Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 177

I have my 93 and a WD Mybook Live NAS (built in Twonky) on the same gigabit switch and they work very well together. I'm streaming mkv, m2ts,mov and other formats without a glitch.

Placebo's a sneaky bitch.

I am not able to activate Netflix on my Oppo BDP-93. I could not find anything in the manual. The Netflix website says 1.Connect your device to the internet 2.Find and start Netflix on your device 3.Netflix will provide the activation code on your device

I have done #1. But am not able to figure out how to do #2.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

Unfortunately, I did all of this and didn't notice any difference.

LOL!

^^rotfl

Well, I received my new unit from Oppo and it appears that the HDMI1 issues of video and audio dropouts when watching netflix or other 480 sources in 1080p mode are gone...so i guess it was my old unit, although i am not sure how the internal electronics would be bad, since its basically just a chip, but anyway i am sending back the old unit and hopefully will have better luck with the new one. I guess there is no better customer service than oppo's in the business.

Oh yes she is! Here she is, unabashed, after I caught her trying to convince me my CC sounded better biwired.

Searching the BDP-93 thread for "activate" gives this: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post19844135

If that doesn't help, I suggest you post your question in that thread.

-Bill

Hi there,

From one week, I've been testing the PQ of the bdp93, and I'm quite disapointed about the cadence fluidity in 24p.

Don't get me wrong, the results are quite good, but my Pionner 51fd is far better.
The motion seems more natural, more realistic.

For my tests I use two identical discs in each player, in "source direct" mode connected to a Jvc RS-20, without any idea of the source.
And each time, I found the pioneer better.

So I'm not here to start a war, but for a question :
I know that Oppo engineers are working on firmware to improve tha capabilities, and resolve the issue.
But is it possible to hope an improvement in the quality of the picture, especially in cadence motion ?

Thanks for you help

Hi all...I'm a very infrequent poster but a frequenter lurker. We are updating our main living room system and as part of this upgrade are getting a Sony EX500 55" LDC TV mated with the Yamaha RX-V667 A/V receiver.

I'm wondering if you guys can tell me whether the Oppo-BD93 with its best in class PQ will actually be "overkill" for this very moderate level TV we're getting?

Money is not so much the object on the Oppo vs. others, but I don't want to pay the extra $ if I won't see the benefit. Though, the SACD and DVD-A capabilities, combined with Wifi, would eliminate having to make another purchase.

Thanks, and sorry if I posted in the wrong forum.

Mark

We do expect DVD deinterlacing and scaling improvement in future firmware.

However: you say you are using Source Direct. None of that applies in that case, does it? With Source Direct the player is a digital transport and video processing takes place farther down the stream.

If you are seeing a problem with the decoder, that needs to be documented with a test pattern.

-Bill

There's something else going on here that you haven't mentioned. If you are using Source Direct in the 93, the video off the disc is going out unprocessed as far as de-interlacing (cadence detection) or /24 vs. /60 (cadence judder). I.e., there's nothing to get wrong.

Are you using HDMI 1 or HDMI 2 for output from the Oppo? Is there any AVR or video processor between the Oppo and the JVC?

What discs are you using and what sort of problem are you seeing? Try to describe the specific problem.

What does the JVC say it is receiving as the input video format, resolution, frame-rate, and bit depth?

Are you using the same video data format from the Pioneer? E.g., YCbCr 4:2:2, etc.?

Are you playing PAL discs into a PAL monitor? NTSC discs into an NTSC monitor? Or are you converting between PAL/NTSC?

I'm not suggesting you aren't seeing a difference. I'm suggesting there's a setup issue you have not yet spotted that explains it.
--Bob

We have to ask "compared to what?" and how much of your viewing is Blu-ray vs DVD or other video sources.

BR performance is more even between players than DVD.

-Bill

Cool! Also be aware that Oppo will check out your returned unit to try to isolate what failed.
--Bob

Thanks for your answer.

I've should been more specific

I'm talking about Bluray 1080p24 (23.976 or 24) only.
I tried on source direct and 1080p, and the result were the same.

Good, but not as good as the pioneer.

For exemple, on a scrolling text, the text is sharper and cleaner on the 51fd than the oppo.
It's not a huge difference, but in blind test, I always choose the pioneer.
And for my eyes, the difference is important enough to return the oppo.

Which firmware do you have installed in your Oppo? The Main firmware version should either be 1216 or 0106.

Again, there is likely something wrong in the Oppo settings or in the JVC settings for that input. What does the JVC say it is receiving from the Oppo and from the Pioneer -- all the details, not just the resolution? Are you using the same settings in the JVC for both?

