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post #25891 of 26593
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Originally Posted by Mntneer View Post

So out of the blue my Oppo has started freezing while playing back video of any kind. Blu-Ray discs will play for a few seconds, then pause, then typically resume playing. MKV files both over the network and on a USB stick will play for a few seconds, then pause and then resume playing. Same with Netflix titles. They'll play, freeze then resume. The menu and remote also seem very sluggish. Thinking that maybe updating the firmware to the latest would solve the problem, I updated, still having issues. So I tried resetting to factory defaults, unplugging the unit for a few minutes and trying again (leaving all settings to default this time). Still freezes up.

So now I'm thinking my unit is totally crapping out and I'm going to have to contact Oppo, but was wondering if there is anything else that could be causing the problem.

Any suggestions?

In terms of things YOU can fix, about the only possibility is that your HDMI connections have gone flaky. Perhaps a plug has shifted in its socket? If you have changed ANYTHING recently, anywhere in the HDMI path (end to end), then that change should be suspect.

If you don't spot an obvious problem with any of the HDMI connections (and you haven't changed anything), then simplify your setup to test whether the player still fails.

Disconnect everything from the player except for power and a single HDMI cable direct to your TV. Ideally this should be a new HDMI cable as it is possible one of your existing cables has, e.g., a bent pin. Disconnect EVERYTHING ELSE from that TV -- including any cable or satellite feed. It should just have its own power and the HDMI from the OPPO.

Now play a simple video -- try both a commercial (not copied) SD-DVD and a commercial Blu-ray. Set Deep Color OFF. Try 480p resolution, then 1080i, then 1080p.

If this simple setup WORKS, then there is something screwy in your normal setup. Perhaps one of your devices is putting unusual voltage on the HDMI. Perhaps a USB device expecting to get its power from the OPPO is drawing too much power.

By the way, there's an additional step you can take when forcing a complete reset of the 93:

1) Remove any disc. Jot down your settings.

2) In Setup, Erase Persistent Storage, then Reset Factory defaults.

3) When that finishes power down the player.

4) Unplug the power cord.

5) Also unplug everything else from the player -- HDMI in particular.

6) While the player remains unplugged, press and hold the power button ON THE FRONT PANEL for about 10 seconds. This is the extra step -- it discharges any power retained in the player.

7) Release the power button, re-attach HDMI, plug the player back in and power up.

8) Re-enter your personal settings.

9) Power down one more time. Settings are saved during the power down cycle.

--Bob
post #25892 of 26593
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

If you don't spot an obvious problem with any of the HDMI connections (and you haven't changed anything), then simplify your setup to test whether the player still fails.
Bob, I just finished fixing a HDMI cable problem that took place after four years of trouble free operation.One of my nephew's players was failing to get a signal to the TV via an AVR. I checked all the HDMI connections, but I didn't do it live. Hours later, with a DVD playing, pressing on the bad connection immediately indicated the problem. The movement need to make a difference was so small that I hadn't noticed it the first time around.

Because the instillation was in a very small converted linen closet, it was very hard to get to any of the connections. I had used right angle adapters on all of the HDMI connections. I had to use a mirror to locate the connections. I had also used the back wall of the closet and friction to prevent the cables from dragging on the right angles connectors. Four years of gravity was enough to cause sagging and excessive stress which slightly pulled the right angle connector away from it's port. Bingo, a problem with an installation that hadn't been touched in four years.

I added plastic ties to fight gravity, so I'm hoping that my nephew will have at least another four years of trouble free HDMI connections. eek.gif
post #25893 of 26593
Yep, gravity sucks. biggrin.gif

Another common type of failure like this happens when people install NEW cables! The cables, fresh from the packaging, still have the U-bend kinks from the way they were packaged. Those kinks take a while to go away, and in the course of doing that the tugging on plug in socket changes. Thus problems.

Friction fit plugs -- the gift from HDMI.ORG that just keeps on giving!
--Bob
post #25894 of 26593
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Yep, gravity sucks. biggrin.gif
I've had problems with gravity all my life, but I occasionally have gravity free dreams. biggrin.gif
post #25895 of 26593
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Originally Posted by abilyeu View Post

Just to add my experience, I watched the Monsters U non-3D Blu-Ray with the 7.1 track and BDP-93 set to LPCM. I had no audio issues whatsoever. This is my default setup, so I didn't try bitstreaming.


