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Thanks for all your help and suggestions! What a great forum!

Now I feel very stupid - but I almost imagined that I must be blind somehow: On the first disc is the pilot movie which is one main movie (not split into two parts) and where the "chapters icon" lists the chapters by numbers. On the second disc there are episodes 01 to 05 and the *same* "chapters icon" lists just 01 to 05, but this time these *are* the episodes and not the chapters.

So, in the end, all is fine and I just got fooled by the fact that the same icon was used to represent chapters on disc 1 and episodes on disc 2. Furthermore, in the episode selection, no episode titles are displayed, but just the episode numbers, so it looked exactly like the chapters selection from disc 1.

While I really feel silly now, this could have been designed a bit more obvious (or at least text could have been added to the icons) ...

Thanks again for all your help. Now the first disc that does not properly play on the Oppo still has to come. ;-)
post #25532 of 26597
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Hi, is there something special about that app?

I wouldn't say there is any special about the app but I think people would appreciate having the option of using it. Hi-def movie streaming options in Canada are minimal and almost non existent if you are trying to use the OPPO. Netfilx Canada has a very poor choice of movies and Vudu is not available so that just leaves us with CinemaNow. The CinemaNow service is available on other devices in Canada and all CinemaNow has to do is update their app for Oppo to allow use in Canada.
post #25533 of 26597
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Originally Posted by TboneofLA View Post

I wouldn't say there is any special about the app but I think people would appreciate having the option of using it. Hi-def movie streaming options in Canada are minimal and almost non existent if you are trying to use the OPPO. Netfilx Canada has a very poor choice of movies and Vudu is not available so that just leaves us with CinemaNow. The CinemaNow service is available on other devices in Canada and all CinemaNow has to do is update their app for Oppo to allow use in Canada.



One thing I can say is we're in the same boat when it comes to Netflix here, not a great choice of movies and multi channel is not even an option for me streaming through the 93.
post #25534 of 26597
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

One thing I can say is we're in the same boat when it comes to Netflix here, not a great choice of movies and multi channel is not even an option for me streaming through the 93.

Unfortunately streaming has a long way to go. The selection of titles is poor and there are technical issues with most of the providers that frustrate users to the point of not wanting to use the service.
post #25535 of 26597
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Originally Posted by TboneofLA View Post

Unfortunately streaming has a long way to go. The selection of titles is poor and there are technical issues with most of the providers that frustrate users to the point of not wanting to use the service.

There are so many variables at play that have to come together to make streaming an enjoyable experience...ISP, Content Provider, Player hardware and software, etc. It can really be a crapshoot. I've been relatively happy with streaming from Apple TV and Vudu on my Oppo 93 but the gap between streaming and shiny discs is still painfully obvious. I think we'll get there in time.
post #25536 of 26597
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Originally Posted by TboneofLA View Post

Unfortunately streaming has a long way to go. The selection of titles is poor and there are technical issues with most of the providers that frustrate users to the point of not wanting to use the service.



Yes it does and especially if they expect to stream UHD. All in all I'm pretty happy with Vudu for movies that I don't want to buy, I'm under no illusion that they are blu ray quality, especially when it comes to the audio.
Edited by comfynumb - 8/27/13 at 7:07am
post #25537 of 26597
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Originally Posted by sbellon View Post

Thanks for all your help and suggestions! What a great forum!

Now I feel very stupid - but I almost imagined that I must be blind somehow: On the first disc is the pilot movie which is one main movie (not split into two parts) and where the "chapters icon" lists the chapters by numbers. On the second disc there are episodes 01 to 05 and the *same* "chapters icon" lists just 01 to 05, but this time these *are* the episodes and not the chapters.

So, in the end, all is fine and I just got fooled by the fact that the same icon was used to represent chapters on disc 1 and episodes on disc 2. Furthermore, in the episode selection, no episode titles are displayed, but just the episode numbers, so it looked exactly like the chapters selection from disc 1.

While I really feel silly now, this could have been designed a bit more obvious (or at least text could have been added to the icons) ...

