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post #25411 of 26590
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Originally Posted by systematic View Post

Can the following firmware play ISO:

BDP9xEU-26-1108?

Or do I need to up/downgrade?

Thanks,
I just noticed that your 93 is the EU version. You may be able to find the EU version of the firmware listed below. What I wrote is valid for the US version only.

It appears that you can still download old firmware files from OPPO for US version players. The latest firmware that supported .ISO was December 2011. You can download it from this OPPO page. Just scroll down to the instructions for the thumb drive version and follow those instructions.

There is a complete list of US firmware versions with links to OPPO for each one in post number one of this thread. Keep in mind that at some point it became impossible to back up to an earlier firmware.
Edited by htwaits - 7/5/13 at 12:52pm
post #25412 of 26590
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Originally Posted by nikonf5 View Post

Fatherom would be advised to research something before commenting on its effectiveness which I can attest to, as this is how I connect almost 20+ external storage drives from 1TB to 3TB to my PC at work for IT work with company hard drives, at home on my main PC, and on the Oppo, and have never had an issue.

On top of that, you also get the benefit of your choice of 120mm fan cooling the drive while its operating, whereas most enclosures offer no cooling whatsoever and trust me, whoever designs them HAS to know it shortens the HDD lifespan but thats all part of planned obsolescence.

It is the cheapest, and IMHO, the best solution for connecting external drives to the Oppo or any computer and you can pick your drive based on useful variables like spindle speed, warranty, etc as opposed to being stuck with whatever they put in the enclosure.

Also, dont be fooled by the convenience offered by enclosures as SATA drives have hot-swappability written into the spec and you dont need anything fancy to use it.

I have posted on this before on page 655 of this thread linked below
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1291855/official-oppo-bdp-93-owners-thread/19620#post_21817223

HTH

I'm really not trying to argue back/forth. I'm a software engineer by day, and I've been dealing with computers my whole life, basically. I find some of what you propose interesting.

The original poster has a Western Digital passport HDD, which is a 2.5" drive in a portable enclosure. It only has a single USB connection on it. Save cracking it open (which as you mentioned would void the warranty), there's not much one can do above and beyond what the drive does out of the box.

This is by no means a slam on the original poster, but think about the context...the original poster was having trouble getting a passport drive to be recognized by the Oppo. There was a fair amount of discussion around NTFS/FAT and GPT/MBR, and it was clear from the responses that the original poster doesn't know all the nitty gritty details of hard drives as well as some of us might. Is it resonable to suggest he start dealing with bare drives, internal PC power supplies, molex connectors and cut pieces of paper clip? I would hazard to guess that's WAY too intimate and technical for most people. Most people want to just stick a USB cable in the drive and connect it to their Oppo and have it just work.
post #25413 of 26590
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Originally Posted by benleeys View Post

The problem with my new HDD is I have so far failed to establish whether it was partitioned in MBR or GPT. My PC running XP doesn't appear to offer this info, only that it has been formatted with NTFS file system. Guess I will just keep searching till the info turns up.

- Ben

On my XP machine its:

right click on drive > properties > hardware > highlight the drive in question > properties > volumes > populate
post #25414 of 26590
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The FAQ has a list of file and container types: What are the supported media container and file types?

The online manual has illustrations of the Media Browser; it's a very basic interface.

-Bill
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

That was before the ISO feature was added. See the FAQ for firmware versions where it was available: Are .iso files or Blu-ray or DVD directory structures supported on external media?

Note that the feature was removed in 64-0119 -- to retain ISO you must not install that firmware or any after it.

-Bill

Thanks for confirming Bill. SO I guess if I just have to update the OPPO to a firmware version prior or 64-0119 to have ISO playback.

The other firmware I was curious about was BDP-9xEU-66-0413. This disabled ISO functionality. My question is, can this version be downgraded without a mod kiT?

Thanks,
post #25415 of 26590
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Originally Posted by systematic View Post


Thanks for confirming Bill. SO I guess if I just have to update the OPPO to a firmware version prior or 64-0119 to have ISO playback.

The other firmware I was curious about was BDP-9xEU-66-0413. This disabled ISO functionality. My question is, can this version be downgraded without a mod kiT?

Thanks,

No downgrades! So be careful. (Note: prior to 64-0119. 64-0119 does not have ISO support).

-Bill
post #25416 of 26590
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

No downgrades! So be careful. (Note: prior to 64-0119. 64-0119 does not have ISO support).

-Bill



Correct but isn't there still a way to do this? I believe i read there is. I'm also assuming someone has one of the FW upgrades on a thumb drive or computer.
post #25417 of 26590
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Correct but isn't there still a way to do this? I believe i read there is. I'm also assuming someone has one of the FW upgrades on a thumb drive or computer.

