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post #3271 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The player is very quiet and does not produce that much hear (hence why there is no fan on the back of the player). At least it will be quieter and run cooler than the PS3.

I agree, this player is very quiet, and cool. It was mentioned here in the beginning, that disca would come out warm, but IMO they arent even that warm.
post #3272 of 25204
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Originally Posted by caesar1 View Post

What is there about Marvell's chip that causes the green flashes that you don't see on the other chips? You would think it would be a simple fix if other chips don't have it.

I couldn't say...but I do find it interesting that the only 2 players I've had to display green flashes on my equipment are the LG BH200 and the BDP-93, both with Marvel chips. My BDP-93 is connected to Pioneer equipment (AVR and TV...I had the LG connected to a Pioneer TV and Onkyo receiver)...what about yours?
post #3273 of 25204
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

I couldn't say...but I do find it interesting that the only 2 players I've had to display green flashes on my equipment are the LG BH200 and the BDP-93, both with Marvel chips. My BDP-93 is connected to Pioneer equipment (AVR and TV...I had the LG connected to a Pioneer TV and Onkyo receiver)...what about yours?

I never noticed the green flashes with the previous firmware, that's why I think it's a bug.

Got this email from Oppo after I reported it:

"This is likely related to the player showing junk data as it switches from the Netflix GUI to the actual content. This is something that has been reported by our Beta Testers and will be investigated for possible resolution through firmware"
post #3274 of 25204
I am completely new to SACD. My 93 is connected for audio via HDMi2 to my Sony STR-DA3400ES. I listen to BR and DVD content at about -14dB. When I first inserted a hybrid SACD(RCA Living Stereo) the volume load stressed my system and my ears and I turned down the volume to -25dB. I changed the setup so that SACD and CD will not play immediately so I am reminded to turn the volume down. I read in the manual and wiki that the volume controls on the player are for analog outputs only. Am I missing something? Does anyone have a better work around? Should I contact OPPO and suggest some time of volume leveling firmware update. My Sony AVR does not have such a feature as far as I can tell.
post #3275 of 25204
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

I couldn't say...but I do find it interesting that the only 2 players I've had to display green flashes on my equipment are the LG BH200 and the BDP-93, both with Marvel chips. My BDP-93 is connected to Pioneer equipment (AVR and TV...I had the LG connected to a Pioneer TV and Onkyo receiver)...what about yours?

I have an Onkyo TX-SR805 receiver. HDMI video passes through receiver to an Epson projector.
post #3276 of 25204
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Originally Posted by rjh65@verizon.ne View Post

Yes I just got the all snow screen a little while ago which I never got with the BDP-83. I will email Oppo immediately

Interesting, thanks.
post #3277 of 25204
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

I never noticed the green flashes with the previous firmware, that's why I think it's a bug.

Got this email from Oppo after I reported it:

"This is likely related to the player showing junk data as it switches from the Netflix GUI to the actual content. This is something that has been reported by our Beta Testers and will be investigated for possible resolution through firmware"

That doesn't make sense as you see the green flashes (at least with my setup), when you don't engage Netflix at all. When you simply turn on the player and insert a blu-ray and start blu-ray playback.
post #3278 of 25204
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Originally Posted by DeStefano View Post

I am completely new to SACD. My 93 is connected for audio via HDMi2 to my Sony STR-DA3400ES. I listen to BR and DVD content at about -14dB. When I first inserted a hybrid SACD(RCA Living Stereo) the volume load stressed my system and my ears and I turned down the volume to -25dB. I changed the setup so that SACD and CD will not play immediately so I am reminded to turn the volume down. I read in the manual and wiki that the volume controls on the player are for analog outputs only. Am I missing something? Does anyone have a better work around? Should I contact OPPO and suggest some time of volume leveling firmware update. My Sony AVR does not have such a feature as far as I can tell.