In the Oppo, if using HDMI 1 (for example) your Setup > Video Setup > Priority should be HDMI 1. 1080p/24 should be Auto. TV System should match your JVC (NTSC / PAL / or Multi as appropriate).
--Bob

Ok bob, let's do it


I've tried both, directly to the projector. With two same HDMI cables.


I tried a lot of disc : Toy story 3, Leap Year, and many others.
For the issue (it's a big world) see my answer juste up there.


1080p, 24p, 8 or 12bits.


Yes I am.


No, only Bluray.


I understand your point, and thought the same thing.
But after a lot of time on it, I didnt find any setup reason.

Press the Home button on the Oppo remote. A set of icons will appear, one of which is Netflix. Select Netflix. It will start, and ask if you are already a member. Say yes. It will give you an "activation code".

Now, using your computer, log in to your Netflix account on their web site. Go to Your Account > Activate New Device and enter the "activation code". A short time later your Oppo will activate and your Netflix Instant Queue will appear.
--Bob

I suggest you give Oppo tech support a call with the details. Perhaps they can spot something simple here. There are a lot of folks using the JVC projectors with the 93, and I'm not aware of any other reports of problems with /24 Blu-ray video.

Again, there's nothing for the player to get wrong here as far as cadence. It has to be a setup problem. 1080p/24 comes off the disc and goes out the HDMI, and then your JVC does whatever it does with it.
--Bob

Yes, I have the good one.


Yes, exactly the same settings.


Exactly what I did.

--Bob

Hey Bob,

I'm not saying there is a problem with the cadence.
In fact, I found it very good and very smiliar to my other players.

Then, I compared the PQ with the Pioneer, and found the pioneer better in this area.
That surprised me, enough to make a lot of other tests and comparisons.
All of them confimed this fact.

I'm quite embarassed, because I really like the BDB-93.
But I can't accept the idea of getting a PQ less good than my older player.

Then perhaps I misunderstood you. I thought you said your picture quality problem had to do with the cadence judder (lack of smoothness) in moving text during 1080p/24 Blu-ray playback?

What's the actual problem, then?
--Bob

Not a cadence judder, juste a better cadence reproduction on the pionner.

For exemple :

on a horrizontal scrolling text, this it how the text looks like on the oppo :


And on the pionner :


On a movie, at the begin of Avatar, there is flight over the forest.
On the pionner, its perfeclty smooth. Beautiful.
On the oppo, it's just good.

Peculiar. I'm not seeing that.

I presume you have Noise Reduction OFF in the Oppo. Have you tried adjusting Sharpness in the Oppo?

I still think you should get in touch with Oppo tech support with these details. There are a very limited number of things that might cause this without screwing up a bunch of other stuff that everyone would be noticing.
--Bob

Sorry. Need to clarify. I'm comparing the Oppo 93 to the Sony S570, the Panny BD-85, and the Denon 1611UD. Purchasing the Sony or Panny would require a separate DVD-A & SACD player. Plus, the Sony's netflix streaming is very spotty from what I hear, which could require then purchasing Apple TV (We're apple people). So, a single unit solution would be optimal.

I don't own a single BR disc yet, but I have 100+ DVDs, so good upscaling is a must. I want to be able to stream Netflix and eventually play Pandora as well.

I'm moving up from a basic DVD player into a Harmon Kardon 520 A/V receiver going into a JVC 36" cathode ray tube TV (10 years old), so you can see any improvement will be good, but I tend to hold onto stuff for a long time so reliability is a must.

Thanks!

Yes, I will contact their support.

But just one thing :
The results I get with the Oppo are similar to all my other players.
PS3, Dune, bd65.

It's only with the pionner that the results are differents.

Do you have any form of "enhancement" processing active in your Pioneer?
--Bob

No, I don't.

The pionner is on "source direct".
Maybe there is some internal filters on the pionner that improve the smoothness.

Or symply, the oppo's decoder is not as performant.

I've got my BDP-93 hooked up via HDMI to a NAD T175 and I am using Source Direct as the Ouput Resolution. When listening to CD, SACD, DVD-A and switching to Pure Audio, this initiates a handshake which results in a 2-3 second audio dropout, very annoying. This handshake only occurs once for each new disc played, after which Pure Audio can be turned on and off with no additional handshake occurring, until a new disc is put in.
I see on my NAD's display, that when a disc is first started, the resolution is 1080p and when Pure Audio is turned on the resolution changes to 1080i, hence the handshake I presume.
Is this normal, do other members experience the same handshake/dropout when using Source Direct and turning on Pure Audio?