I don't believe so. It used to be said that some hardware mod allowed downgrades of the main firmware but I don't know if that is still the case.

-Bill
post #25418 of 26590
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I don't believe so. It used to be said that some hardware mod allowed downgrades of the main firmware but I don't know if that is still the case.

-Bill



I know some of the guys are putting the Marantz AV8801 updates on a thumb drive and updating this way, just a thought smile.gif
post #25419 of 26590
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

I know some of the guys are putting the Marantz AV8801 updates on a thumb drive and updating this way, just a thought smile.gif
Regardless of which way you install the firmware, the 93 won't allow firmware downgrades - only upgrades. There was a way to override this with a region free mod kit for a bit, but that ability was disabled at some point. People should just go with the assumption that firmware downgrades are NOT possible and be very careful which firmware version they install if ISO support is a must have feature.
post #25420 of 26590
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Regardless of which way you install the firmware, the 93 won't allow firmware downgrades - only upgrades. There was a way to override this with a region free mod kit for a bit, but that ability was disabled at some point. People should just go with the assumption that firmware downgrades are NOT possible and be very careful which firmware version they install if ISO support is a must have feature.



In this day and age you can bet someone has learned how to rollback to an earlier FW. It may not be legal but I'm sure there's a way. I actually thought I read about it on this thread. But I do understand what your saying smile.gif
post #25421 of 26590
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

In this day and age you can bet someone has learned how to rollback to an earlier FW. It may not be legal but I'm sure there's a way. I actually thought I read about it on this thread. But I do understand what your saying smile.gif
I haven't heard of any one having success rolling back from the more recent firmware revisions. If you roll the dice, don't be surprised if you don't win big money biggrin.gif. In any event, it would be a really bad move for someone who cares about ISO support to upgrade to any version where ISO support was removed.
post #25422 of 26590
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I haven't heard of any one having success rolling back from the more recent firmware revisions. If you roll the dice, don't be surprised if you don't win big money biggrin.gif. In any event, it would be a really bad move for someone who cares about ISO support to upgrade to any version where ISO support was removed.



No dice rolling for me, I don't need to upgrade my player yet and it's too late for me, I updated my firmware about 4 months ago. Up until then I was running the FW from the early release of the 93. I'm waiting to see where 4K goes biggrin.gif
Edited by comfynumb - 7/7/13 at 5:58pm
post #25423 of 26590
Can some one tell me what the largest HDD that can be connected to the BDP-93 through USB or esata that it can recognize? I have been searching through this thread and can't find it.
Thanks
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2TB
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Thanks
post #25426 of 26590
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Originally Posted by lgemmill View Post

Can some one tell me what the largest HDD that can be connected to the BDP-93 through USB or esata that it can recognize? I have been searching through this thread and can't find it.
Thanks

Note that the FAQ has this and other useful info: What is the maximum supported size of an attached hard drive?

-Bill
post #25427 of 26590
Following up on previous posters, is there some compelling reason to install the most recent Beta firmware now that it is going on four months old? I've not used the beta fw on the Oppo because I have a highly non-technical user and didn't want to have to deal with more problems than usual. We use the bdp for video discs, Netflix streaming, and various types of high-rez and redbook audio discs. I rarely stream audio from my desktop and never video.
post #25428 of 26590
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Originally Posted by rwinner View Post

Following up on previous posters, is there some compelling reason to install the most recent Beta firmware now that it is going on four months old? I've not used the beta fw on the Oppo because I have a highly non-technical user and didn't want to have to deal with more problems than usual. We use the bdp for video discs, Netflix streaming, and various types of high-rez and redbook audio discs. I rarely stream audio from my desktop and never video.

I don't think they introduced anything new, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If your unit is doing everything you need and is playing all your discs properly then it's best to just leave it be. I believe the new firmware only fixes disc compatibility issues anyway.

Here is an excerpt from the Oppo support page:

Note: Although firmware upgrade is an easy and usually trouble-free process, it is important to ensure that the power supply to the player is stable, and the upgrade process is not interrupted. A failed firmware upgrade can render the player unusable.

This release is still a beta test version, not an official release. Use it only if you would like to experiment with the new features and improvements. There is a very small chance of the new features and improvements not working properly. If that happens, please report any issue to us.