Does your Sony AVR process DSD via HDMI? Try changing your SACD output setting to PCM. Oppo cannot alter differences in processing in an AVR, which is responsible for volume level, nor alter differences in source material's volume levels when using a digital output. Also suggest you try different SACDs.
post #3279 of 25204
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Originally Posted by caesar1 View Post

That doesn't make sense as you see the green flashes (at least with my setup), when you don't engage Netflix at all. When you simply turn on the player and insert a blu-ray and start blu-ray playback.

When I reported the problem I had only noticed it playing Netflix but later I realized it happens with DVDs and Bluray as well. Oppo's reply only mentions Netflix because that was part of my question. You are right but Oppo knows about the green flashes.
post #3280 of 25204
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

You are right but Oppo knows about the green flashes.

Those "Green Flashes" are OPPO's way of promoting the new upcoming "Green Hornet" movie.

Merry Christmas!
post #3281 of 25204
Thanks rdgrimes for your quick reply. I have the SACD output set for PCM because I did not see anything in the AVR manual about DSD decoding (I seem to remember that the bigger brother 4400 offered DSD). When I went to the 93 setup screen I changed the SACD output to DSD and the bullet moved but when I actually played the disc the display showed "SACD PCM." I guess the HDMi handshake recognized that my AVR required PCM. I am amazed that playing a SACD that my modest system can create such a sonic field and dynamic range. I guess 25 years of listening to heavily compressed music had dulled my brain.
post #3282 of 25204
Remote control Failure After Firmware Update.

I can't use the Forward-Back buttons to selct next trackor chapter. Is there a reset to factory defaults process?

I can change tracks or chapters on the player itself, just not the remote.
I changed the batteries & did the reset mentioned in the Manual by holding the enter button for 5 seconds with the tray ejected...no luck.

Anyone else hear of this....what did you choose to do ?

Thanks
David Perry
post #3283 of 25204
This post is applicable to the 33-1216 firmware. Mostly confirmation for Neuromancer so he can update the post & the FAQ.

I'm having fun playing with the DLNA side of life. I'm using PS3 Media Server on Windows 7 as my DLNA server.

Had great success packing VC1 into an MKV wrapper and getting the video to play flawlessly over wired network (sadly, my wireless drops frames and gets stuttery since i'm still using an old 802.11g Airport Extreme AP), but I haven't been able to find a multi-channel surround codec that works over DLNA in an MKV wrapper.

I've tried both Dolby TrueHD (in its native 24-bit MLP) and also transcoding to 16-bit FLAC. Both audio streams result in a dialog that says 'audio type is not supported' when playback begins, which I find amusing(!) since Oppo loudly advertises their support for both FLAC and Dolby TrueHD... and I know for certain TrueHD works fine as I have lots of Blu discs that feature it. ;-)

Now, I've read much of the thread (thanks, Neuro!) and I understand that the support for these things is sketchy or non-existent over the DLNA side of things. I just wanted to add further confirmation that the player still isn't living up to its capabilities and decoding MLP/TrueHD or FLAC over the network pipe (either wired or wireless) via DLNA.

I'm going to try the USB-attached HDD next, but I'm not holding my breath. Seriously bummed that this isn't working (yet?)... I'm hoping that if this does work I might actually be able to watch some of my "red shirt" casualties from the last format war again without compromising the quality thereof...

Oh... one last note. I was *not* able to get an .M2TS file to play with 1080p VC-1 and MLP/TrueHD audio to play at all... even the video. It soft-locked the player each time I tried shortly after loading began.

Edit: Merry Christmas everybody. =^)
post #3284 of 25204
Hello,
I have not had any Remote Control issues since the FW Update. Rather, the Remote finally is somewhat usable whereas prior I had to be standing next to the 93 for the RC to work.

Now, the RC will marginally work from my Couch, but still my Onkyo Remote from my TX-NR3007 works far better as it had prior to the Update.

