Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 236

Originally Posted by nathan_h

Oh yes, there is a whole other thread about how even with the HD streams, the PC playback of Netflix streaming (even on high end video cards) is of lower quality than even the cheapest standalone devices. (Lots of speculation there about the whys and how much. Not on topic here.)



You are in luck. All outputs are active all the time.

Originally Posted by caesar1

If streaming becomes the main method for consumers to get new films, high quality home theater is dead -- and many of us wasted tons of money.

Originally Posted by Rocket Queen

Can I connect both co-axial and analog interconnects at the same time? Does the Oppo default the signal to the digital out if a co-axial cable is connected, and if it cannot send a signal that way (because it recognizes a SACD or DVD-A disc) will it automatically convert the signal to analog and send it through the analog outputs?

Originally Posted by scolumbo

No reason to think streaming and physical media can't co-exist. What is in jeopardy is disc rental. Studios would love to sell you the disc first, and if they can't get you to buy it, then stream it to you on a pay-per-view basis.

When Blockbuster stores are all sold off for the value of the real estate they occupy, and Netflix is a streaming-only service, disc rental will be distant memory. Physical disc ownership will survive for the foreseeable future, too much money still to be made in selling shiny discs.

Oppo has to see the hand-writing on the wall. There's no way they don't improve and expand on the crappy Netflix and Blockbuster services currently in the 93 so they can be at least competitive with all the other streaming devices currently or soon to be on the market. Adding VUDU would be a huge step as they appear to be the streaming PQ leader at the moment.

Originally Posted by Rocket Queen

rdgrimes, I don't have a full-fledged home theater. I run the Oppo via HDMI cable to my high def computer monitor, and from there the audio runs to my Klipsch computer speakers. This is when watching movies. However, I also have a dedicated two channel set up in the same room, and might want to run red book CD through the Oppo's analog outs to my integrated amp. Certainly I'd have to when playing SACD. Or, via the digital out to an external DAC (likely the new Rega DAC).

While I'm sure the Oppo DAC is of high quality, surely a dedicated $1K DAC like Rega's would be superior??

Originally Posted by Rocket Queen

Hi everyone,

I picked up a BDP-93 yesterday. Nice quality DVD playback and nice build quality are my initial impressions. I have one question.

I'm considering an external DAC for CD playback and running a digital signal from the Oppo via coaxial cable. But the Oppo will not output DVD-A or SACD through the digital outs, so I'll also have to use the analog outs direct to my amp for those formats.

Can I connect both co-axial and analog interconnects at the same time? Does the Oppo default the signal to the digital out if a co-axial cable is connected, and if it cannot send a signal that way (because it recognizes a SACD or DVD-A disc) will it automatically convert the signal to analog and send it through the analog outputs?

Originally Posted by scolumbo

No reason to think streaming and physical media can't co-exist. What is in jeopardy is disc rental. Studios would love to sell you the disc first, and if they can't get you to buy it, then stream it to you on a pay-per-view basis.

When Blockbuster stores are all sold off for the value of the real estate they occupy, and Netflix is a streaming-only service, disc rental will be distant memory. Physical disc ownership will survive for the foreseeable future, too much money still to be made in selling shiny discs.

Oppo has to see the hand-writing on the wall. There's no way they don't improve and expand on the crappy Netflix and Blockbuster services currently in the 93 so they can be at least competitive with all the other streaming devices currently or soon to be on the market. Adding VUDU would be a huge step as they appear to be the streaming PQ leader at the moment.

Originally Posted by scolumbo

No reason to think streaming and physical media can't co-exist. What is in jeopardy is disc rental. Studios would love to sell you the disc first, and if they can't get you to buy it, then stream it to you on a pay-per-view basis.

When Blockbuster stores are all sold off for the value of the real estate they occupy, and Netflix is a streaming-only service, disc rental will be distant memory. Physical disc ownership will survive for the foreseeable future, too much money still to be made in selling shiny discs.

Oppo has to see the hand-writing on the wall. There's no way they don't improve and expand on the crappy Netflix and Blockbuster services currently in the 93 so they can be at least competitive with all the other streaming devices currently or soon to be on the market. Adding VUDU would be a huge step as they appear to be the streaming PQ leader at the moment.

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau

All the audio outputs are live, regardless, although the S/PDIF outputs (Coax/Optical) can not carry certain signals for copy protection reasons.

So if you want you can hook up both Analog and Coax and they won't interfere with each other.

But seriously, you really should give the Analog output a careful listen before you commit to using an external DAC on the Coax output.