Thanks again for all your help. Now the first disc that does not properly play on the Oppo still has to come. ;-)

Yes it is an excellent forum people are always ready to help. You should not feel embarrassed in any way we have all been there at one time or another and exactly what these forums are for. I think from what you say you are right it would have been helpful if chapters and series had been better identified. Like you I have yet to find a disc that does not play and I am really pleased with my 93, what a machine.
post #25538 of 26597
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Yes it does and especially if they expect to stream UHD. All in all I'm pretty happy with Vudu for movies that I don't want to buy, I'm under no illusion that they are blu ray quality, especially when it comes to the audio.

It will be interesting to see where UHD goes in the next few years... based on my trials and tribulations with streaming HD I would have to say it would be a disaster.
post #25539 of 26597
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Originally Posted by TboneofLA View Post

It will be interesting to see where UHD goes in the next few years... based on my trials and tribulations with streaming HD I would have to say it would be a disaster.



Comcast is my IP, and I get their 20 Mbps service. Actually it's around 22.75 down and 4.5 up. But it does Vudu HDX perfect through the 93, streaming 2160 may be a different story, but in the end I believe it will happen.
Edited by comfynumb - 8/29/13 at 8:51am
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Anyone else notice the frame skipping?
post #25541 of 26597
Tried to do some searching here, but "glitch" "pause" and other terms that jumped to mind didn't help me much, so here goes.

Bought my Oppo BDP-93 used about two months ago. Knew before I bought one I wanted to use it region free. But by the time I found what I thought was a good deal on a used one from a local seller, the mod chips were largely unavailable. Ended up buying one of the Pro ones from the .dk webste that I found in Google but plenty of folks recommended. Used the player for a few days without incident. Bought the region free chip, installed it, tested it, and everything was fine. Then didn't use it for a month or so, while watching TV on my Windows 7 computer via Media Center and the HDHomeRun Prime tuner with a CableCard installed. I can now record 3 channels at once, plus use a Hauppauge Colossus to record from my Comcast Cable box if I wanna record a PPV or something.

Anyway, yesterday I turn on the Oppo and I put in A-Team. It turns on fine, but I notice as it's loading that it seems like the whole unit "pauses" or "locks up" every say... 20-30 seconds? For only 2-3 seconds at a time, then functionality resumes. Sometimes button presses on the remote don't register, or else the video... blu-ray or streaming video... just STOPS. It starts up again, but it's TERRIBLY annoying.

Figuing something could be wrong with my settings, I started making changes. Turning off CEC in the TV, the Blu-Ray player, AND the Receiver. I went to Source Direct. I disabled 24fps mode. I checked my HDMI cables. I cleared the Internal Storage. I reset the Factory Settings. I pulled the mod chip out. Nothing has solved the problem, and I'm getting AWEFULLY worried that I bought a Lemon... though I don't blame the seller (maybe I'm naive). He was very nice, sold the unit at a better than Ebay price, and upgraded to a 103... which if I wasn't set on putting Cinevia audio copy protection behind me... I might have gotten instead. Oh, and yes. Tried 3 different discs from 3 different studios that all play fine on other players. A-Team, Game of Thrones Season 1, Disc 1, and The Fifth Element (Remasted for better picture quality).

Oh, I even updated to the latest public firmware... not that it did any good. Same occasional "pause" while I watch a Blu-Ray or stream a video from my Windows Home Server 2011 computer to the Oppo. It's the damest problem, and I've checked on the connections I know how to deal with inside the cover... no fix found. Currently the cover is off while I debate my next move. Hoping someone here might have had this issue and have some advice. Otherwise I'll have to ask Oppo for help, and since I'm not the original owner, and it's likely out of warranty... I'm not expecting much help there. frown.gif

Was so excited to get this player, but it seems I should stuck with watching stuff from a PC connected to my 60" Samsung. Thanks for any assistance in advance.
post #25542 of 26597
Okay... so I MAY have figured out the problem. But I have NO IDEA WHY it's a problem.

In a matter of frustration, I pulled the network cable. At which point my foriegn copy of Gladiator (Steelbook, and one of the first GOOD remastered video copies) has been playing STRAIGHT through without missing a beat. But DHCP was working, and connections tests showed my networking is ok. The ONLY thing I did in the last week was install Remote Potato on my primary Windows 7 MCE recording box. Remote Potato DID require me to forward ports to that PC, so I can schedule recordings remotely. Could those ports be an issue? I wouldn't think so... but then I wouldn't think bad networking could cause my player to have issues like described above. I'll defintely replace the cable and report back.
post #25543 of 26597
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Originally Posted by merkman View Post

Okay... so I MAY have figured out the problem.
I can't solve your problem, but I don't see anything that would make me think that your 93 has a problem. If it ever does, OPPO is very good at diagnosis and if you're in the US, repair is very affordable.
post #25544 of 26597
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Originally Posted by merkman View Post

Anyway, yesterday I turn on the Oppo and I put in A-Team. It turns on fine, but I notice as it's loading that it seems like the whole unit "pauses" or "locks up" every say... 20-30 seconds?

