Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 18

The Pioneer related issue is of course likely just a bug that will get fixed. It could very well be that the problem exists only with a small set of Pioneer models. So you should certainly try it yourself.

But yes, if you can't get HDMI 1 to work for you at present I think you'd be better off continuing to use your 83 for SD-DVD playback at the moment.
--Bob

If you've not already done so, try turning off HDMI CEC in the 93. CEC is an HDMI feature that allows one device to control another -- as for example power on/off.
--Bob

thanks bob, but i wasnt asking for exact release dates or definite answers...i asked if there was a CHANCE there MIGHT be one by the end of next week. cant get more vague than that. im just trying to get a time frame and expecially since this function worked on the previous firmweare (ntfs/avchd), i am confident that it will be working again in the next firmware.

In the same boat here. Unfortunately, without Hdmi1, it sounds like Pioneer users cant even get out of the gate and fully experience the 93.
I have no doubt that this is near the top of the Oppo teams 'to do list'.
I hope the issue is resolved on short notice, as I will likely keep my 83 in service (and leave the 93 boxed) until then.
That will get pretty frustrating in a hurry.

The dark output on Component is most likely due to your projector being set to expect the wrong flavor of Component video input. This is something you need to set manually in your projector. Look for a Component video related setting in the projector with two choices. The setting likely will be named something like Black Levels or IRE. Try the alternate choice.

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When you go into the "Manual" selection for Wifi setup and select one of those networking fields, a keyboard should show on screen that you can use to enter the info using the arrow keys and the Enter key to select characters. There's a shift button on that on-screen keyboard to switch between types of character input.

For security with your Apple Airport network, I find the "WPA2 Personal" setting in the Airport devices works well with the "WPA2-PSK(AES)" choice in the 93 for Security Mode. Keep in mind that the these text entries are upper/lower case sensitive.
--Bob

whats the problem with temporarily running the HDMI 1 directly to the tv and the HDMI 2 to the pio receiver?

There's a CHANCE that I MIGHT be SHOT if I answer that...

Seriously, although I've got info on the Beta firmware, I really don't know when that might translate into a public update. It's not that Oppo want to withhold fixes, but a public release has to be at an adequate quality level across the board, and some other item might end up being stubborn.
--Bob

^^^What he said!
--Bob

When I had my player set to turn on after the and the receiver. I would lose sound on hdmi 2. I would be able to get sound back when I turn off the player and receiver. So the I set my player to turn on between the tv and the receiver. That did the trick.

Jacob

Thanks Bob, just checked and its already off. I don't know if I changed it or if that's the default setting.

I experimented with CEC with my Pioneer and Samsung Plasma and it was more trouble than it was worth. For me it seems like unless you have equipment from the same manufacturer that feature isn't quite ready for prime time. Or, maybe its just smarter than I am. The later is highly possible.

Yes the manual is lacking in that area, but will eventually detail all that. Yes the 1108 interface handles colors and 0-9 via remote but not alphanumeric, unfortunately you have to use the remote to key these in one by one.

Right now you are accessing files over WiFi via DLNA/UPnP server on a mac or PC.

There are adjustments for brightness in the Picture Adjustments.

I get that point.
My personal issue is the player is situated 6+ feet from either component (receiver and monitor). Thus yet another cable from monoprice, to go in the closet when the issue is resolved.
However, I humbly withdraw my implication that all Pioneer users likely will have issues. Obviously I have a unique situation.

I also have a Pioneer vsx-94 and obviously expecting some trouble with HDMI-1. I am yet to see a Pioneer receiver user without any problem with the 93, maybe you shouldn't withdraw anything. At this point, it looks like any Pioneer receiver will have handshaking glitches.

I have no problem and actually I am prepared to do that when my 93 arrives on Tuesday. What I am concerned now is the fact that some people reported the same problem with both HDMI1 and 2 (shut off).

Well, having dealt with Oppo in the past I am confident of my previous statement.....
"I have no doubt that this is near the top of the Oppo teams 'to do list'."

Thus my reluctance (check that......refusal) to buy another 10' cable

Have any owners of Pioneer SC-05 or SC-07 AVRs incurred in the HDMI 1 handshake problem?