I am sorry that you are having issues with your RC. OPPO's Tech Support is as good as it gets and they will no doubt be able to help you by Monday.
Cheers,
AD
post #3285 of 25204
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Originally Posted by jeremya View Post


I've tried both Dolby TrueHD (in its native 24-bit MLP) and also transcoding to 16-bit FLAC. Both audio streams result in a dialog that says 'audio type is not supported' when playback begins, which I find amusing(!) since Oppo loudly advertises their support for both FLAC and Dolby TrueHD... and I know for certain TrueHD works fine as I have lots of Blu discs that feature it. ;-)

Now, I've read much of the thread (thanks, Neuro!) and I understand that the support for these things is sketchy or non-existent over the DLNA side of things. I just wanted to add further confirmation that the player still isn't living up to its capabilities and decoding MLP/TrueHD or FLAC over the network pipe (either wired or wireless) via DLNA.

Are you specifically referring to multi-channel FLAC?

I'm using TVersity (most recent free build) running on Windows Server 2003 serving my entire music library which is 16-bit/44100 stereo FLAC.

So far at least, playback via the wired ethernet port has been flawless. We've been using it all day today playing holiday music . . . and the sound is every bit as good as the original red-book CD's that I ripped last year from my collection.

I did have to change the TVersity settings on my library to "never transcode." And it see's the BDP-93 as a PS3 . . . odd that. But it does work.
post #3286 of 25204
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Originally Posted by NetDef View Post

Are you specifically referring to multi-channel FLAC?

Yes.

An update:

I tried mixing the TrueHD source material down to good old-fashioned DD5.1 AC3 and it works perfectly. So I can confirm that over DNLA by way of PS3 Media Server (set for just streaming, no transcoding) on a hardwired LAN connection that this setup works flawlessly:

MKV
* VC-1 1080p Video
* AC3/Dolby Digital 5.1 Audio
* Chapters .txt file attachment (for chapter navigation via next/prev buttons on remote... not a menu, but definitely the next best thing).

(I would have tried dts encoding, but I don't have $499 laying around to register SurCode. That said, I have made 720x480 MPEG2+dts files in an MPG container and the Oppo unpacks the dts audio just fine over DNLA, so I don't see why MKV would be any different).

Merry Christmas
post #3287 of 25204
Thread Starter 
Dolby Digital TrueHD and FLAC are not supported at all in MKV containers. These are long running limitations which I have been pushing OPPO to resolve for some time.
post #3288 of 25204
Has any one noticed when you have a hard drive connected over eSATA or USB the player is not as responsive during navigation as opposed to when a hard drive is not connected.
post #3289 of 25204
Remote Failure Fixed !!

I took the batteries out, let it sit for an hour...unplugged Oppo player, for same time.

Reloaded batteries in remote ...plugged player back in...WORKS !!

Ghost in the machine.

David Perry
Santa Barbara
post #3290 of 25204
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bharath23 View Post

Has any one noticed when you have a hard drive connected over eSATA or USB the player is not as responsive during navigation as opposed to when a hard drive is not connected.

It will be as the player tries to cache all the contents on the drive.
post #3291 of 25204
I have a Canon HF11 HD recorder. If I am taking Christmas content and I want to watch it via my pc so what output do you all recommend I save it in for the best results?
Then if I burn via my Nero, what is the best format?
I have played one other avchd disk and some chapters worked others stuck.

I am going to build a new pc here soon and any pc guru's out there that have recommendations on the best drive structures for playing videos and viewing pictures via the oppo would be welcomed.

Thanks all and Merry Christmas!
post #3292 of 25204
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

I couldn't say...but I do find it interesting that the only 2 players I've had to display green flashes on my equipment are the LG BH200 and the BDP-93, both with Marvel chips. My BDP-93 is connected to Pioneer equipment (AVR and TV...I had the LG connected to a Pioneer TV and Onkyo receiver)...what about yours?

I have the green flashes, as well. At the moment, have my 93 hooked up to a Pioneer plasma direcfly through HDMI 1.
post #3293 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

It will be as the player tries to cache all the contents on the drive.

I notice this even after I have used the player for sometime with the hard drive connected. I play an entire movie and even after that player lags when a hard drive is connected.
post #3294 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Audiodork View Post

Hello,
I have not had any Remote Control issues since the FW Update. Rather, the Remote finally is somewhat usable whereas prior I had to be standing next to the 93 for the RC to work.

