Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 142

I think you said it perfectly when you stated that SNL did not look good on either the PS3 or your Roku. I did not see the interlacing error you discussed in your post on Saturday with the Oppo - sorry - via HDMI 1. If it was there then the Roku was having the exact same issue so my only point is that it didn't appear to be an issue with the chip.

We are all have our opinions about streaming, I just don't care for SD but find the HD offerings (which continue to increase daily and include shows like The Office, Rescue Me, etc) enjoyable and the content available via HD has increased a lot in the past year. As I mentioned, streaming was one of the two major reasons I bought the 93, given I already have a 83. The 93 as is has done a great job improving the quality of HD streaming for me.

I don't believe the Qdeo by itself will be the magic bullet for quality SD streaming from Netflix (or anyone), there are just too many other variables that come into play regarding the quality of any streaming service. The biggest issue for Netflix is capacity in my opinon, there are times during the day where you won't get a quality picture regardless of the speed of your connection or the device being used.

I share your desire to see it improve, it would be great to admit I was wrong and I could actually enjoy SD material from Netflix or Amazon on Demand (coming soon hopefully) because the Qdeo does its job so well. I think Oppo knows what they need to do to improve the performance of the chip for streaming and DVD upconversion already, but that process will probably take at least a year before it is perfected - tweaking the ABT chip on the 83 was about an 18 month process if I remember correctly. Blu-rays have spoiled me in regards to video/audio quality, judging other content against that standard may be unfair, but it is the quality I seek. I guess that is why so many are anxious to see Vudu added

Discouraging someone to by a 93 for streaming playback based on SD content when in most cases it doesn't look great on any device doesn't seem to be good advice in my book - please correct me if I'm wrong. For the streaming content that I've used it for it has performed well and it will only get better as Oppo has more time to improve the Qdeo.

Thanks, I got it to work some how. It is connected to HDMI2.

I definitely agree, SD streaming content is currently the lowest SD source on the food-chain. My point was just that I feel validity in following up with Oppo on all these anomalies seen between the Qdeo side and the PS3 (or HDMI2 output). Odd that you didn't see the difference that both Oppo and I saw, I'm sure that would go a ways in helping you understand my want to help them fix this.

Also, to be clear to anyone reading, I never intended to discourage someone from buying the 93 as a "Blu-ray player, network streamer, Netflix player" (all together). But, if a BIG focus of your viewing is going to be Netflix content (which that original poster's focus was stated as being, including SD), then, all aspects of Netflix considered (SD/HD ability plus interface and even 5.1 audio), there a certainly cheaper alternatives (including the PS3, as it's 200 dollars cheaper). For me, I'll stick with the 93 (on HDMI2 for now) and wait until Oppo updates/fixes everything else, since the fact that it's completely inaudible when playing discs and streaming (plus support of all MKV features when streaming) is honestly reason enough to keep it in my opinion. But for someone looking for the best Netflix experience (again, CURRENTLY), if they aren't content to wait it out, that lies elsewhere. To tell the original poster anything else I would consider disingenuous.

The only supported album art are with PIC tags embedded in mp3 files. These show when the file is playing, but not in the browser.

-Bill

I agree, relegating the PS3 in my home theater room to a gaming machine is my goal. It's not there yet, but close.

For discs, it's solely the 93. For streaming, the 93 needs to add VUDU and the PS3's Netflix GUI and 5.1 audio content so I can turn the PS3 completely over to gaming.

I'd like Oppo to solve the problem of files disappearing with large media libraries, but I have my HTPC for streaming local content. Still, I'm intrigued by the thought of using the 93 as a truly universal player for all audio and video content.

I don't see tmeader pointing out current problems with Netflix streaming SD content as discouraging someone to buy a 93. I, for one, am glad tmeader is spending the time to troubleshoot Netflix streaming to help Oppo ensure it's the best implementation possible in the 93. This would be true whether I personally will use it for this purpose a lot or sparingly.

My player arrived yesterday so I'm spending part of the day getting it programmed into my remotes.

Before I run to the store for a mono-mono cable, has anyone gotten the back IR port to work with a URC base station? I recall reading a couple of complaints way back in this thread but can't figure out if anyone got it working. Thanks.

