgy cables. Be sure to swap out any cable connected to player, display or AVR.
post #25213 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

1. If one already owns a excellent high-end HDMI A/V receiver with quality DAC’s and they have no plans on using the analog outputs on a Blu-ray player than the standard OPPO BDP-93 for $499 will offer the exact same sound quality when compared to the OPPO BDP-95, BDP-93 NE, and BDP-93 NXE. Digital connections from the HDMI and S/PDIF outputs sounds exactly the same for all players. Only if one plans on using analog audio outputs will the more expensive players offer better audio quality.

Since I am running it through a Denon 4311 by way of an HDMI cable, that is about as good as it will get.

The HDMI and S/PDIF outputs are digital connections that transmit audio as a string of 1s and 0s. Any modification that would claim to improve those 1s and 0s in a digital signal is snake oil. What could it do, make the 1s more 1-ier and the 0s more 0-ier?

Real improvements to sound quality will happen during the digital-to-analog conversion stage or the amplification stage. The Nuforce is (allegedly) a higher quality DAC for the Blu-ray player. But if you use the player's digital output, that D-to-A conversion happens inside your receiver, not the player.
post #25214 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

That's a common situation with dodgy cables. Be sure to swap out any cable connected to player, display or AVR.

I did some playing around without switching any cables. Checked all my settings and it seems (hopefully) that the V.CONV on the Pioneer receiver was the culprit. It was originally off and everything was fine. For some reason it was now on. I had a 3D Blu that didn't want to play and as soon as I turned V.CONV off, it started working. Hopefully it solves my issue!
post #25215 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

The HDMI and S/PDIF outputs are digital connections that transmit audio as a string of 1s and 0s. Any modification that would claim to improve those 1s and 0s in a digital signal is snake oil. What could it do, make the 1s more 1-ier and the 0s more 0-ier?

Real improvements to sound quality will happen during the digital-to-analog conversion stage or the amplification stage. The Nuforce is (allegedly) a higher quality DAC for the Blu-ray player. But if you use the player's digital output, that D-to-A conversion happens inside your receiver, not the player.

Nuforce finally did get back with an e-mail...

Our upgrade does nothing for HDMI. It affects the analog output only, which means that if the audio signal is being sent over HDMI it will go to that receiver, rather than the DAC of the Oppo. However if you can output through the Oppo audio out then it will of course improve sound quality from there. However you will need to use the Oppo DAC built in, rather than some other receiver you may wish to use.


Best Regards,
Jeremiah Smith
Nuforce Support
post #25216 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

Nuforce finally did get back with an e-mail...

Our upgrade does nothing for HDMI. It affects the analog output only, which means that if the audio signal is being sent over HDMI it will go to that receiver, rather than the DAC of the Oppo. However if you can output through the Oppo audio out then it will of course improve sound quality from there. However you will need to use the Oppo DAC built in, rather than some other receiver you may wish to use.


Best Regards,
Jeremiah Smith
Nuforce Support

Didn't Josh already tell you that about a week ago? :-)
post #25217 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

Didn't Josh already tell you that about a week ago? :-)

You are extremely observant. Yes he did. The same time I post my question on this forum, I also sent Nuforce a note.

My thought was that members might like to also hear what Nuforce said.

I don't know what you are trying to say or refer???????

For being a "comicguy", I don't think you're very funny!



m

Edited by JimShaw - 6/3/13 at 9:17pm
post #25218 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

You are extremely observant. Yes he did. The same time I post my question on this forum, I also sent Nuforce a note.

My thought was that members might like to also hear what Nuforce said.

I don't know what you are trying to say or refer???????
I suspect some people interpreted your response as implying that the answers you received here weren't official until NuForce replied with basically the same info... wink.gif I will say though, that the answer from NuForce was extremely poorly worded. For example:
Quote:
Originally Posted by NuForce 
However if you can output through the Oppo audio out

Well, there are several "audio out" options on the Oppo - they should have made it clear that they meant the ANALOG audio output.
post #25219 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I suspect some people interpreted your response as implying that the answers you received here weren't official until NuForce replied with basically the same info... wink.gif I will say though, that the answer from NuForce was extremely poorly worded. For example:
Well, there are several "audio out" options on the Oppo - they should have made it clear that they meant the ANALOG audio output.

Yes, I agree with you. I knew what Nuforce was talking about because of my interaction with this forum.