Oh, and if Analog audio is your focus, you should also think seriously about returning your 93 and getting a BDP-95 instead in March. There are some very interesting review results coming in now. See the end of the 95 owner's thread in this forum. $500 more for the 95, but then you don't also have to spend money on an external DAC.
--Bob

Originally Posted by TreyS

You can play SACD and DVD-A over coax/ Optical with this, granted you'll lose multi-channel information but 2ch SACD works fine. Harmany One remote can control it as well.

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Originally Posted by caesar1

I could have waited another few days for the blu-ray rental to arrive via mail from block buster -- I simply chose not to. So they got me this one time on the purchase, where I likely would have preferred rental -- but that's very rare. My point was, I'm willing to pay for a blu-ray I may or may not watch very often, in order to avoid much lower quality streaming. In reality, my choice was, buy the blu-ray if I want to watch it today, or wait for a rental to come via mail. Streaming was simply NOT a viable option. I didn't set up a 114 inch screen, and 7.l surround sound (and buy an Oppo 93) in order to watch inferior AQ and PQ streams where there is an existing high quality alternative -- it simply won't happen.

With the physical media, I'm in control -- not some server some where. Nor do I like the clunky FF/Rewind and lack of menu options, etc. with streaming. I like choosing the audio from the various tracks; I like chapter skips and scene selections, etc.

Even if you get 5.1 and 1080p (non-compressed) on all new releases via streaming (which probably won't happen anytime soon), you still won't get lossless audio, and probably never 7.1 (even though 7.1 may be rare on physical blu-rays).

Streaming is to high quality home theater, what .mp3 files are to hi-fidelity music. If streaming becomes the main method for consumers to get new films, high quality home theater is dead -- and many of us wasted tons of money.

Streaming should not be "downplayed" by the studios, it should be a different target audience. Those without home theaters (or lacking a 55 inch or above display or lacking a surround sound set up); or those seeking to view old TV material and the like, which was never in high def. But to tout streaming as the future for all home viewing is simply not true. Those who push for it, do so at the peril of pushing high quality presentations to a tiny niche -- with less access and less attention by the studios.

As far as purchasing the blu-ray without seeing -- I think I've done that for almost every Pixar movie.

Originally Posted by p5browne

How come CR doesn't test the OPPO's? Samsung C-6900 came #1 followed by the Sony BDPS770 - but no OPPOs!

Originally Posted by p5browne

How come CR doesn't test the OPPO's? Samsung C-6900 came #1 followed by the Sony BDPS770 - but no OPPOs!

Originally Posted by t-town oil

hey guys, havent posted on here alot, but have lurked quite awhile. have a quick question about cd playback (analog) in the 93 vs. playback from my current 51fd. does anyone with both of the players notice quite a bit of difference in the two or would it benefit me to go all out and get the 95. thanks in advance for any useful info. it would be going to an elite sc-07 for now...

Originally Posted by Audiodork

Hello,
I have found Netflix to look excellent on the OPPO. I realize that many do not feel that way, but it does make me wonder about the Internet Speed at the locations where people have not been pleased with its performance.

The Netflix UI has been brought up ad nauseum, but it terms of PQ the HD Feeds have always looked great and I have never had issues with rebuffering.
Cheers,
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty

Much has to do with your display/size.

Most HD Netflix streams still look like VHS/worse via my JVC PJ on a 126 inch screen. When viewed on either my 36 or 54 inch plasma they can look great.

And yes, bandwidth has some to do with it - as in not enough will garnish you less than HD regardless of the movie etc.

Originally Posted by Greg / MO

Just got my Oppo BDP-93 in from Amazon... gonna set it all up when I hook up my speakers and everything all at once. Decided I'd leave it in the box it came in until my buddy who's coming over to help set up the whole thing so he can see just how nicely this thing is packaged... Amazing! If the player is as nice as everything it's wrapped up in, I'm going to be one happy buyer!

Originally Posted by slimoli


There is another thing that is not so easy to determine. Netflix adjusts the picture quality according to the speed but also requires a STABLE connection. My internet spped is up to 24 Mbps but during the evening it goes from 18 to 12 Mbps. When the speed drops, even if it remains far above the minimum for the best HD, the stream is adjusted to a lower quality. I guess this is done to prevent a potential reload of the video. I can clearly see this using the PS3 because it shows the stream quality in real time. The Oppo is no exception, during the day the picture quality is really good in HD but many times it gets downgraded during the evenings.
I also noticed that Amazon VOD does the same when I use my Panasonic TV or Sony bluray player.

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau

They usually have an upper limit on price. Also, in this specific case the 93 may not have made their availability cutoff -- i.e., when test units had to be purchasable. (At the moment, Amazon is showing the 93 outselling both of those.)
--Bob