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post #5431 of 25196
does anyone think the Qdeo Video Processing is better than the previous Anchor bay chip? far as upconverting goes compared to the ABT? I thought it was pretty damn good, but i dunno what Qdeo is.. by Marvell
post #5432 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post


The BDP-95 uses two ES9018 DAC chips - one for the 7.1-channel output, and another for the dedicated stereo output.

No offense to the reviewer but he should do his homework before posting an online review. That is if he wants to be taken seriously.

Bill

I took the reviewer to simply mean that the same brand of Sabre32 DAC was used, not the specific model number. Apparently you took that differently. But for the record he does not mention the model number.
post #5433 of 25196
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Originally Posted by alma321 View Post

Kind of off topic but does anyone know of a free software that will convert FLAC files to WAV?

FLAC FrontEnd is a simple tool that will also install the FLAC codec.
post #5434 of 25196
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Originally Posted by alma321 View Post

Kind of off topic but does anyone know of a free software that will convert FLAC files to WAV?

The flac codec at sourceforge codes and decodes WAV.
post #5435 of 25196
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

... dbPoweramp can ... do that.

Another vote for dbPoweramp. A great value @ $38 for the full-blown do-everything version.
post #5436 of 25196
Bluraychip.dk has silently pushed back the ship date for the BDP-93 region-free DIY mod kit. The new listed ship date is February 9, 2011. It would have been nice had they actually sent out an email to people who had already ordered the kit letting them know of this delay. I have yet to actually receive an email from them saying the release had been pushed back.
post #5437 of 25196
Just found this today as I had pre-ordered and was curious. Not impressed with the news. I hate pre-ordering only to be told near ship date release has been pushed back. If any other suppliers out there have them ready, I'll order one and cancel the other..
post #5438 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Kincaid View Post

Bluraychip.dk has silently pushed back the ship date for the BDP-93 region-free DIY mod kit. The new listed ship date is February 9, 2011. It would have been nice had they actually sent out an email to people who had already ordered the kit letting them know of this delay. I have yet to actually receive an email from them saying the release had been pushed back.

Hopefully this is for new orders, and orders already placed will still be filled on the 26th.

I know when I ordered my mod kit for the 83, there was quite a demand, and the ship date for new orders was later thyan the original orders. Not sure who I orderd that through, though.
post #5439 of 25196
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Originally Posted by dogone View Post

That was the rumor I heard too...But I emailed them yesterday and this is what I got back...

"We are looking into supporting additional streaming services, but at this time we are only confirming the support of certified technologies, which is Netflix and Blockbuster On Demand. We will be supporting many more technologies throughout the lifespan of the player and will just require an easy firmware upgrade to take advantage of them."

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.

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Originally Posted by dogone View Post

It's upsetting me because I want it "NOW!"...In the meantime, I am watching Blu-ray on the Oppo and downstreaming awesome HD content through Vudu and Amazon on my Panasonic 350 unit...(Kinda sucks if you ask me)...COME ON OPPO! Get your act together!...

dogone,

You ask and they answered! Oppo NEVER promised Vudu or Amazon streaming. If you based a part of your buying decision on support for these streaming technologies, then either you have to wait patiently and see if Oppo will offer this support or continue to use your Sony.


Willie
post #5440 of 25196
I've never owned an Oppo and was considering purchasing one in the next couple months. I apologize in advance if this has been covered already but 300+ pages is a bit much to wade through. To those owners out there I'm curious is the BDP-93 able to be made all-region/region-free without hardware modifications (i.e. remote codes)? Thanks
post #5441 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Kincaid View Post

Bluraychip.dk has silently pushed back the ship date for the BDP-93 region-free DIY mod kit. The new listed ship date is February 9, 2011. It would have been nice had they actually sent out an email to people who had already ordered the kit letting them know of this delay. I have yet to actually receive an email from them saying the release had been pushed back.

The mod kit for the BDP-83 had a pretty good track record, so hopefully, the 93 mod kit itself will work well once it's actually released. (Because, unfortunately, their customer support leaves a lot to be desired when things don't work right. )
post #5442 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Invictus87 View Post

I've never owned an Oppo and was considering purchasing one in the next couple months. I apologize in advance if this has been covered already but 300+ pages is a bit much to wade through. To those owners out there I'm curious is the BDP-93 able to be made all-region/region-free without hardware modifications (i.e. remote codes)? Thanks

No, you need a hardware mod
post #5443 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Invictus87 View Post

To those owners out there I'm curious is the BDP-93 able to be made all-region/region-free without hardware modifications (i.e. remote codes)? Thanks

For DVDs, yes. For Blu-rays, no.
post #5444 of 25196
I picked up the superdisc off of ebay. its only for dvd regions and not for blu ray. I did try the mod for the oppo 83 but I had problems getting it to work. I was more concern about doing region free dvds then blu rays.