Often a sign of a dirty/defective disc or dirty lens corrupting the data stream the Oppo is trying to decode. If it does it on multiple Blurays that have been cleaned, then it could be the laser lens needs cleaning. If the player has been used in a smoky environment, material can deposit on the lens over time until it becomes too bad to work properly.

I notice you mention success by disconnecting ethernet. Unless you absolutely positively must have BD-Live features, then don't connect the player to the internet. Some titles with BD-Live respond better if BD-Live is disabled in the player, whilst some respond better if BD-Live is enabled, even with the internet disconnected: it's trial and error when there are problems. However, disabling the internet completely prevents the player from wasting time checking with servers that may no longer exist. IMO BD-Live is more trouble than it is worth.

With problems of this nature, the first step is always to clean the disc even if it looks clean to the naked eye or is a new disc out of the shrinkwrap. Then try BD-Live enable/disable and clearing persistent memory.

Oppo are generally good about supporting on-sold players.
post #25545 of 26597
Thanks guys! I appreciate you taking the time to reply. So here's the thing:

1) I couldn't care less about the networking for BD-Live. RARELY has there been anything worth looking at there. But I DO like to stream movies from my Windows Home Server 2011 computer through the Blu-Ray player to my receiver and TV. And with the Oppo BDP-93 chipset and video quality... that was my preference when available.

2) The problem occurs with multiple discs. All without scratches or fingerprints, and wiped with a lint free cloth for good measure. Which leads me to #3...

3) The problem occurs with STREAMING video, as well as discs. I've tried watching episodes of Doctor Who, and other videos that are on my aforementioned Home Server... and they two "freeze" or "pause" every 30 seconds, then after 3-4 seconds the video plays again. But remove the network cable... and this behavior goes away.

4) Doesn't matter if I use a CAT5E or CAT6 cable, or if I use a different port on the Gigabit switch. The problem occurs consistantly, no matter WHAT I do with discs, network settings (other than disabling Ethernet, or pulling cable), etc. I've considered that because the Oppo has a Fast Ethernet port (10/100), getting an older Fast Ethernet switch, and running a cable from the Gigabit switch to that, then from the Fast Ethernet switch to the Blu-Ray player. Just to see if that makes any difference.

Been an odd experience, and was NOT happening with the device when I first got it. I'll keep on it, checking with Oppo in the next few days if no one else has any experience or suggestions that resolve the issue. But thanks again to AVS Forums, and it's users. THIS is the type of thing that has me pulling my hair out... but I didn't have any left before I started. wink.gif
post #25546 of 26597
I had a somewhat similar experience last summer with streaming hi-def music in FLAC files from my PC - for no apparent reason, the music would stall out and wouldn't resume unless I used the controls on the Oppo's remote to back it up a few seconds and resume.

Far from having Gigabit ethernet switches, I have an old blue Linksys Wifi b/g 10/100 router, connected to the theater where my Oppo lives by a pair of almost-as-old Verizon Fios routers set up as an ethernet bridge that uses the existing cable tv coax wiring in the region above 1Ghz - a trick called MOCA (for "multimedia over cable") - similar to powerline networking, but in a much quieter environment: cable tv wiring doesn't have background noise of the sort generated by electric motors and other devices.

I went spelunking through every setting in all three routers doing two things: giving traffic to the devices in the theater high priority and turning off any timeout intervals.

Eventually, the problem went away.