BTW, I was mistaken. My Coax audio was set to LPCM but my HDMI was set to "auto" when problems persisted. I forced it to LCPM and that SEEMS to have solved the issue.

What do you lose by using LPCM full-time rather than Bitstreaming or auto-select?
post #25896 of 26593
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Originally Posted by susanandmark View Post

BTW, I was mistaken. My Coax audio was set to LPCM but my HDMI was set to "auto" when problems persisted. I forced it to LCPM and that SEEMS to have solved the issue.

What do you lose by using LPCM full-time rather than Bitstreaming or auto-select?

There should be no difference. You lose certain indicator lights on the receiver. We have thoughts on this in the BDP-83 FAQ: Should I perform audio decoding in the player or in the receiver?

With AUTO the player asks the receiver what format it wants. I never trust that sort of intelligence in consumer electronics and find it best to use a specific setting, LPCM in this case.

-Bill
post #25897 of 26593
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Originally Posted by wesslan1 View Post

Same here. Watched the 2D version on my 93 and also had dropouts. Solved by switching to LPCM.
Same here it was sold bad,I put the movie in a different player my Panasonic BDT-330 the audio drop out only once in 40 minutes of watching.Im going try that movie in all my Bluray players in see what happens,who know's it might me the movie.
post #25898 of 26593
Any news with the problem caused by the latest update on playing 3D material (it is a shame that this happens)? Perhaps Neuromancer know something?

Thanks
post #25899 of 26593
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Originally Posted by Jorge Garcia View Post

Any news with the problem caused by the latest update on playing 3D material (it is a shame that this happens)? Perhaps Neuromancer know something?

Thanks

Could you remind us of the specific problem?

-Bill
post #25900 of 26593
Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

Ok this latest firmware has been total crap. Not only has my 24 FPS with standard DVD been screwed up but I've also noticed that 3D content is experiencing a frame jump. Last night I watched House of Wax (1st 3d material I've viewed since the upgrade) and it jumped / stuttered throughout and I thought I would put my mind at ease that maybe it was the title itself so I put on the Imax Under the Sea and the same issue was noticable (I've viewed this title myself numerous times with no issues until this last week). The only thing that has changed since the firmware update last week with my set up has been "THE FIRMWARE UPDATE". Oppo is typically very good about this sort of thing but lets just say that the "be sure you have the player set to 24FPS (on)" was a bit insulting and short sided after the detailed explanation I provided in my e-mail to them. I'm making a bit of additional noise here because I feel that the responses I've received so far have been less then valuable from Oppo. Not real sure what to do at this point outside of moving on past this player which I'm not too thrilled with after spending $499 less than 2 years ago on it.

I know this is sounding a bit like a rant versus anything helpful or productive but I'm just bit frustrated when following an update pushed by the manufacturer I start to have issues where none existed before and the only advice given is to start making changes to my gear or blame the material I'm viewing. By the way I should mention that the material I'm having issues with is not pirated / ripped material but legitmate studio releases.

Ok so I've e-mailed Oppo about this with a sample video. I appoligize for the blur in the picture but the only way to produce the issue is to view it in 3d (unfortunately without the glasses here). Anyhow if you look at 10 seconds you'll see a wobble to the picture. This when viewing a 3d Blu Ray is happening every couple of minutes and when viewing properly with the glasses on you can see the whole image shift / jump. It is repeatable in the same spots but is a constant on all 3d Material played through the Oppo since the last update. Any thoughts?
3d sample.zip 5120k .zip file
Edited by SteveCaron - 10/29/13 at 12:00pm

This what Oppo said:
OPPO Service

Jorge,

The errors have been replicated, but our previous statement still applies as there is no resolution to this problem. We are still investigating what changed in the firmware to cause this error and it will take time to properly isolate, test, and release a new firmware to fix 3D playback errors.


Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119
post #25901 of 26593
I've been taking many of the steps suggested here, trying to trial and error out the problem. I'm beginning to think it's relating to my network afterall. Changing displays, cables, power sources, had no effect on the problem, but disconnecting the Ethernet cable has given me flawless playback on Blu-Ray's and MKV's off of USB sticks.

