Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 22

Originally Posted by djblaze805

As of Black Friday, I'm now an official BDP-93 owner!

I have it hooked up using both HDMI connections--HDMI 1 to the Kuro and HDMI 2 to the Onkyo. Popped in my Avatar Collector's Blu-Ray. It looked Glorious.

Tested out Netflix as well. The HD programming available looked just as good as Netflix on my Xbox 360.

Originally Posted by rwinner

I'm glad this came up again since I'm feeling dense about what's the best option in this situation. I, too, have a Nova with a 93 on the way, and I understand that there are licensing restrictions in the output from SACD's. Am I right that I can get the 93 to output (96K?) PCM derived from the SACD stereo layer through the s/pdif output? If that is the case, then what are the options for Nova/93 owners playing SACD? I can think of several:
(1) output the SACD's CD layer via (1a) s/pdif PCM or (1b) FR/FL analog
(2) output the SACD stereo layer converted via (2a) s/pdif PCM or (2b) FR/FL analog
(3) output the downmixed-to-stereo multi-channel layer, but I'm not sure via (3a) s/pdif but probably allowed via (3b) FR/FL
(4) output the FR/FL tracks only from the multi-channel layer via FR/FL analog.
Here's what I understand and please correct my errors:
(A) (1) is no different from playing a regular CD
(B) (2) may be better than (1) but this is controversial. I assume it is true; otherwise, this discussion is moot.
(C) not sure if (3) differs from (2), and if so if it's better or worse
(D) (4) is not desirable.
(E) If my assumption that the 93 can convert the SACD stereo track to PCM is incorrect, I might need to get an HDMI audio decoupler that can do the conversion. I have found the Atlona AT-HD570 and the Kramer FC-46, which are respectively expensive and more expensive potential solutions. I really prefer not to have to do this on the chance of a slight improvement in sacd sound.

I am guessing (F) 2a > 2b > 1a > 1b where ">" means "is better than". I've no idea about (G) ?: 3a > 2a.

I hope for someone to inform me if all these are allowed and possible with the 93 and to opine which of the allowed options is likely to produce the best result, that is, whether (F) is correct and all are allowed and similarly (G). You can assume no interest in multichannel (>2) audio and that I have SACD's. Most of the music I listen to classical, but that may not be relevant.

Originally Posted by wmcclain

Yes, although they cannot guarantee support because there are too many variables in media, burners and software. But it works for me. I use Verbatim for dual layer.

-Bill

Originally Posted by rwinner

I'm glad this came up again since I'm feeling dense about what's the best option in this situation. I, too, have a Nova with a 93 on the way, and I understand that there are licensing restrictions in the output from SACD's. Am I right that I can get the 93 to output (96K?) PCM derived from the SACD stereo layer through the s/pdif output? If that is the case, then what are the options for Nova/93 owners playing SACD? I can think of several:
(1) output the SACD's CD layer via (1a) s/pdif PCM or (1b) FR/FL analog
(2) output the SACD stereo layer converted via (2a) s/pdif PCM or (2b) FR/FL analog
(3) output the downmixed-to-stereo multi-channel layer, but I'm not sure via (3a) s/pdif but probably allowed via (3b) FR/FL
(4) output the FR/FL tracks only from the multi-channel layer via FR/FL analog.
Here's what I understand and please correct my errors:
(A) (1) is no different from playing a regular CD
(B) (2) may be better than (1) but this is controversial. I assume it is true; otherwise, this discussion is moot.
(C) not sure if (3) differs from (2), and if so if it's better or worse
(D) (4) is not desirable.
(E) If my assumption that the 93 can convert the SACD stereo track to PCM is incorrect, I might need to get an HDMI audio decoupler that can do the conversion. I have found the Atlona AT-HD570 and the Kramer FC-46, which are respectively expensive and more expensive potential solutions. I really prefer not to have to do this on the chance of a slight improvement in sacd sound.

I am guessing (F) 2a > 2b > 1a > 1b where ">" means "is better than". I've no idea about (G) ?: 3a > 2a.

I hope for someone to inform me if all these are allowed and possible with the 93 and to opine which of the allowed options is likely to produce the best result, that is, whether (F) is correct and all are allowed and similarly (G). You can assume no interest in multichannel (>2) audio and that I have SACD's. Most of the music I listen to classical, but that may not be relevant.

Due to copyright restrictions, SACD audio cannot be sent through the coaxial or optical digital audio output. To listen to SACD, please use the HDMI or analog audio connections.

Originally Posted by captcraig

I tired the workaround and did the same. Only with the Pioneer VSX-92...no dice. Same issue, the Oppo shuts my receiver off every time. Frustrating!
Guess I'll have to wait till Monday to speak to a customer service rep.

Originally Posted by chs4000

I'm fascinated by the number of air vents on this player. There are zero, which tells me they probably turned the whole unit, body & all, into one big heatsink. As far as I can tell that's pretty unorthodox amongst high-end blu-ray players -- my commendation to Oppo if this design really works and helps contribute to long-term player reliability beyond the warranty period.