I am puzzled by one thing in your post - you say the same problem affects streaming video from your PC, but is avoided by removing the network cable. How would streaming work with the network cable unplugged? Or are you running wireless - which is just barely fast enough for video!
Edited by Philnick - 9/3/13 at 11:51pm
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BDP-93 Networking question

Hi
Can somebody please help me out. I have limited technical know how and I am struggling with this issue. I have a BDP-93 player, connected to my network and a Synology DSM 412+. When I try to play .avi and .divx files over the network I get "The Player does not support this type of file" However if I try to play the same files via a hard drive connected to the players usb connection all plays fine.
I look forward to some constructive replies
Thank you
Regards
IW
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post #25549 of 26597
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

I had a somewhat similar experience last summer with streaming hi-def music in FLAC files from my PC - for no apparent reason, the music would stall out and wouldn't resume unless I used the controls on the Oppo's remote to back it up a few seconds and resume.

Far from having Gigabit ethernet switches, I have an old blue Linksys Wifi b/g 10/100 router, connected to the theater where my Oppo lives by a pair of almost-as-old Verizon Fios routers set up as an ethernet bridge that uses the existing cable tv coax wiring in the region above 1Ghz - a trick called MOCA (for "multimedia over cable") - similar to powerline networking, but in a much quieter environment: cable tv wiring doesn't have background noise of the sort generated by electric motors and other devices.

I went spelunking through every setting in all three routers doing two things: giving traffic to the devices in the theater high priority and turning off any timeout intervals.

Eventually, the problem went away.

I am puzzled by one thing in your post - you say the same problem affects streaming video from your PC, but is avoided by removing the network cable. How would streaming work with the network cable unplugged? Or are you running wireless - which is just barely fast enough for video!

Philnick - Interesting. I too have MOCA devices, so I can get Internet out to my living room. And since my fireplace is between my wireless router, and all my AV equipment, I've found no better way to network to my front room. Wireless? Unreliable at 7Mbps. Powerline? Never higher than 13Mbps. Where the Netgear Coax to Ethernet bridges provide about 35Mbps.

As for the streaming video, obviously I can only do that when the network cable is plugged in. But I was VERY surprised to see that the network video was impact the same was as discs... all because the network cable is plugged in. Sounds like I should try moving the MOCA adapter to another room, or even just unplug it and see if the "interference" with the Oppo goes away. Will try that tonight! Thanks for the help!!!
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smile.gif My problem is now resolved. The issue was with the SYNOLOGY NAS and not the BDP-93. In order for the BDP-93 to function correctly the transcoding settings of the SYNOLOGY must be switched off. Once this was done all video files became visible, and all music files FLAC 24 BIT played as they should.

Thanks Bill
Regards
IW
post #25551 of 26597
Anyone else having problems playing Oblivion? I get the Universal startup intro with sound then nothing. Cleaned the disc, same thing same place. I think my ISO fw has met it's match.
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Universal discs like to futz around on the network (i.e., BD-Live stuff), such as for downloading previews/trailers. First try Erasing Persistent Storage, then power cycle and try the disc. If still no joy, then change BD-Live in Setup to the alternate choice (OFF or ON) from what you normally use, Erase Persistent Storage again, power cycle and try that way. It may be necessary to do this even if you don't have networking connected.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by Geezer View Post

Anyone else having problems playing Oblivion? I get the Universal startup intro with sound then nothing. Cleaned the disc, same thing same place. I think my ISO fw has met it's match.

I also have the ISO firmware and had no issues with Oblivion. Have you tried the usual suspects? Clear persistent storage, enabling/disabling BD-Live or disconnecting the network?
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Originally Posted by duc135 View Post

I also have the ISO firmware and had no issues with Oblivion. Have you tried the usual suspects? Clear persistent storage, enabling/disabling BD-Live or disconnecting the network?
I disabled network & BD-Live & now it's working. First time I had to work this hard. Thanks for the help. Now off to watch. Hope it's worth it ;-)
post #25555 of 26597
I forgot the 93 has pandora and what a difference in sound compared to my iPhone dock for my onkyo av. The dock is to low and the 93 is perfect.
post #25556 of 26597
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Originally Posted by bxbigpipi View Post

I forgot the 93 has pandora and what a difference in sound compared to my iPhone dock for my onkyo av. The dock is to low and the 93 is perfect.

You can always make a lower fidelity signal louder, but that doesn't make it higher fidelity.

