Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 17

Looks like this file has subtitles encoded as "UTF-8" according to this cool tool (thanks for pointing it out).

Works very well with the Oppo. One of the DLNA annoyances with the 83 were the largely unreadable subtitles on media files (though that seemed to get better with successive firmware updates).

The 93 is greatly improved in this regard, in my use so far, right out of the gate.

Folks interesting in playing around with 3D might want to download some files from here: http://www.3dtvworld.com.au/3d-downloads. The Oppo will play many of them from USB or even network. (You may have to force side-by-side 3D display on your monitor.)

Bill -

Thanks for your response.

The primary output setting does match the physical connection.

The video routes thru the receiver. I'll run it directly to the display & see what happens.

The display reports input resolution is 720p. I've played with output resolutions on the player & no change.

I'm watching Avatar & no issues. Could it be Blu-ray disc dependent?

I suspect that with more up to date components this problem will go away. I haven't seen any similar problem posted in this thread.

Ron

Is this with component or HDMI?

The Image Constraint Token has started appearing on BR discs which will mess up your life if you are using component video. Output from the player will be limited to 480i and many displays go into a different mode for aspect ratio control with 480i.

But in that case I would expect your display to report 480i as the input signal, unless your receiver is doing upconversion to 720p.

-Bill

Also good to note that many AVRs will mess with analog video inputs, especially if you are converting that to HDMI output.

I have had the player for a week. I did have some problems which I did discuss with oppo. overall I am happy with the player. certainly more ready then the so called released ones like panansonic, sony etc. I am not trying to be pro oppo. its more like the truth.
I suppose I could share the info if people have any questions.
Jacob

hi folks,

should be receiving my 93 tomorrow, upgrading from the 83.

I am also upgrading my pre/pro from an Integra 9.8 to the new Integra DHC 80.2.

for all you folks that know the ins and outs of video processors. My new pre/pro has the HQV Reon-VX chip.

I fully understand that video processing output quality is in the eye of the beholder, BUT just on paper, based on specifications, would you think I would get better quality passing through the 93's video untouched in my pre/pro, or run it through the Reon-VX processor in the pre/pro?

thanks very much for any input

Jeff

Two things you can do:

1) Work with Oppo to make the player better

2) RETURN IT

Bob, I know you're a beta tester and I respect that you are under an NDA. May I ask though, why? I thought that HDMI 1 & 2 were interchangable and both could serve the same purpose.


Jeff, I, too, am using the BDP-83 in combination with the Integra DTC-9.8. I know this is an Oppo thread, so I will attempt to stay as on topic as possible, but why the change to the DHC 80.2? I am upgrading from the 83 to the 93 (mine arrives tomorrow as well). If you are planning to pass the video untouched from the 93, wouldn't the DTC-9.8 have worked fine for you? I think it's likely that the 9.8 would NOT pass 3D to the TV (because it's HDMI version), but that's why there are two HDMI ports on the 93. So, why the upgrade? Curious mind wants to know.

Hi,
I just hooked up the 93. I am running it from the HDMI 1 connection to my Pioneer VSX-92. I have tried playing two Blu-rays and both have played for a few minutes and then my Pioneer Receiver shuts off. I have had a Pioneer BDP -51FD and a Panasonic BD30 and never had an issue. I read here there is a possible workaround to this problem with the Pioneer recievers until hopefully some future firmware addresses this?

Hi Chet, look for a PM from me

Sorry, I sent above question before I was done. I am running them through a 60" Pioneer Kuro display, and set the video for 1080P and the Audio for bitstream. any other suggestions? Should I try any of the Auto settings instead? Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Contact Oppo about your problem. I had the same issue with my VSX-32 and after trying several setup changes Oppo is replacing the unit.

HDMI 1 is the only output that can use the Marvell QDEO VP chip - HDMI 2 only uses the SOC for video processing. So basically HDMI 1 is equivalent to the video processing on the BDP-83 while HDMI 2 is equivalent to the video processing on the BDP-80.

This means that once the handshaking and any other issues are resolved for those having problems with HDMI 1, these people will most likely want to switch back to using HDMI 1 to get the best video quality.

Is it actually shutting off or does it look like it does but comes back after a few seconds? Mine does exact same thing but comes back and I lose sound on the oppo. I have contacted oppo The suggestion was to use hdmi2.