By the way, I did mentioned that I thought Josh was correct. Also, how many replies to questions on this forum end up being totally incorrect? Therefore, it is always good to get "official" information.


m
Edited by JimShaw - 6/4/13 at 8:14am
post #25220 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

Also, how many replies to questions on this forum end up being totally incorrect?
I could easily turn that around and ask how many answers from manufacturers end up being totally incorrect? biggrin.gif AVS tends to be self policing - chances are very good that a bad answer posted here will get corrected pretty quickly as everything is out in the open. If you get a bad answer from a manufacturer (and don't share it with others), there's pretty much zero chance that it will get corrected.
post #25221 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Generally yes. It has some features no longer found on the newer models because of licensing restrictions:
  • free of Cinavia
  • plays BDMV directories on USB storage
  • pre-sunset component video


-Bill
Bill, what about 93's manufactured in 2012, will they have Cinavia.?

Also, were there any firmware updates that added that "feature"?
post #25222 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowcaster View Post

Bill, what about 93's manufactured in 2012, will they have Cinavia.?

Also, were there any firmware updates that added that "feature"?

No -93 will ever have Cinavia.

-Bill
post #25223 of 26581
Thanks Bill, just what I was hoping.
post #25224 of 26581
This question is for the rare few people that still have ISO capability left on their units. I have searched and could not find an answer. If I were to install the region free mod on my ISO capable 93 would I then be able to play back ISO rips from a different region? Say, I have a bunch of Region two discs that I have ripped to ISO and store on an attached hard drive, after setting the oppo 93 for region 2 would I be able to play those rips from an attached hard drive? My 93 has played EVERY ISO i have thrown at it all the way to Jack Reacher, but I have heard some people that try to play an actual round shiny thing in an ISO capable 93 sometimes run into issues on the newer titles. I am wondering if I will be able to watch some Region 2 blu rays via the attached hard drive..
Thanks in advance!
post #25225 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

This question is for the rare few people that still have ISO capability left on their units. I have searched and could not find an answer. If I were to install the region free mod on my ISO capable 93 would I then be able to play back ISO rips from a different region? Say, I have a bunch of Region two discs that I have ripped to ISO and store on an attached hard drive, after setting the oppo 93 for region 2 would I be able to play those rips from an attached hard drive? My 93 has played EVERY ISO i have thrown at it all the way to Jack Reacher, but I have heard some people that try to play an actual round shiny thing in an ISO capable 93 sometimes run into issues on the newer titles. I am wondering if I will be able to watch some Region 2 blu rays via the attached hard drive..
Thanks in advance!

In general, ISO rips have no region coding.
post #25226 of 26581
I'm sure this has been asked but I can't seem to find the answer...

I have my 93 hooked up to a Yamaha V-867.

I know, from FAQ and forums, that the 93 doesn't bitstream DTS-HD Master via MKV but was wondering why my AVR displays DTS-HD Mster during playback?

Thx
post #25227 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by southlick View Post

I'm sure this has been asked but I can't seem to find the answer...

I have my 93 hooked up to a Yamaha V-867.

I know, from FAQ and forums, that the 93 doesn't bitstream DTS-HD Master via MKV but was wondering why my AVR displays DTS-HD Mster during playback?

Thx



I'm not sure where you heard that, but the 93 does bitstream DTS-HD master audio and delivers it via HDMI or the 7.1 outputs. I'm not sure if it's MKV, but its delivering DTS. It's right on their site.
post #25228 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

I'm not sure where you heard that, but the 93 does bitstream DTS-HD master audio and delivers it via HDMI or the 7.1 outputs. I'm not sure if it's MKV, but its delivering DTS. It's right on their site.

Not from MKV, or at least not the last time I checked. You can get DTS-HD from M2TS containers.

-Bill
post #25229 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Not from MKV, or at least not the last time I checked. You can get DTS-HD from M2TS containers.

-Bill



I wasn't sure about that but the thing is it delivers DTS and that's why his AV displays it. Other than MKV being open source I don't much about it. I know all the pirate movie makers use it and I'm assuming that's because it's open source, also why Oppo probably doesn't support it. If his AV is saying DTS I'm assuming that's what it's playing.
post #25230 of 26581
Quote:
Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

I wasn't sure about that but the thing is it delivers DTS and that's why his AV displays it. Other than MKV being open source I don't much about it. I know all the pirate movie makers use it and I'm assuming that's because it's open source, also why Oppo probably doesn't support it. If his AV is saying DTS I'm assuming that's what it's playing.

The BDP-103 supports DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD in MKV. The difference is the software kit that Mediatek provides for each player.

-Bill
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Blu-ray Players
AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Players › Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread