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post #26191 of 26581

Isn´t there any kind of solution for this problem?

I have many 3D MKV movies and I was expecting I could add subtitles...

Will be there a new firmware release addressing this problem? Is there any kind of workaround?

 

Thanks in advance! 

post #26192 of 26581
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I don't recall any reports. Does it play ok on other machines?

Unfortunately, the 93 is the only Blu-ray player I have connected at the moment.
There should be somewhere that you can try playing your disk. From your post we can't tell if it's a flaw in the disk, or a dirty spot on the disk. It's not very likely that it's the player based on what you've posted.
post #26193 of 26581
Hello Everyone,

Just subscribed this thread. Just curious - is anyone experiencing their BDP 93 freezing up when connected to HDMI 1 to their TV or receiver?

Below are the symptoms:
-This week, I upgraded my Anthem MRX700 to MRX710 Receiver. Had no issues with BDP 93 until I upgraded to the receiver using HDMI 1 output of the Oppo.
-Since the upgrade, the Oppo freezes when it turns on ... it will go to Hello to Oppo then freezes.
-Disconnected the BDP93 from the receiver and connected directly to the TV....including different HDMI & Power Cord....same symptom.
-The receiver is not the culprit .. I think ... since I tested HDMI devices (including the inputs I used for Oppo) and they are working perfectly through my receiver.

When outputted from HDMI 2 from Oppo- everything works like a charm!

Contacted Oppo Customer Support via email - Very very helpful and they even responded to my emails on troubleshooting my issue during X'mas day!

Debating to send the player back for repairs or just buy the BDP-103D (4k upscaling, no QDEO chip, etc, etc).... I have a feeling QDEO video processor is causing my HDMI 1 connectivity issues.

Just curious if anyone in this forum have the above issue?
post #26194 of 26581
^ Check and make sure HDMI CEC is turned off under setup. Also inspect your HDMI 1 for any physical damage.
post #26195 of 26581
CEC disabled & also checked the HDMI 1 port for any physical damage. I googled / searched in AVS forum - some people experienced handshake issues on their HDMI 1 on the BDP....I am suspecting this may be the culprit or not.......
post #26196 of 26581
Strange what happens if you knock the resolution down to 720P does it come up?
Were you using HDMI 1 previously?
post #26197 of 26581
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I don't recall any reports. Does it play ok on other machines?

I just dusted off my PS3, plugged it in and updated the firmware. Yeah, the scene skips there too. I guess it must be a problem with the disc after all. Thanks for your help anyway.
post #26198 of 26581
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Originally Posted by adept777 View Post

I have the BDP-93 with the latest firmware. Can I rollback the firmware to play ISO? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

^ Hands can of worms and opener to adept.

Short answer maybe. Best take it to PM.

This is only a can of worms here on AVS when folks inquire how to modify their firmware through unconventional means. I can't remember the exact reason why... maybe it had something to do with AVS trying to prevent folks from bricking their devices.

My advice... Call Oppo; they will aid you in restoring your Oppo to an older version of firmware, even if your motive is to restore ISO functionality. They helped me. They even emailed me very detailed instructions on how to do it. They said if I couldn't get it to work, or if I didn't feel comfortable doing it myself, I could send our BDP-93's in for them to do it for us. Shipping costs would have been on us.

Even after getting ISO functionality restored to both of our BDP-93's, I ended out upgrading to the latest firmware releases a while back. ISO functionality wasn't worth it to us because we convert all of our shiny discs to MKV format and stream them from a Synology NAS. Having several hard drives laying around wasn't feasible for us (no streaming capabilities with ISO's). We still have a couple dozen blu-rays that I converted to BDMV folder format on an external hard drive. I don't even have it attached to a BDP-93 because of the added startup time it requires.

Don't let the moderators, beta testers, or anyone else let you think restoring ISO functionality (or reverting to any earlier firmware release) is wrong. It is not because Oppo does allow it. At this point it may require the work of Oppo directly in order to do it. They told me something about measures were going to be put in place to prevent 'normal' users/owners from doing it in the future. Most of this was told to me directly from an Oppo tech/engineer (not sure of his title) over the phone. Therefore I don't recall the exact conversation.

Just call Oppo. They are an awesome bunch of folks. I would be surprised if they don't bend over backwards to help you.

[begin apology]

What I meant to say above was:

Don't let the past comments by moderators, beta testers, or anyone else let you think restoring ISO functionality (or reverting to any earlier firmware release) is wrong. Their posts were probably more geared towards 'harm reduction'.