I'm currently in the process of rebooting my network (had to take a couple days off the de-bugging so I'm just getting to it) to see if that solves the problem, as I suspect I may have a Router that is beginning to fail (it's shown signs of odd behavior lately). I just never suspected that the player would be effected by network issues while playing from local media, but maybe there is some network activity while even playing an MKV from USB.

Thanks for the help.
post #25902 of 26593
I always up-date my software when it is first released......for some reason I opted to wait on this one......good thing I did!!
Actually I turned on the player last night and it did not prompt me to up-grade.

Hope this gets fixed soon, Oppo has always been great about this sort of thing.

Paul
post #25903 of 26593
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Originally Posted by hidefpaul View Post

I always up-date my software when it is first released......for some reason I opted to wait on this one......good thing I did!!
Actually I turned on the player last night and it did not prompt me to up-grade.

Hope this gets fixed soon, Oppo has always been great about this sort of thing.

Paul
I'm happy for you, lucky man!
post #25904 of 26593
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Originally Posted by Jorge Garcia View Post

I'm happy for you, lucky man!

Lol!

I haven't updated mine since sometime last year. Just my luck I picked this one to catch up mad.gif
post #25905 of 26593
I hope Oppo promptly provides a fix for the double pillar box issue for 4:3 content. I don't see how this bug made it into the latest official build. That build was in Beta for a bit over a year!

Has anyone found a workaround other than turning off Auto and using an Aspect ratio setting on your TV/projector?
post #25906 of 26593
^ There's no such problem playing 4:3 SD-DVDs, using HDMI 1 output, with explicit 1080p and "16:9 Wide/Auto".

If you are talking about problems with media files playback, I'll have to let others answer, as I do very little of that, and the answer is almost certainly tied to which file formats are in use.
--Bob
post #25907 of 26593
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Originally Posted by riffer View Post

Lol!

I haven't updated mine since sometime last year. Just my luck I picked this one to catch up mad.gif
Well, the current update is the first since last year and look what is going on, after a year of waiting judge for yourself what is happening
post #25908 of 26593
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Originally Posted by Mntneer View Post

I'm beginning to think it's relating to my network afterall. Changing displays, cables, power sources, had no effect on the problem, but disconnecting the Ethernet cable has given me flawless playback on Blu-Ray's and MKV's off of USB sticks.

It's the studios detecting over the internet that you are infringing copyright by playing copies and crippling the output. ;-)

Seriously though, that's an interesting correlation. I have never connected the internet to my Oppo because none of the internet related functions are remotely interesting to me.
post #25909 of 26593
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Originally Posted by riffer View Post

Lol!

I haven't updated mine since sometime last year. Just my luck I picked this one to catch up mad.gif

The previous firmware that was out there for a year and a half was flawless for physical media playback but this last one is causing issues for me on just about everything (blu-ray, DVD, 3D Blu-ray). Since this last update I look at my player with almost the same feeling that one would have after their 4 year old has thrown a Wii controller into their 8 month old 60 inch Panel! eek.gif
post #25910 of 26593
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Originally Posted by Jorge Garcia View Post

I'm happy for you, lucky man!

Judging from your remark, I assume you up-dated Jorge.

I actually sympathize with all those whose players have been affected, I too went through a similar problem with my old Pioneer BDP 51 and it sucks, I know!

BTW, in no way was my comment to make anyone feel bad about this matter.

Paul
post #25911 of 26593
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

It's the studios detecting over the internet that you are infringing copyright by playing copies and crippling the output. ;-)

Seriously though, that's an interesting correlation. I have never connected the internet to my Oppo because none of the internet related functions are remotely interesting to me.

Currently I use it for my Netflix viewing, as well as my media server stuff, but once I get into my new house it's going to solely be used for Blu-Ray in the theater so I won't worry about the network connection. But for now.... too addicted to some shows to stop. smile.gif
post #25912 of 26593
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Originally Posted by hidefpaul View Post

Judging from your remark, I assume you up-dated Jorge.

I actually sympathize with all those whose players have been affected, I too went through a similar problem with my old Pioneer BDP 51 and it sucks, I know!