Now, the RC will marginally work from my Couch, but still my Onkyo Remote from my TX-NR3007 works far better as it had prior to the Update.

I am sorry that you are having issues with your RC. OPPO's Tech Support is as good as it gets and they will no doubt be able to help you by Monday.
Cheers,
AD

If "by Monday" you mean Christmas (might be a bit late now) at 2:09 PM then CS will get back to you. Missed the message Christmas PM as did not expect anyone to be on the other end. Wrong again-think they work 24 hours a day down there. Told them to take some time off!

Under "yes, Santa, it is raining" Seattle skies, Gill
post #3295 of 25204
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Originally Posted by bharath23 View Post

I notice this even after I have used the player for sometime with the hard drive connected. I play an entire movie and even after that player lags when a hard drive is connected.

Mine totally locks up after playing a BD and I navigate back to the home menu. I select movie, the "loading..." gear comes up, spins for a bit, stops and freezes. It is unresponsive to remote commands except for a power off, which takes a few seconds before it executes. The only thing I can figure is the drive (eSATA) doesn't spin up fast enough out of stand by and locks everything up.
post #3296 of 25204
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Originally Posted by bharath23 View Post

I notice this even after I have used the player for sometime with the hard drive connected. I play an entire movie and even after that player lags when a hard drive is connected.

Is this happening with USB and ESATA ? I have a WD Passport hooked to the rear USB and didn't notice any lag.
post #3297 of 25204
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Originally Posted by MitchPope View Post

Mine totally locks up after playing a BD and I navigate back to the home menu. I select movie, the "loading..." gear comes up, spins for a bit, stops and freezes. It is unresponsive to remote commands except for a power off, which takes a few seconds before it executes. The only thing I can figure is the drive (eSATA) doesn't spin up fast enough out of stand by and locks everything up.

The power off also takes a few seconds when I have my drive connected.

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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

Is this happening with USB and ESATA ? I have a WD Passport hooked to the rear USB and didn't notice any lag.

This happens with both eSATA and USB connected to the front USB port. I am not sure if capacity is causing an issue, my external drive is a 2TB drive.
post #3298 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Dolby Digital TrueHD and FLAC are not supported at all in MKV containers. These are long running limitations which I have been pushing OPPO to resolve for some time.

I gathered as much from your earlier posts on the matter (both in the -83 timeframe and in this new thread). Since you had strong version numbers (at least with FLAC) associated with the statement of no support, I wanted to see if newer firmware changed anything.

In a way, this endeavor reminds me of the interview scene in Awakenings that takes place between Robin Williams' character (Sayer) and the hospital Director:

Sayer: It was an immense project. I was trying to extract a decigram of myelin from four tons of earthworms.
Director: (pause) Really.
Sayer: I was on it for five years. I was the only one who really believed in it. The rest of them said it couldn't be done.
Director: It can’t.
Sayer: I know that now… I proved it.
post #3299 of 25204
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post


Is this happening with USB and ESATA ? I have a WD Passport hooked to the rear USB and didn't notice any lag.

I'm also experiencing the lag mentioned by bharath. I've a 2TB hard drive connected to the rear usb port. The lag, at least in my case, happens in a few fixed places -
~When pressing the home button.
~ when selecting "Movie" or "Network"from the home menu.
~ when selecting any file to play either from the network or the usb drive.

This happens most of the time, though a few times the response has been quick. I don't see any lag when scrolling through the files or opening a directory. I've just sent an email to Oppo, hopefully will hear back by Monday.
post #3300 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Checkerboard is not supported. That 3D format has been superseded. I'm sorry, but such is life if you are an early adopter. Sometimes the other horse wins.
--Bob

Bob, I'm also in the same situation with an older Samsung 3D 67" LED projection TV that only supports checkerboard format, right now, I don't know whether I should go for the the Oppo or the Panasonic that supports checkerboard format.

What is your conclusion if you have come out with one, thanks.
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