Thanks. I am certainly only trying to improve the player through this testing... nothing more. In my opinion, since Netflix is now a core feature of this player, it should be treated no differently than Blu-ray or DVD playback, in regards to problem reports to Oppo (when the problem is something that seems to be related to the player itself, such as these quality differences between HDMI1 and 2). The 93 is just a product, one with issues, like any other, that hopefully all supporters of the product can work with Oppo to get fixed in due time.

If Oppo had intended not to take any complaints on issues found with Netflix streaming seriously, I'm sure they would've listed it as an "experimental" feature just like the local streaming support (not to say they aren't taking complaints with that to heart as well, just that they certainly have more leeway). Thus far they've been extremely responsive. I highly doubt I'd have gotten an email back at 1AM EST from Panasonic/Samsung/Sony/LG on a similar complaint.

I like the QDEO output more than the ABT. Its not as sharp, but its equally if not more detailed and smooth. The NR implementation SUCKS. Smearing abound. Hopefully they will tweak the NR as well.

Without the enhancements, its a really smooth, detailed, and natural picture! Bringing the sharpness up to level 1 enhances it as well. I like the look of sharpness at 1 as well. It just brings out slightly more detail.

Can I play content I record on my DirecTV DVR that is saved to an external 1TB WD eSATA storage drive on an Oppo 93?

No. It is protected.

S~

I thought as much. So, is there an advantage in speed with using an eSATA drive versus a USB 2.0 external drive? I am contemplating buying a 1 TB external drive that could be used by the Oppo 93 for viewing home movies, music, and pictures.

What is this?
MSB is offering a new universal transport based on Oppo's BDP-93.

No advantage in speed except when you plug the drive into your PC. File playback occurs at the same speed regardless of the drive's speed.

Thanks. The one thing I have discovered while investigating the Oppo 93's features is that if I buy one, I will have a world of options for music and movie playback at my disposal that I never thought of in the past. I am now trying to decide how best to preserve music collections, movie collections, digital photo collections; etc. The elegance of the Oppo's design and all its potential is going to make the time it takes to save the funds for its purchase both painful and exciting.

Be aware that at the moment, there is an undefined file/folder limit that causes the BDP-93 to not recognize or display some files/folders. OPPO support states that they are aware of the problem, and have replicated it. No timeline on when it will be fixed.

This is one of the main reasons why I am waiting to purchase the Oppo 93 at a later date.

So I have been playing with getting this movie to work with streaming. First I took out the flac track, and converted it to a standard dts 5.1 track, remux'd it back in, and it played great for about 2 minutes or so, and then the player quit playing it all of a sudden and said the audio format was not supported

So, back at it, now I'm gonna take it and convert it to an ac3 track and remux it back together and try THAT out

So last night my wife and I decided to watch Heroes on Blu-ray. We couldn't even get it to play properly without locking up.

We put in Season 1, Disc 4 (which is where we left off). The disc is in perfect shape, no scratches. This is the first attempt to play a Heroes series disc on the BDP-93.

Menu loads, we choose 'Chapters' and then scroll to the second episode ("Run!"). Start watching, seems OK, but we realize it's an episode we've seen, so we bring up the menu and pick the third episode ("Unexpected"). Screen goes black and time display fails to advance.

At this point, i can try pressing buttons, but they all result in the red "you can't do that here" icon. Eventually i can hear the drive spin down. Feels like what happend was it was going to load the FBI warning screen (and hence was in that 'you can't do anything to skip this' mode), but failed to actually find it. Stayed in this dead-end state for about a minute while i fiddled with it. I wasn't able to change the Title or the chapter or ff/skip at all in this state (though the Info bar would appear when I pressed "i" on the remote... it just didn't allow me to make any time changes).

I figured, hey, maybe it was just a load problem, hit Stop twice and then hit play to reset the disc. Menu comes up, i pick the third episode and have the exact same problem. So i tried the second episode again (after a full power-off, reboot of the player) and it works. Tried the third episode, doesn't work. Tried the second episode again, and this time the second episode wouldn't play.

Trying to 'resume' playback of the disc when it is in this broken state (hit Stop once, wait a long time and then the Oppo screen appears, then hit Play) just results in it getting dead-ended again.