Jacob
post #5445 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I picked up the superdisc off of ebay. its only for dvd regions and not for blu ray. I did try the mod for the oppo 83 but I had problems getting it to work. I was more concern about doing region free dvds then blu rays.

Jacob

Did it work on the 93?
post #5446 of 25196
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

I took the reviewer to simply mean that the same brand of Sabre32 DAC was used, not the specific model number. Apparently you took that differently. But for the record he does not mention the model number.

Yes apparently. I can understand how you interpreted what the reviewer was saying. Although he does not mention Sabre32 specifically he says ESS DACs which is even more vague. But as I said in my post if the reviewer wants to be taken seriously I would think he would point out specifically that the 95 has better Sabre32 DACs than those used for the 83SE. And yes for the record he does not mention the model number but I'm not sure how that matters.

Bill
post #5447 of 25196
the superdisc is for the oppo 93 only. yes it does work.

Jacob
post #5448 of 25196
I got a response from Oppo on Qdeo True Color (QTC). It turns out QTC is disabled when you use a "dithered" deep color setting, and that another, slightly lower quality method of producing deep color is used. So I'd advise using a non-dithered setting, if you are able to use 10-bit or 12-bit color with your equipment. The only case I'd see for using dithering is if you'll be using 8-bit color because your equipment doesn't support deep color, in which case using dithered output might improve quality very, very slightly. So the best-practice settings are probably: 8-bit, 8-bit dithered, 10-bit non-dithered, or 12-bit, depending on your equipment. IMO 10-bit dithered is probably best avoided, though in any case we're talking about very, vanishingly small differences.
post #5449 of 25196
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Originally Posted by PugetsoundHD View Post

Those of you who may have read our earlier postings about handshaking issues between the 93 and our Integra DTS-8.8 (nicely solved by an Oppo firmware upgrade!) and motor/transport noise when playing shiny discs will have the background for this post. Briefly, the 93 makes noise when playing all types of discs. Sometimes totally quiet. At other times the noise can be heard from 20+' away. Our 83 is much quieter and our Panasonic BDP-30 is virtually noiseless while our Cambridge 840 CD player is totally quiet. We have worked with Oppo CS on this issue for several weeks but were made aware early last week that the noise is within specs and that was that. They returned our loaned BR and, of course, have offered for us to return the 93.

We really don't want to do this having been very satisfied owners of two previous Oppos including the 83 which was upgraded to the SE. It has been the heart of our stereo and A/V systems for some time now. We even prefer the 83SE over the Cambridge 840 as the 83SE just sounds right when listening over an extended period of time. This is always the hallmark of a great music reproducing product in our household.

After a great deal of thought and checking the alternatives we have decided to keep the 93 and use it mainly for our BRs and streaming Netflix (and hopefully Vudu & Pandora soon) as well as an interface for a new HD streaming setup here at home. Might decide to try the 95 when it becomes available and hope the different layout/case might bring relief for the excessive motor/transport noise of the 93. Have already signed up to be notified when it is released. We're aware that most of the 93 users will not be placing music playing as a high priority and, therefore, are unlikely to find the noise problem an issue.

Under steadily clearing (it does happen) Seattle skies, Gill

For what it is worth my 93 is quieter than a sleeping baby.
post #5450 of 25196
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

Steve,

What in the 83 specs that Oppo did not deliver on and you are now paying for it in the 93?

Willie

Sorry about dropping a comment and then going on vacation .

Naturally Oppo didn't advertise something they didn't have in the 83, but they supported file formats in their earlier players that they never got to in the 83. Formats like wmv, mov and mp4 would have been nice. Really they added very few features after the initial release of the 83. Their R&D went into new SKUs like the 83SE but features through firmware got very little attention. (Streaming I get--the hardware didn't support it.)

Did they promise they'd add anything in firmware? Other than non-committal statements that new features could be added in firmware, no. Did people talk like they would when the 83 came out? Definitely.