I spend 30 minutes carefully crafting the post above to make it as 'politically correct' as possible, and I still ended out potentially offending others (moderators no less)!

[/end apology]
Edited by counsil - 12/26/13 at 11:40am
post #26199 of 26581
I will try to bump it down to 720p and see. Did that previously from Auto to 1080P on HDMI 2 and switched to HDMI 1 ... NO LUCK. It appears HDMI 1 port is bad on my machine or the QDEO chip is causing problems....as seen in other posts.

I agree the above post - OPPO customer support is awesome!
post #26200 of 26581
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Originally Posted by counsil View Post


This is only a can of worms here on AVS when folks inquire how to modify their firmware through unconventional means. I can't remember the exact reason why... maybe it had something to do with AVS trying to prevent folks from bricking their devices.

My advice... Call Oppo; they will aid you in restoring your Oppo to an older version of firmware, even if your motive is to restore ISO functionality. They helped me. They even emailed me very detailed instructions on how to do it. They said if I couldn't get it to work, or if I didn't feel comfortable doing it myself, I could send our BDP-93's in for them to do it for us. Shipping costs would have been on us.

Even after getting ISO functionality restored to both of our BDP-93's, I ended out upgrading to the latest firmware releases a while back. ISO functionality wasn't worth it to us because we convert all of our shiny discs to MKV format and stream them from a Synology NAS. Having several hard drives laying around wasn't feasible for us (no streaming capabilities with ISO's). We still have a couple dozen blu-rays that I converted to BDMV folder format on an external hard drive. I don't even have it attached to a BDP-93 because of the added startup time it requires.

Don't let the moderators, beta testers, or anyone else let you think restoring ISO functionality (or reverting to any earlier firmware release) is wrong. It is not because Oppo does allow it. At this point it may require the work of Oppo directly in order to do it. They told me something about measures were going to be put in place to prevent 'normal' users/owners from doing it in the future. Most of this was told to me directly from an Oppo tech/engineer (not sure of his title) over the phone. Therefore I don't recall the exact conversation.

Just call Oppo. They are an awesome bunch of folks. I would be surprised if they don't bend over backwards to help you.

[begin apology]

What I meant to say above was:

Don't let the past comments by moderators, beta testers, or anyone else let you think restoring ISO functionality (or reverting to any earlier firmware release) is wrong. Their posts were probably more geared towards 'harm reduction'.

I spend 30 minutes carefully crafting the post above to make it as 'politically correct' as possible, and I still ended out potentially offending others (moderators no less)!

[/end apology]
The issue with ISO functionality is that it's a touchy subject because the powers-that-be at the movie studios, BDA, etc. don't like it. So the moderators banned public discussion here of finding ways to revert the firmware because they don't want the forum falling through thin ice and ending up on the wrong side of a lawsuit or other ugliness from those powers-that-be.

The beta testers can't share info we don't have or info that Oppo hasn't told us we can share, so we aren't at liberty to discuss ways to revert firmware (regardless of whether we know how or not). I'm pretty sure we've mostly told people who want to revert to ISO firmware to contact Oppo for assistance. But there's also the issue of reverting to older firmware to get that ISO support versus having the latest firmware with bug fixes and/or new fixes - it's sort of inevitable that sooner or later most users will run into a bug they need fixed OR want a new feature that's only available in the newer firmware. So in most cases, it's probably best to "forget" that ISO support ever existed and upgrade to the latest firmware. As you said yourself, there are other ways to play your ripped movies back - such as converting them to MKV - which lessens the case for "needing" ISO support.
post #26201 of 26581
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

The issue with ISO functionality is that it's a touchy subject because the powers-that-be at the movie studios, BDA, etc. don't like it. So the moderators banned public discussion here of finding ways to revert the firmware because they don't want the forum falling through thin ice and ending up on the wrong side of a lawsuit or other ugliness from those powers-that-be.
I respect the moderators policy and always try to take any iso talk out of this thread. Having said that there is pretty much an entire forum here (Network, Media Servers and Content Streaming) built around iso functionality so I'm not so sure I buy the above.
post #26202 of 26581
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

I respect the moderators policy and always try to take any iso talk out of this thread. Having said that there is pretty much an entire forum here (Network, Media Servers and Content Streaming) built around iso functionality so I'm not so sure I buy the above.
There's a big difference in the rules that exist for a media player that doesn't have Bluray licensing versus a Bluray player that does.
post #26203 of 26581
Got my BDP-93 to work through HDMI 1 - by calling Oppo customer support. Apparently my 4k tv had a firmware update that caused the problem. Oppo provided me with the link of the beta firmware and my player works like a champ! Saved me $600 on the Oppo 103D....perhaps next year I will get the next model!
post #26204 of 26581
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Originally Posted by bremler View Post

How about if I want to compress the video, open up the ISO and replace the h.264 1920 picture with a h.264 1280 counterpart that was compressed by Handbrake.

If you are happy with the quality loss resulting from converting 1080p to 720p, then surely you would also be happy enough losing lossless audio and just going with lossy: it plays much better as mkv that way.

However, in response to the issue of replacing 1080p with 720p in an ISO, I understand that Bluray structure maintains AV characteristics of the m2ts files in the Clipinfo .cli files: if you are changing the m2ts file characteristics, you would also need to change the .cli files too and there may be other places in the Bluray structure that maintains AV info that needs to be consistent. Bluray is very much like DVD in the way it maintains characteristics for playback in external files from the vob (or m2ts) files. There is also the issue of PGS subtitles now being the wrong resolution if you have only compressed the video.

Quite frankly, I wouldn't bother wasting time compressing 1080p to 720p and modifying ISO as storage is cheap enough now. However, you might want to consider using ClownBD to create a movie-only ISO to minimise file sizes but retain quality and navigation.

Otherwise, save your money, don't buy Bluray and purchase iTunes or equivalent versions instead: it's pointless investing in a Bluray setup if you are happy with 720p.

I blame the studios for this compression phenomenon by not doing justice to the 1080p Bluray format: every release should be "mastered in 4K" quality with minimal filtering.
Edited by IanD - 12/27/13 at 7:36am
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Problems with wireless USB and OPPO 93 freezing

I have the OPPO DVD 93 and when the wireless USB is inserting prior to powering on player, I get "no disk" as message. When I try to go to home menu, it will not do anything at all. I power it off, insert a DVD disk in player, and the home menu appears, but again, it freezes. I cannot eject disk, I cannot move off first icon. I have to power off again. This is when USB wireless device is inserted prior to starting up.

If I remove the USB Wireless device, then start up DVD player with disk in, I get home menu screen. I then insert USB wireless device, then have to go to setup menu, and even though wireless is checked, I recheck it again, and have to go through the connect to internet process again. At that point, I can go to Netflix and load in some movie titles.

Does anyone have any idea what could be possibly wrong or how I can correct this issue? As I said, if this wireless USB adapter is inserted prior to startup, I get a freezed control over every action but turning off, which responds very slowly after hit. All is done on remote control. Wireless is marked in setup. I have latest firmware update installed.

Thanks in advance.
post #26206 of 26581
Thread Starter 
If you have something like the HomeRun in your network, then you will need to disconnect the HomeRun or the player from the network, or set My Network to OFF under Network Setup. Otherwise, the HomeRun will just continue to flood the player with network data until it freezes.
post #26207 of 26581
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

However, in response to the issue of replacing 1080p with 720p in an ISO, I understand that Bluray structure maintains AV characteristics of the m2ts files in the Clipinfo .cli files: if you are changing the m2ts file characteristics, you would also need to change the .cli files too and there may be other places in the Bluray structure that maintains AV info that needs to be consistent. Bluray is very much like DVD in the way it maintains characteristics for playback in external files from the vob (or m2ts) files. There is also the issue of PGS subtitles now being the wrong resolution if you have only compressed the video.

Thanks for this. For now I'm converting everything to M2TS container, will have to make do without chapters but at least it can contain a compressed video and high definition audio and PGS subtitles natively. M2TS is marginally bigger in size than MKV, and the unit will freeze for up to 2 minutes when trying to seek within the movie.

Out of curiosity, I had another BDP93, sold now, that was running a later firmware version without the ISO. It definitely supported multichannel FLAC within an MKV container. The
ISO capable unit I've bought, doesn't support flac withink MKV (audio is not supported). Was the FLAC/MKV capability introduced in later firmware version, can anyone
confirm? I'm pondering whether or not to change the firmware and lose the ISO....playback of 3D isos were really the only benefits, but my laptop running TMT can also play a mounted 3D Iso. Also you can't stream isos over the network like you can mkv /m2ts.

