Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 180

That was the rumor I heard too...But I emailed them yesterday and this is what I got back...

"We are looking into supporting additional streaming services, but at this time we are only confirming the support of certified technologies, which is Netflix and Blockbuster On Demand. We will be supporting many more technologies throughout the lifespan of the player and will just require an easy firmware upgrade to take advantage of them."

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.

A couple of questions I need answered
1. Netflix.... Is all the program material in stereo and not dolby?
seems strange that some content is HD but still just two channel audio.
2. Video quality on my 93 playing dvd's do not look as good as my old 83 that i just sold. I might need some advice as to some settings that you guys here have experimented with that I could try.
I have turned off any video processing in my AVR and allowing only the OPPO to process.
I am trying to get the most of the upgrade from the 83 but right now i just don't see it.

Sorry, but IMO, Netflix "sucks"...They need Vudu or Amazon on Demand...(or both) like Panasonic.

Why would that upset you? The fact that they are looking into supporting additional streaming services, but at this time are only confirming the support of certified technologies with the existing public FW is all they can comment on.

OK, so the question I have is how much real world improvement will I see in my picture and hear in my audio if I switch from my Sony BDP S350 to the Oppo 93?

It seems that there will be a big improvement in audio if I shell out the $1K for the 95, but has anyone gone from the Sony to the Oppo 93?

OK, in the Player.net review they did notice a significant improvement over the Sony....anyone else? I am close to pulling the trigger.

It's upsetting me because I want it "NOW!"...In the meantime, I am watching Blu-ray on the Oppo and downstreaming awesome HD content through Vudu and Amazon on my Panasonic 350 unit...(Kinda sucks if you ask me)...COME ON OPPO! Get your act together!...

No argument, but having Netflix supported is a necessary evil.

Tom, could you chime in here, please?

Any other streaming services you are dying to have on the BDP-93?

Well, since you asked...yes. Youtube would be nice... and an awesome weather/news app couldn't hurt...

Rhapsody......

Pandora...

Yeah, Rhapsody and Pandora would be good, but I'd rather have a "free" internet radio service like SkyFM online or something similar...I am not going to pay for internet radio...right now I get free internet on my SC-37 Pioneer Elite, so I'm happy.

JohnAV....The Vudu folks are practically your neighbors...they are in the bay area very close...(give em a call)...

Right now I get Pandora on my Onkyo receiver, and get this... it's free, but it's a close equivalent to the upgraded version. I mean no commercials, no limit on skips; only thing is if you've had it on for hours with no button-presses it asks if you're still listening.

Don't know if this is because of hardware limitations, or if it has to do with the licensing agreement. But if Pandora comes to the Oppo, maybe it'll be implemented the same way...

I can tell you why this would upset me: if I were Oppo, and I were seriously attempting to add Vudu or Pandora or something else to my player, I would tell people that. But Oppo aren't like that. So instead, we'll get surprises, when a little bit more honest transparency would be my preference. It's OK in my opinion to say: yes, were working on this and that but no guarantees. It's cruel to remain silent however, when there is information they could share but refuse to.

Under promise, over deliver is better than over promise, under deliver. Promising something and then not delivering it doesn't tend to be a good business model, so OPPO is better off keeping quiet about what might be coming along. In some cases, OPPO might be under NDA and not have permission to discuss what's coming. People should base their purchasing decisions on what features are available today, not the features they'd like to see added.

Straw man. They need not promise anything, just state the facts.

The second part of your post I agree with.

The problem is that some number of people would just hear what they want and conclude that OPPO said they were adding (rather than looking into, no guarantees) feature X and get pissed when feature X doesn't materialize. Feature X could fall through at any time prior to being released because of any number of issues. They're definitely better off not falling into this trap.

Yeah, I can get Pandora on my receiver also, but, as you said, It will cut off after a while it it senses no activity...Try, "SkyFM" radio online...they have some great stations and they won't cut off with no activity...I love the channel line ups...at night I fall asleep to their "New Age" station...great music for romance too... Their station is set up for donations...but you don't have to. They also have a SkyFM premier which is like 5 bucks a month or something...(More stations/better sound feed).

My point was that "stating the facts" as you suggest will often get twisted into promising something. It happens all the time mostly because people hear only what they want to hear ("we're looking into XYZ" gets twisted into "XYZ will be in the next firmware release"). It really doesn't matter if the vendor (OPPO or otherwise) ~actually~ promised or not because the end result is that the customer is unhappy if they don't get the feature that was "promised" (by their interpretation of the facts). A customer making a purchasing decision on such "facts" may end up being very unhappy if the feature falls through or takes longer than expected for whatever reason - if they keep their mouth shut until said feature is a done deal, there's no problem (well, other than people being mad that they aren't disclosing their future plans).

My "under promise, over deliver..." comment is a pretty common expression that I was hoping would get the point across with far fewer words. It's not a straw man.

People just need to learn to be patient (myself included at times ).

I have a funny feeling that if we all send our units back under the no questions asked return policy, with a note saying, "We will come back when you have better streaming services"...Well, that might just get the job done... (Just sayin) Mines going back tomorrow...

You're getting HD lossless audio tracks in an MKV? Surprising, Oppo support has told me that one is just pulling the lossy 5.1, and the other hangs the player, and that this is as it is designed, not a bug...

eric

Hey Dogone: You bought the 93, then read the specs?? Why did you buy it? They clearly spec what streaming services they support.

I was looking for a Panny 350 to go with my VT25. None available. Good luck dude.

I have had my player since day 1 and I am not sending it back. I always find something more about the player to like. I seem to have alot less problems since the differnt firmware updates.

Jacob

Yes but those devices are limited to the 128KB feed.
The PC version support 192K with Pandora One.

It would be nice if Oppo could get support 192K streaming.

- Rich

hiya guys can anyone answer this. its about the build-quality compared to the bdp-83

i've heard it has some more heft to it, and improved build. is it easily noticeable. does it feel heavier, or is it pretty much like the 83? I do love my player to be well built

~kristina~

To tell you the truth brother, I actually thought that Netflix and blockbuster both had HD content...(my bad for not doing more research)...but crap!...I cannot "BELIEVE" that they don't!...or that so many people like that crappy SD service. You can imagine how pissed off I was when I discovered my new 500.00 Oppo blu-ray player can't do what my 180.00 Panasonic does as far as HD downloads. BTW, The Panasonic 100 model, the 107 model, and the 300 model also offer the same AWESOME internet services...

Patience is a virtue. Good cooking takes time. A watched Blu-ray player never boils (unless you are incredibly unlucky).
--Bob

There have been multiple comments here from folks saying they thought the 93 felt more substantial than the 83. Personally I think they both are fine.
--Bob