Release Notes:
This version is designed for the OPPO BDP-93 and BDP-95 Blu-ray Disc players. Comparing to the previous Official release version BDP9x-74-0908, the major changes are:

Improved the support for "Episode Resume" feature observed on "Game of Thrones: Season 1 (BD, 2012)". It is similar to the "Disc Unbound" feature observed on new FOX releases, which allows the audience to select the episode located on another disc, and once the correct disc is loaded, the player will directly jump to the pre-selected episode and start to play.
General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
Special notice: you can NOT revert back to the previous Official release.



All features and improvements of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
post #25429 of 26590
Quick firmware question:

Does BDP9x-65-0302 firmware:
- play ISOs at all
- is there any advantage to retaining this Firmware for a BDP-95, or should I upgrade?
post #25430 of 26590
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Originally Posted by Girardian View Post

Quick firmware question:

Does BDP9x-65-0302 firmware:
- play ISOs at all
No. redface.gif
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- is there any advantage to retaining this Firmware for a BDP-95, or should I upgrade?
No. Yes, probably. smile.gif

Then again, there is no requirement to upgrade if you aren't encountering any problems. I don't know if there have been any improvements in analog audio since your firmware release. The folks in the 95 owner's thread would be better able to answer that question.
post #25431 of 26590
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Originally Posted by Girardian View Post

Quick firmware question:

Does BDP9x-65-0302 firmware:
- play ISOs at all
- is there any advantage to retaining this Firmware for a BDP-95, or should I upgrade?

If it were my player, I'd upgrade.

The first post of this thread includes Release Notes for each of the various firmware releases, so you can see what changed between your firmware and now.
--Bob
post #25432 of 26590

I picked up a new Oppo 93 with the latest Beta FW It has Region free DIY kit.This is my second 93.I rolled back the FW on my first one ,but ,now that this new one has the  latest Beta FW ,  I am afraid to use the same method.Would someone send me a PM with the info how to do it.

Thank you in advance.

post #25433 of 26590
My understanding is that Oppo has disabled the ability to install older firmware even with the trick involving the region free mod. I could be wrong though.
post #25434 of 26590
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Originally Posted by osogovo View Post

I picked up a new Oppo 93 with the latest Beta FW It has Region free DIY kit.This is my second 93.I rolled back the FW on my first one ,but ,now that this new one has the  latest Beta FW ,  I am afraid to use the same method.Would someone send me a PM with the info how to do it.

Thank you in advance.

Can't be done. But it won't hurt anything to try.
post #25435 of 26590
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Originally Posted by osogovo View Post

I picked up a new Oppo 93 with the latest Beta FW It has Region free DIY kit.This is my second 93.I rolled back the FW on my first one ,but ,now that this new one has the  latest Beta FW ,  I am afraid to use the same method.Would someone send me a PM with the info how to do it.

Thank you in advance.
Only way to know for sure is to ask the manufacturer of your region mod. To do what you want both the procedure and the firmware on the mod itself change depending on what firmware is installed on the Oppo.
post #25436 of 26590

Thank you guys for the quick replies.

post #25437 of 26590
let us know how it turns out. I would love to pick up another spare oppo if i could roll it back to ISO!
post #25438 of 26590
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

let us know how it turns out. I would love to pick up another spare oppo if i could roll it back to ISO!

On eBay for $650.
post #25439 of 26590

I'm going to be out of town for the rest of the week,but I'll let you,all know how this pans out.

post #25440 of 26590
Using Oppo to send hi-rez digital to 2 channel DAC

I have a long in the tooth 83SE that I would like to use as a transport to send high resolution digital audio to an external 2 channel DAC.
The external DAC accepts SPDIF coax, Toslink, AES/EBU and USB inputs. It can decode only 2 channel LPCM and additionally DSD via the USB input.

I have discovered that the Oppo will not output any digital audio via SPDIF when playing SACDs, and will only output a 48k sampling rate when playing Blu-Rays, thus denying my DAC access to high-rez digital audio via the Oppo's SPDIF output.
A few folks on the internet have used HDMI audio Extractors like the Monoprice HDMI Audio Converter (Product ID: 10251) to extract the digital audio stream from the HDMI output.

My concerns with this approach are the following:

Will Mode B on the Monoprice device allow the Oppo to output 2-channel LPCM beyond 48k/16 bits for both Blu-Rays and SACD (despite the fact the TV can only handle 48k max)?

If the source material is only Multi-channel, will the Oppo perform a mix-down to 2-channel LPCM and if so will the original sample rate be preserved?

My TV can only handle up to 48k sampling frequency, so if the Oppo does send higher sample rate LPCM via HDMI, will this cause the TV image to get confused or distorted? I don't care if the TV audio produces static or garbage as its audio will be muted.

Does the TV need to be left on, even if playing audio only content?

If there are alternative approaches or products that you believe will also achieve this goal, please let me know.
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