It seems with the OPPO there's always compromises to be made with user generated media!
post #26208 of 26581
Does anyone know if there's any way to use the Oppo remote (BDP-103) as a universal.. i.e.: to turn on the tv, receiver, etc..
post #26209 of 26581
^ No, the OPPO remote is not a universal.
--Bob
post #26210 of 26581
Thread Starter 
Unfortunately no. It is possible to use HDMI CEC to turn on and off the devices, but the player's remote will not be able to do this discretely.
post #26211 of 26581
I'm sure it has already been discussed on here but unfortunately I have been unable to locate it.

My problem is while watching netflix through my BDP-93 the playback while panning is extremely notchy. I don't believe I noticed it while playing to my 50" Panasonic plasma but ever since upgrading to a Sharp 80" it is almost unbearable. Just trying to determine if it is a player problem or more of a screen problem.

Thanks for any help,
Bret
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Originally Posted by zapco View Post

I'm sure it has already been discussed on here but unfortunately I have been unable to locate it.

My problem is while watching netflix through my BDP-93 the playback while panning is extremely notchy. I don't believe I noticed it while playing to my 50" Panasonic plasma but ever since upgrading to a Sharp 80" it is almost unbearable. Just trying to determine if it is a player problem or more of a screen problem.

Thanks for any help,
Bret



I stopped using the Netflix app on the 93, due mostly because of the limited audio. Does your Samsung come with a Netflix app?
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Sorry no samsung here, just the Oppo.
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Originally Posted by zapco View Post

Sorry no samsung here, just the Oppo.


Sorry I meant your Sharp TV.
post #26215 of 26581
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Sorry I meant your Sharp TV.

Yes it does but with the receiver (Pioneer VSX-53) I haven't found a way to get sound out of T.V. and back through the receiver using the HDMI.
post #26216 of 26581
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Originally Posted by zapco View Post

Yes it does but with the receiver (Pioneer VSX-53) I haven't found a way to get sound out of T.V. and back through the receiver using the HDMI.



If your Sharp and AVR support ARC through HDMI you can do it that way or use an optical output from the panel to your AVR.

Edit;
I looked into your AVR and it does support ARC and I'm assuming your panel does also. Do you know how to connect it this way to get audio back from the panel via HDMI?
Edited by comfynumb - 12/28/13 at 4:32pm
post #26217 of 26581
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

If your Sharp and AVR support ARC through HDMI you can do it that way or use an optical output from the panel to your AVR.

Edit;
I looked into your AVR and it does support ARC and I'm assuming your panel does also. Do you know how to connect it this way to get audio back from the panel via HDMI?

When I initially bought the receiver roughly 2 years ago I tried using ARC but for some reason it would not cooperate. With a visit to the bulletin boards showed that a lot of people with the same AVR were having the same issue so I never persued it much after that. I guess I can try again.

Thanks for your feed back.
post #26218 of 26581
Or, use an optical connection, which is generally simpler and more reliable than ARC.
post #26219 of 26581
Hi Guys,

I´ve found that I´m having an issue with my OPPO BDP-93...
Finally, I´ve decided to start burning to BD-R my MKV movies collection...
And on the first BD-R recorded with 4 MKV movies on it, only one movie worked...

I tried all what I founded, about stripped headers, MKVToolnix 4.1.1 old version, CUE information removed and a few more things, but nothing worked.

The curious thing is if the same file burned into the BD-R disc is copied to a USB drive, it plays perfect, but it doesn't from the BD-R disc...

I converted the MKV using MKVTOOLNIX and HANDBRAKE, but the result is the same... it doesn´t work from the BD Drive but it does from a USB drive.

My OPPO BDP-93 is UPDATED with the 10/18/2013 - Official 79-0910 Firmware.

All my MKVs are managed with the same computer, an iMac with OSX 10.9.1, and the BD-R are burnt using a Samsung USB external BD recorder with Toast Titanium Software.

I hope someone can help me to fix this up.

Thanks to all!

Regards
Edited by bajinchi - 12/29/13 at 12:48pm
post #26220 of 26581
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Originally Posted by bajinchi View Post

Hi Guys,

I´ve found that I´m having an issue with my OPPO BDP-93...
Finally, I´ve decided to start burning to BD-R my MKV movies collection...
And on the first BD-R recorded with 4 MKV movies on it, only one movie worked...

That it plays from USB but not from optical disc is odd. It indicates nothing wrong with the file itself, and your player doesn't have Cinavia, which would kick in and produce a message after 20 minutes or so.

Can you mount the disc on a computer and play every file with software, say vlc?

-Bill
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