However, since Pandora is a streaming service, it's not likely to be available in a lossless format even to the 93 - but it may have different bit rates (and thus fidelity levels) available. It may be that the iPhone app can switch between different quality levels appropriate to running on wifi or using your cellular data plan - I assume that the app built into the 93 doesn't downshift quite as far, since it's going to be running either on wifi or ethernet!
post #25557 of 26597
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Originally Posted by Philnick View Post

You can always make a lower fidelity signal louder, but that doesn't make it higher fidelity.

However, since Pandora is a streaming service, it's not likely to be available in a lossless format even to the 93 - but it may have different bit rates (and thus fidelity levels) available. It may be that the iPhone app can switch between different quality levels appropriate to running on wifi or using your cellular data plan - I assume that the app built into the 93 doesn't downshift quite as far, since it's going to be running either on wifi or ethernet!

Pandora streams at 32 MB per hour, you do the math and will see the bitrate is extremely low, less than 0.1 Mbps. Any internet connection can handle it. There is a premium service with a higher bitrate but even at 10 times the regular one it would still be very low. There is no reason for any downshift .
post #25558 of 26597
I upgraded my A/V to a SONY STR-DN1030. The SONY remote is RM-AAP078. According to the OPPO users manual, page 74, I have to setup to 'Alt. Code', which, strangely, renders the OPPO remote un-usable (unless I go back to 'Code 1' ?).
Oh well.

Per pg. 74 of OPPO manual: "If the universal remote control has a DVD player control function,
please program it with the code for TOSHIBA, PHILIPS, MAGNAVOX, MARANTZ or
ZENITH DVD players."

So the SONY remote has the following codes for PHILIPS, TOSHIBA, ZENITH 'DVD player': 404, 407, 418, 420, and 421. Which one should I use, or is there another one I should use?

Kind Regards to all, and thanks for your help, jeff.
post #25559 of 26597
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

Pandora streams at 32 MB per hour, you do the math and will see the bitrate is extremely low, less than 0.1 Mbps. Any internet connection can handle it. There is a premium service with a higher bitrate but even at 10 times the regular one it would still be very low. There is no reason for any downshift .

I converted 32 Megabyes to Megabits (by multiplying by 8) and got 256. Divided by the 3600 seconds in an hour, it comes out to 0.0711 Mbps, which is less than 0.1 Mbps, as you say.

It works out to about 72.8 Kbps, which is pretty poor, considering that 96 Kbps is the practical minimum for carrying 20-20Khz stereo.

96 Kbps is the sweet-spot for mobile streaming over cellphones - below that you're limited to a top audio frequency of about 10Khz, above that you run into frequent needs to reconnect and rebuffer as you move around.

You'd only need to boost the 72.8 Kbps bit rate by about a third to get to 96 Kbps. At ten times - which I doubt is used by any streaming service - you'd be up to 728 Kbps, competing with Dolby Digital, which used the stream to carry six channels.

It's more likely that the premium service runs in the 128 to 384 Kbps range.
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Originally Posted by merkman View Post

Philnick - Interesting. I too have MOCA devices, so I can get Internet out to my living room. And since my fireplace is between my wireless router, and all my AV equipment, I've found no better way to network to my front room. Wireless? Unreliable at 7Mbps. Powerline? Never higher than 13Mbps. Where the Netgear Coax to Ethernet bridges provide about 35Mbps.

As for the streaming video, obviously I can only do that when the network cable is plugged in. But I was VERY surprised to see that the network video was impact the same was as discs... all because the network cable is plugged in. Sounds like I should try moving the MOCA adapter to another room, or even just unplug it and see if the "interference" with the Oppo goes away. Will try that tonight! Thanks for the help!!!

Finally figured out my problem. Turned off ALL my computers, installed the latest firmware on my router, factory reset the router, and setup everything from scratch, plugging one network cable in at a time till I found the problem.

PLEASE NOTE!!! The HDHomeRun Prime and an Oppo BDP-93 can NOT be plugged into the same switch, in the same room. If they are, the Oppo will "pause" for 3-5 seconds, EVERY 30 SECONDS.

My fix was to move the HDHomeRun Prime into the FRONT room. I have MOCA adapters in the Home Theater Room, and Front Room, so it is able to get a steady 35Mbps, and operates just fine. I haven't tested watching TV again yet, but the Oppo is running fine with networking enabled and the cable plugged in... and that was NOT the case a 1/2 hour ago.

Hope this might help others... cause it was AWEFUL to troubleshoot!!!
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