Originally Posted by wzh2hz

First of all, thanks for all the great info in this thread. It's been very helpful. I'm having a problem connecting the 93 to my PC for media sharing. The 93 is wireless to the network. That works fine. I'm running Vista on the PC and thought I would use WMP 11 to connect. I'm probably doing something stupid, but I don't see the 93 through WMP. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Originally Posted by ebrabaek

Bob...... I follow your sister thread on the d2v side.......even it`s running faster than myself........... I got my 93 Yesterday.....but won`t have a chance to set it up until Tuesday. I have the d2v as well....... Any particular settings on the 93 with the d2v setup that you recommend????? I just though that you have`em all down.......

Erling

Originally Posted by wzh2hz

First of all, thanks for all the great info in this thread. It's been very helpful. I'm having a problem connecting the 93 to my PC for media sharing. The 93 is wireless to the network. That works fine. I'm running Vista on the PC and thought I would use WMP 11 to connect. I'm probably doing something stupid, but I don't see the 93 through WMP. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Originally Posted by mezman

Does anyone in the know have any idea if Oppo plans to implement search for Netflix? That was a disappointment for me to find that there's no search now that the XBOX can do it.

Originally Posted by mezman


Also, I have a question regarding "Demo" mode. Has that been implemented yet?

Originally Posted by mezman

Does anyone in the know have any idea if Oppo plans to implement search for Netflix? That was a disappointment for me to find that there's no search now that the XBOX can do it.

Also, I have a question regarding "Demo" mode. Has that been implemented yet? It doesn't seem to do anything on my player when enabled whether playing BDs or DVDs. It's not critical, but I'd like a way to be able to easily compare the processing done by the QDEO to source direct. I can't really tell any difference between the two when cycling though my options using the resolution button on the remote.

Originally Posted by nathan_h

No way to get any output from any SACD layer (stereo or surround) directly from the optical or coax output.
...You may want to compare analog output of the stereo SACD layer using the Oppo's analog outputs versus the PCM output from the CD layer using your receiver/converter.
...
The cheapest solution I have see to taking the HDMI SACD internally concerted to LPCM output and pulling the PCM off of it is the Monoprice splitter. ....

Originally Posted by gsr

From the manual:

...
Option 2a is not possible, option 2b is.
Option 3a is not possible, option 3b is.
Option 4 is not desirable as, depending on the specific SACD, you'll be missing quite a bit of the content.

(A) Correct
(B) 2b can be better than 1 because you're working with a better quality source signal. But the end result will depend on the exact equipment being used.
(C) IMO, 2b is better than 3b in most cases. But this is a try it both ways, pick what you prefer sort of thing.
(D) Correct - you'd be potentially throwing a way a lot of important content.
(E) The 93 can convert DSD to PCM, but it will only send it out over HDMI (or analog after the PCM is passed through the DAC). It can also convert DSD direct to analog through the internal DAC.

But the bottom line is that you can't get SACD in any form over the coax or toslink digital outputs on the 93 due to licensing restrictions.

Originally Posted by egreen1976

Can the Oppo be used to decode audio streaming from my Mac?

Originally Posted by captcraig

I tired the workaround and did the same. Only with the Pioneer VSX-92...no dice. Same issue, the Oppo shuts my receiver off every time. Frustrating!
Guess I'll have to wait till Monday to speak to a customer service rep.

Originally Posted by slimoli

May I suggest captcraig to also change the HDMI cable from the player to the Pio ?

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

The bottom plate of the chassis radiates a lot of heat. I think that like any player one should exercise caution with ventilation for the player. But so far we haven't seen any real heat issues. Discs will come out warm but not hot. I've had my -93 running for 12+ hrs with no noticeable increase in heat. My hunch is that the real secret is to use components that don't generate the heat to begin with.

Originally Posted by slimoli

I did some research about the Pioneer VSX92 shutting off , since I have the 94 and expect my 93 soon. Here are some more suggestions based on what I found :

-Turn off "deep color" on the player.
-Turn off "phase control on the receiver"
-Check if your speakers are perfectly connected , no bad wiring.
-Check if your speakers match the impedance setting on the receiver. (see the manual).

BTW, are you using speaker with low impedance, 4 or lower ?

Do a search on the 92THX thread , you will find few people with similar shut-off problems. There is a guy there who knows everything about the receiver, "lagairre".

Originally Posted by kdavison007

Has anyone had problems streaming using My Network and DLNA/UPnP? My BDP-83 streamed .mkv without issues, but I keep getting the "format not supported" error when trying to stream files the 83 would stream.

Originally Posted by adidino

Strange.. I have a very similar setup (MX5000 + MSC400) works fine for me using mono-mono cable.

Originally Posted by slimoli

I did some research about the Pioneer VSX92 shutting off , since I have the 94 and expect my 93 soon. Here are some more suggestions based on what I found :

-Turn off "deep color" on the player.
-Turn off "phase control on the receiver"
-Check if your speakers are perfectly connected , no bad wiring.
-Check if your speakers match the impedance setting on the receiver. (see the manual).

BTW, are you using speaker with low impedance, 4 or lower ?

Do a search on the 92THX thread , you will find few people with similar shut-off problems. There is a guy there who knows everything about the receiver, "lagairre".

Originally Posted by captcraig

Also the Receiver doesn't shut off while watching cable or streaming Netflix only when playing Blu-rays, so if the wiring was bad wouldn't it effect any of the other options? Just a thought.