So my point is that someone should not buy the 93 with hopes of getting anything beyond what is in the current 93 specs, including new streaming providers, if the 83 is to be a guide. As a 93 owner I hope to be pleasantly surprised (e.g. Amazon and Vudu would be nice), but I bought without assuming they'd ever be there.
post #5451 of 25196
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Originally Posted by CHG View Post

Hopefully this is for new orders, and orders already placed will still be filled on the 26th.

I know when I ordered my mod kit for the 83, there was quite a demand, and the ship date for new orders was later thyan the original orders. Not sure who I orderd that through, though.

I'm hoping you are correct and that my order will still ship out on the 26th. I pre-ordered the first day you could actually place an order with Bluraychip.dk.

I believe I grabbed my DIY kit from JVB Digital right when it came out for the BDP-83. I got lucky and didn't have to wait.

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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

The mod kit for the BDP-83 had a pretty good track record, so hopefully, the 93 mod kit itself will work well once it's actually released. (Because, unfortunately, their customer support leaves a lot to be desired when things don't work right. )

The kit from JVB Digital has worked beautifully in my BDP-83. In the long run the Bluraychip.dk kit is a tad easier to install, however. I'll be interested to see if JVB Digital's kit is more like the Bluraychip.dk kit this time around due to this.

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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I picked up the superdisc off of ebay. its only for dvd regions and not for blu ray. I did try the mod for the oppo 83 but I had problems getting it to work. I was more concern about doing region free dvds then blu rays.

Jacob

If that works then I see many people being happy with the superdisc. It's easy to do and cheap. I know a lot of people with DVDs from all around the world but most people I know don't buy Blu-Rays from other regions. Since I have more than a few non-Region A discs so I have to be able to change the Blu-Ray region. Too bad the superdisc doesn't allow it.
post #5452 of 25196
does anyone think the Qdeo Video Processing is better than the previous Anchor bay chip? far as upconverting goes compared to the ABT? I thought it was pretty damn good, but i dunno what Qdeo is.. by Marvell
post #5453 of 25196
I've no experience with the ABT-chip. But in my opinion I think in deinterlacing of the QDeo isn't so good. My former Sony BDP-S1000ES (I believe this the 760 I had here in Europe) had a much better deinterlacing performance against the QDeo from BDP-93EU. (Tested with PAL-DVDs)

Scaling on the other site is pretty well and the video EQ has a lot of usefull settings.

What are other experiences?
post #5454 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post
Folks, the power cord that comes with the player is way more than sufficient. There is NOTHING to be gained by replacing it.

Now, replacing the wall power outlet you happen to be using, and the contractor's power wiring inside your walls, and your circuit breaker box, and the distribution line from your neighborhood step-down transformer to your house, and that step-down transformer itself, and the distribution line from it to the power station, and the power station itself would, well --- ALSO make no difference. But there's more chance that replacing all that WOULD make a difference than replacing the last 3 feet -- the power cord itself.

The power cord's job is to carry the necessary current without voltage drop, and to be durable enough to survive normal use. That's it. Instead, the player's power supply design is the critical element in all of this.

Trust the power supply in the player to do its job. Stop worrying about the power cord.

No, that's OK, you don't have to thank me.

--------------------------------------------

Now what you should really be worried about is the air. Do you have audiophile air in your room? No? Oh, tch....
--Bob
Just curious. Why do you think they wasted time and MFG costs to use an IEC plug and separate cord and not just hard wire lamp cord like a cheap sony player if that is all that is needed for optimal use?

I do have a dedicated line, breaker, hospital grade outlets and an APC unit and with my main sound system you can surely hear a difference but I am sure the doubly blind and deaf folks will chime in otherwise.

I chose to use a thicker gauge and more heavily shielded power cord, but not a high end one instead of the supplied zip cord.
post #5455 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Hyfi View Post
Just curious. Why do you think they wasted time and MFG costs to use an IEC plug and separate cord and not just hard wire lamp cord like a cheap sony player if that is all that is needed for optimal use?
Perhaps because the the player's internal power supply is universal (i.e. 120-240V/50-60Hz) and different international regions use variously shaped outlet plugs?

Sounds like pretty smart engineering to me. It's easier and cheaper to pack a different cord for each region than design and manufacture a different chassis.

(BTW, my entire home theater is also on a dedicated circuit with an uninterrupted power supply. We have very few power outages here, but minor and temporary under voltages are common in my neighborhood for whatever reason. The battery in the UPC cleanly takes care of it all. I'm still not concerned about the Oppo's cord, however.)
post #5456 of 25196
A removable power cord is also required by safety regulations in some jurisdictions because the player does not have a mechanical power switch that physically disconnects the power line from the internals. It's also a convenience for folks who prefer a shorter or longer cord for installation. It also makes configuration easier for the European version (same hardware build).