I haven't seen any posts from 05/07 owners.

I only ask because if so, I will only have time on Sunday to rewire my set-up and be ready to plug the 93's HDMI 1 directly into my Pio 500M and the HDMI 2 to my SC-05. My 93 is scheduled for delivery on Monday.

Gman

edit, post #404 clearly states Gates has lipsync issues with the 93 and Pio SC-05 when using HDMI 1 going to the receiver and the output is set to 1080p24

Yeah, both smurraybhm and Gates reporting that SACD-DSD problem.... I am just worried about lipsync and handshake dropping issues (have bno SACDs to play)

Anyone else ?

This fellow member reported the SACD-DSD bug with the HDMI-1 but everything else seems to be fine. I hope that's the only problem I find with my VSX-94.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post19548335

The lip sync error is a known bug in the 1108 firmware. It is not specific to the Pioneer AVRs.
--Bob

Does it happen with HDMI2 as well ?

Really? I've been there since day one also. I see one post related to the SACD pops and clicks being resolved with the new BDP-93. Maybe I missed the "Several" other discussions on the subject. Or, perhaps to you, one mention of the issue means it's been discussed several times.

Not trying to start a fight but you did politely reprimand me for not reading previous discussions. I've read them. Perhaps you have not.

I will shut up now as I'm sure once the player is in more owner's hands there will be more discussion on this topic.

Fellow member still not having a single issue with the 93 connected to an Pioneer SC-07 using HDMI for both audio and video. It might help if we (pioneer) owners share more detail about settings including the order you turn your equipment on. I played thee movies today (scott pilgram, aliens and predators with no issues - 24p is enable and no lipsych problems either. Plus numerous SACDs and other fun stuff. There has to be a solution so let's figure it out. I find it hard to believe I am the only one withna Pioneer not having issues.

No not necessarily. I guess it depends which Pioneer. I have an SC-05 and it works fine except for lip sync issues when "1080p24 output" is set to ON and 1080 is the selected resolution. I was talking with Oppo and they had me test a few things. When "source direct" is selected with "1080p24 output" on, it works fine. Or when I have "1080p24 output" off it's also fine. They said they'd put in a bug report. The other problem is not being able to play SACD in DSD mode through HDMI 1 but I don't know if that's limited to Pioneer receivers. They told me to use HDMI2 for the time being.

Lip sync error also exists on HDMI 2 in the 1108 firmware, but the amount is significantly less than on HDMI 1 -- small enough that many folks won't notice it. Again, this is not specific to any particular AVR.

Oppo is aware of both. Fixing both is definitely on the list.
--Bob

I just started reading this thread since I have a 93 on its way Tuesday. It seems that some Pio avr users are having some issues with one of the hdmi outputs. I was planning on using my vsx-1018 and wondered if anyone is using that avr and experiencing the problems other people spoke of. I was also planning on purchasing a vsx-1120 but may not if the problems are not resolved.

I've never used one and have no idea if they're compatible with the 93, but you could give the HD Fury a shot - they're a lot less expensive than buying a new TV.

+1. I too haven't tried one but have been led to understand they solve this problem.

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Not sure if these combinations have been documented. In general I am finding the file support to be good, but here are a few problems (using the analog output on the player).

48k 16 bit 2 channel FLAC in a MKV file (where the video is AVC and works fine) is not working for me (DLNA playback). If I understand the specs right, this SHOULD work.

640kbps 48 Khz 24 bit 6 channel WMA Pro as part of a WMV file (where the video is VC-1 and plays fine) is not working for me (DLNA playback). I don't think this is supposed to be supported.

I'm of course aware that any user-created content is iffy, and especially with the WMV file I was surprised I even saw video, except that the code is VC-1 which is a standard. Just sharing these in the interest of collecting data points.

Thanks. Didn't put that together...

Question: I assume WMA Pro like in the second example I cite as not working is not intended to work? I see WMA listed as a functioning audio code, but as I recall WMA Pro is really a totally different beast.

Your receiver cannot process a DSD signal anyway. It converts it to PCM. Even if it did, I'm quite sure you are using MCACC and it would be converting DSD into PCM to process the signal. So, for the time being, set SACD processing to LPCM. You may even leave it there....no big deal.