Eventually i gave up in frustration and just put the disc in the PS3, where it started playback of the third episode just fine... Between this and Salt I seem to be on a bad run of discs or my player has some hardware problem that's manifesting as strange read or code execution errors. :|

I've written Oppo to see if they can repro. No replies yet. Anyone here have the Heroes series on BD and care to see if they can repro this?

Yes, the firmware update was the first thing I did out of the box.

If automatically connecting is the normal behavior with the manual setting, I'll see if I can replicate the issue tonight before I change anything. I'll check the signal on my home network as well to make sure the problem doesn't lie there.

This has happened to me before on more than one occassion all with universal blu rays. And it goes all the way back to when I had the 83 as well.

Yes, you should only have to set it up once, then it should re-connect as needed.

Check Setup > Network Setup > Connection Information for the strength of the wifi signal. If the signal is weak or you have a lot of interference from neighbors' wifi, the player may not find your network right away. Try setting your wifi base station to a different channel.
--Bob

I have an unusual problem. I have the BDP93 hooked up to an Oppo HDMI switch and then to my Onkyo 605 receiver, using the HDMI1 port on the 93. I just set everything up and popped a SACD in, and it started playing but then in a few seconds the sound stopped (Oppo's display was still counting time). I switched it to HDMI2 and everything worked fine.

Then I tried it back on HDMI1 with the TV on and sound didn't cut out anymore. Surely it's not intended that I have to have the TV on to listen to CDs using HDMI1 port. I looked at the settings but couldn't find anything that jumped out at me, however I am new to Oppo players so maybe I am missing something obvious.

The puzzling thing is that sound does play for a few seconds. Is there some reason why the Oppo would cut out the HDMI connection after not detecting a display?

success! Works now that I converted it to an ac3 dolby digital 5.1

Give Oppo a call with the details. Sounds like your AVR is not properly reporting its copy protection status when the TV is connected but not powered on. Oppo has a firmware workaround for that which they are testing with a few other posters here.
--Bob

This topic in the BDP-83 FAQ may apply: Why do I get no CD Audio when the TV is turned off?

-Bill

In the Audio Circles: Oppo! thread, Rustafarian asked:
I am not registered there nor can I register since registration is disabled. So, if Russ reads this thread, the answer is yes to the following extent at least. I downloaded several of the 24/96K stereo files. I spent a couple of hours making foobar2000 see them and not transcode them. Finally, once foobar2000 was unscrewed, they played fine via the Oppo 93 DLNA client. I also played them on the Oppo from a flash drive I plugged into the front. I played through a Peachtree Nova in both digital and analog. I did not bother with 192K files since the Nova can't convert them, but I have played 192K files from disks on the Oppo just fine via the analog outputs and downsampled to 96K. I hope Russ sees this and that it helps. ...bob

What does the 93 send as it's User-agent name to dlna/upnp servers like foobar2000? I tried to figure out from a foobar log but couldn't. It appears not to identify itself as Oppo. I am trying to set up a non-default profile for it.

Welcome to my world.

I am so close to sending this back to Oppo. I want it work so badly. My unit has locked up on me doing various activities. I have a 50/50 shot at locking up doing ANYTHING in network. I must have powered down/up at least 40 times now (for lock ups) since the Christmas release.

My unit has locked up going back and forth in the home menu.

Play something network or SD. Put it on NR 4. OMG. I can't believe how bad it is. It's like a camera blurry and OOF and when there's movement. When action or the scene slows it quickly comes to focus. In and out, in and out. It's obvious you CANNOT use NR above 2. Smearing? Yes. Ghosting? Yes.

Go ahead and flame me. I paid my 500 bucks. This unit is NOT ready.

I hope Oppo puts out a firmware update soon or their reputation will suffer...(i.e. Tivo premiere).

My network settings are correct, my player settings are correct. It's the unit.

At this point, I cannot recommend this unit to anybody. Too many bugs. Not for this price. The ONLY advantages are the SACD ability and it's quieter than the PS3.

I'm embarrassed when it locks up over and over when watching with the wife.

yeesh. I know I can send it back in 30 days. Right now I don't want too. I don't write the forum over and over badmouthing it. But, right now, frustrated as all get out I feel I must balance out all of this undeserved over the top praise for this unit.

A lot of work still to be done.

Have you contacted OPPO support to see if they can help you?

-Bill