There's also the purely marketing reason that Oppo is well aware some purchasers will want to replace the power cord, even though it really isn't necessary.
--Bob
post #5457 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Questioneer View Post
I've no experience with the ABT-chip. But in my opinion I think in deinterlacing of the QDeo isn't so good. My former Sony BDP-S1000ES (I believe this the 760 I had here in Europe) had a much better deinterlacing performance against the QDeo from BDP-93EU. (Tested with PAL-DVDs)
My experience with PAL DVDs is that the deinterlacing is great, as long as you don't have subtitles enabled. I'm actually impressed by its ability to detect PAL film mode (2:2 cadence) but I find that it easily gets "confused" by subtitles. This is using the Qdeo, not the same thing happens via HDMI 2.
post #5458 of 25196
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Originally Posted by Questioneer View Post
I've no experience with the ABT-chip. But in my opinion I think in deinterlacing of the QDeo isn't so good. My former Sony BDP-S1000ES (I believe this the 760 I had here in Europe) had a much better deinterlacing performance against the QDeo from BDP-93EU. (Tested with PAL-DVDs)

Scaling on the other site is pretty well and the video EQ has a lot of usefull settings.

What are other experiences?
It may very well be that what you are seeing is not a de-interlacing problem, but whatever the case may be, if you can get details to Oppo tech support they will surely check it out and find out what's up.

In addition to disc title and time code, include the ISBN or bar code number from the disc package as many titles are issued in multiple versions, often with different authoring and unique problems.

Also let them know your video settings.
--Bob
post #5459 of 25196
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Originally Posted by chs4000 View Post

I got a response from Oppo on Qdeo True Color (QTC). It turns out QTC is disabled when you use a "dithered" deep color setting, and that another, slightly lower quality method of producing deep color is used. So I'd advise using a non-dithered setting, if you are able to use 10-bit or 12-bit color with your equipment. The only case I'd see for using dithering is if you'll be using 8-bit color because your equipment doesn't support deep color, in which case using dithered output might improve quality very, very slightly. So the best-practice settings are probably: 8-bit, 8-bit dithered, 10-bit non-dithered, or 12-bit, depending on your equipment. IMO 10-bit dithered is probably best avoided, though in any case we're talking about very, vanishingly small differences.

Dithering should happen whenever a higher bit depth video stream (perhaps the result of intermediate video processing) is reduced to a lower bit depth for display.

For example, no consumer "Deep Color" capable displays can actually produce 36 bits of discernible video difference at the pixels. Better displays are generally 30 bit at the pixels. So if you send 36 bit video to the display, dithering should happen at some point before the pixels light up.

The width of the video processing path through the AVR or display is also important. There are still "Deep Color" displays being sold which accept 30 or 36 bit video but simply strip off those extra, low order bits on input and use only 24 bits of that. If they truncate instead of dithering when they do that, dithering added in the player might work better.

Now usually you don't have to worry about this as dithering is done in the display. But this may not be true for lower quality displays or for displays engineered for use as computer monitors. That last can be the gotcha as some displays disable dithering when sent their "native" resolution.

As you point out, Dithering will most likely be of use if you have a display with 24 bit pixels (8 bits per component), but there can be cases where it is useful even if you have a 30 bit pixel display.

The bottom line is simple: Check for yourself and see which setting works best with YOUR AVR and display. ODDS ARE you will not need to turn on Dithering in a modern, 1080p, "Deep Color" capable display. But it is still worth a check.

Similarly, it is not guaranteed that 36 bit will be better than 30 bit, and 30 bit better than OFF (i.e., 24 bit) even if you have an AVR and a display that accept all of those. Sometimes this is just due to bugs in the AVR or display. Just try it and see for yourself.
--Bob
post #5460 of 25196
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Netflix DOES have HD content, but not all Netflix content is available in HD - that's not a limitation of the OPPO. The BDP-93 doesn't get 5.1 audio yet (this is expected to change), but it does have access to the HD feeds, which fall somewhere between DVD and Blu-ray quality, when they're available.

I haven't used Blockbuster, but I thought HD was available from them too (when Blockbuster has the content available in HD) on the OPPO.

I have streamed Blockbuster through the Oppo which produced outstanding PQ and flawless play although it was a CGI film (Alpha & Omega).
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