BTW, in no way was my comment to make anyone feel bad about this matter.

Paul
Thank you very much for your solidarity Paul, actually and unfortunately I upgraded my player with the latest firmware, please be aware all of you do not upgrade yours players until Oppo offer a real , effectively and reliably solution to this problem and hopefully soon , because this problem is hurting everyone, which as myself trust this company
post #25913 of 26593

I currently own the Oppo BDP-83 and was considering an upgrade to one of the newer Oppo players.  My main goal would be to improve video performance and have a cleaner picture which resulted in better clarity or sharpness.  My monitor is an old Pioneer SD-643HD5.  I have HDMI through the Oppo running to an HD Fury 3 using the RGB in the Pioneer.  I was wondering if the new technology in the 103(regular or Darbee) or 105 would help.  I use this TV essentially for movies.  I have had it professionally calibrated and like the picture but I would pay for improved definition.  Can anyone tell me if I would see a noticeable difference between the original and the new 103s?  Does anyone have some screen shots of the older players compared to the new ones?

 

Anticipated thanks,

Jim

post #25914 of 26593
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Originally Posted by Jimmpls View Post

I currently own the Oppo BDP-83 and was considering an upgrade to one of the newer Oppo players.  My main goal would be to improve video performance and have a cleaner picture which resulted in better clarity or sharpness.  My monitor is an old Pioneer SD-643HD5.  I have HDMI through the Oppo running to an HD Fury 3 using the RGB in the Pioneer.  I was wondering if the new technology in the 103(regular or Darbee) or 105 would help.  I use this TV essentially for movies.  I have had it professionally calibrated and like the picture but I would pay for improved definition.  Can anyone tell me if I would see a noticeable difference between the original and the new 103s?  Does anyone have some screen shots of the older players compared to the new ones?

Anticipated thanks,
Jim

Your BDP-83 will best any of the 93 or 103 models for DVD scaling. This is based on your wish for a "clear, sharp" image. BD playback will be identical for the most part. The compelling reasons to trade up would be for features, not for image quality, and the 103 has substantially expanded features.
post #25915 of 26593

Thanks for your answer.  So sounds like the 83 has the best up scaling for DVD from newer models.  I also did a mod because I have many DVD title form my time in Europe so it looks like I have the perfect player still.  Just thought I could be "happier". Thanks again.  Jim

post #25916 of 26593
^ Since this is the 93 thread, and being an owner of both the 93 and 83, I can tell you the 93 certainly does not handle DVDs better than the 83.

Some say the 103 pretty much equals the 83 in that regard, but IDK. Since I have thousands of DVDs and still buy them (only way to get some stuff), DVD capability is a big deal for me. Playing back the BDs well is trivial at this point, my $50 region-free BDP matches the 83 and has some better features even. DVDs are much harder.
post #25917 of 26593
Well it seems to be my freezing issues have to do with the "My Network" setting in the Oppo. Whenever I disconnect the network cable, or turn off this setting, the player plays everything perfectly fine. But whenever this setting is on I get the freezing. So something on my network is throwing this thing for a loop now. I can go back to playing Netflix, but can't use oShare now, which I use at least 2 or 3 times a week.

Any suggestions?
post #25918 of 26593
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Originally Posted by counsil View Post

I hope Oppo promptly provides a fix for the double pillar box issue for 4:3 content. I don't see how this bug made it into the latest official build. That build was in Beta for a bit over a year!

Has anyone found a workaround other than turning off Auto and using an Aspect ratio setting on your TV/projector?

If you mean watching streamed 4:3, a previous post mentioned opening the disc door while playing. That works for me. You can close the door after if you like. I find that when I pause a streamed video, it reverts and I have to hit the eject button again. This also applies to anamorphic widescreen that gets squashed horizontally. I have a bunch of MKVs that I made from some TV shows on DVD. 16:9 and 4:3 get squashed but opening the disc tray mysteriously corrects the problem.

Jim
post #25919 of 26593
I must have missed that post. I will give your suggestions a try.

Thanks...
post #25920 of 26593
Does anyone know if the Oppo BDP-93 has an Auto-Off? In other words, if the player is not playing it will turn off after a certain amount of time elapses.
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