It shuts off and doesn't come back on. I just tried using HDMI 2 but had the same results. Oppo is out for the Holidays until Monday and if PHX HD is correct I might be in for a long haul and a replacement...drag.

Odd. I thought mine was a audio auto thing so I switched to bitstream but while watching a few movies yesterday I experienced the same situation on both hdmi1 and 2. I have informed oppo. They are obtaining a pio avr to test.

I switched to bitstream as well after reading some other results posted here, and it doesn't seem to help. Let's hope they come up with something fast....

I've read of a few people, specifically with 83's, that have had problems with the sound of music blu ray. Just wanted to report it worked flawlessly tonight on my 93 on the beta firmware.

From what I've read all the alien movies also work perfectly on this 93 beta firmware as well.

So what does the component outputs use?

I have older tv, which just has 1 set of HD component inputs. I can send an hdmi to my Denon 4806 and then send to the tv, letting the AVR convert the hdmi to component. Suggestions?

Just got mine delivered so trying to plan out my hookups before I tackle it.

Component output in the 93 also bypasses the QDEO video processing. (Just like Component output in the 83 bypasses the ABT video processing.)

Be aware that you will likely *NOT* be able to get your AVR to convert HDMI video input to component video output due to the copy protection the industry imposes on HDMI.

You should also be aware that the industry already has a scheme in place to eliminate HD component output from players for Blu-Ray just as it has already done for SD-DVD. The upshot is that sometime soon you should probably be thinking about replacing your TV with an HDMI display.

And yes, this is a scheme by the industry to extract more money out of you. Deep sigh....
--Bob

I'm sure Bob or someone else will correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that component uses the SOC. The Marvell QDEO is only used by HDMI 1.


Honestly, I'd compare the 2 options (component direct to the TV / HDMI 1 to the AVR and converted to component) and go with whichever gives the best result. The conversion from HDMI to component in your AVR may or may not work out well.

[I see Bob already beat me to it - take note of his comments about converting HDMI to component.]

For HDMI Audio yes. For HDMI video no -- HDMI 1 offers more.

However HDMI Audio is embedded in HDMI video so the signal path for HDMI Audio is also different when you use HDMI 1.
--Bob

Neuromancer or Bill, I wil be getting my unit at the end of next week...do you think there is ANY chance that oppo will release another firmware update by then to correct the NTFS/AVCHD problem? about how often have they been putting new firmware releases out in this beta testing phase?

Yeah, a new tv was what I was trying to avoid.

Guess I will try a couple things.

Not Neuromancer or Bill, but I can tell you that the status of the Beta firmware (including what's already fixed, what's being worked on, schedules and the like) are things we Beta testers are not supposed to broadcast. Such info has to come from Oppo first.
--Bob

See the industry is gently trying to change your mind in that regard. With rawhide whips if necessary....
--Bob

I'm still waiting for my 93 to arrive but if I understand correctly if I have a Pioneer receiver then I will not be able to use HDMI 1(which uses the QDEO chip) for video output. So if that is the case I'm probably better off keeping my 83 active in the system as that will at least let me use the ABT chip for my DVD playback. Am I on the right track here?

First time OPPO owner; just got my BDP-93 a few days ago.

Two questions having to do with WIFI setup:

(1) How does one enter alphanumeric data using the remote control? My SSID has letters and other chars in it, it's not just digits. I see no way to enter letters using any magic tricks with the remote. And of course, password would have the same problem. The OPPO manual is very, very lacking in this area. Really needs a revision.

(2) The WPS stuff -- how does that translate to a Mac user w/ an Airport setup? Or doesn't it?

Would appreciate any help from other owners.

Finally, I love the image quality though it's a lot darker than I expected. My old DVD player was a high-end Denon and the picture was generally brighter. Now everything looks, well, darker. (FYI I am using Component outs, out of necessity -- I don't have a long enough HDMI cable to get to my projector, and I have this crazy expensive Blue Jeans Cable component snake thingie plugged directly from OPPO to projector at the moment.)

Mine does as you describe. It looks like an off/on cycle. It happened after about 20 minutes and then again every 10 minutes or so.

Both HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 give the same result. Swapped out all HDMI cables and tried changing to bitstream. No change. New unit should ship Monday.

Oppo has been very responsive, with emails on Thanksgiving. I've been involved in beta and pre-release testing before and have no problem with the process. I wouldn't expect them to be able to test every combination of equipment out there and I have no doubt they will get this corrected shortly.