Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 239

For the record, this is an awesome combination.

If it helps anyone else, the Logitech software doesn't send discrete power codes to the BDP-93 by default (not sure why it opts for PowerToggle), but they can be manually configured. It's pretty easy--the PowerOn and PowerOff commands are already on the command list, you just need to tell the remote to use them.

Thanks to everyone for their help.

Any one with a US player and a stack of PAL discs, can you confirm if your player fails to display video when you first load the disc... audio plays and display handshakes and receives a signal but signal is a black screen. Pressing stop and then play corrects the problem. Want to try to track down an few more reports of this problem so that we might have a shot at it being fixed in future firmware updates.

Popped my LEXX PAL DVDs in and away they went - alot better quality then what I was getting off my PAL/NTSC Converter DVD Player! Narry a problem, but definitely better Detailing and Colour!

Has anyone been able to get the external IR in to work? I have also tried both stereo to stereo and mono to mono cables and neither worked with my Harmony RF extender. Oppo CS told me that the IR-IN signal may be too strong for the IR-IN and would need to add a resistor to my player.

Lance

It works for me with a MFR-350 from Universal Remote Control. The cable is mono to mono. At first I tried a mono/stereo but it did not worked.

Use a mono/mono cable and double check to make sure the plug is FULLY inserted in the socket at both ends.
--Bob

Ok I wanted to read this thread but, with 7149 responses it just can't be done.

I did read about 50 pages and found some of what I was looking for. The sound quality of the 93 is less than what I was expecting. It is, as others have said THIN, Analytical, lacking musicality. Prior to downloading the update via disc firmware 38-0126 the sound was 1/4 speed to fast? After loading it, it sounds right but lacks the aforementioned sound quality.

To help I will list my equipment. Arcam Av-9 processor, Bryston 4B sst, 6B sst, Dali Helicon 800 fronts, Dali CC5 center and Dali phantoms for the rears. Also use a Furman power conditioner. I am comparing the 93 to a Sony BDs550 for P/Q and audio on the 5.1 side. I have a 65" Mitsubishi CRT RPTV and a CRT Marquee 9500 L/C modded projector. Both use HDMI for video and analog for sound.

On the stereo and SACD side it is being compared to an Integra DPS10.5 DVD player that uses Wolfson DACS. The Arcam uses Crystal DACS when decoding internally. The Arcam passes the audio through untouched, analog direct.

The P/Q of the OPPO is flat out hands down better than the Sony in every way. Depth, color rendition,stability. However; the Sony sounds fuller, brighter, with DTS MA. The CD and SACD sound better on the OPPO than the Sony easily. But the Integra DVD blows them both away for music for either CD or SACD. And by a large margin.

I was considering the 95 to compete with the Integra because they are both isolated designs. But The secrets to High Fidelity scope test shows them as nearly identical in responses. So I thought the scope can't lie, why spend the extra cash?

The Nuforce edition of the 93 looks to warm up the sound some which is what I think I would want.

I also had a Jolida JD-100a tube CD player but sold it because it was never used as the Integra sound was just to close to it to bother using it.

So in summation the Picture is stunning... the sound ehh.

Anyone else thinking this way? I may just send it back, but I am hesitant as the P/Q wins and maybe just the Nuforce board would solve my issues.

Dave

Quite a few people in the 95 thread are reporting the analog output benefits significantly from break-in. Perhaps you'll find the same on your 93.
--Bob

Thanks for answering Bob. I have seen your posts in that thread too, which I read quite a bit of also, well some. I am not a big believer in breaking in of any sort. When the Integra was put in my system it sound the same on day one as it does now, just fantastic. It probably isn't a fair comparison but it is what it is. If the 95 was not being reported on in the same manner it would be the next choice by design alone, it seems unbeatable in that regard. in that thread is where I notice the [OPPO engineer?] using analytical to describe the sound. I would have said dry or lifeless. But analytical works too.

Any reports on the Nuforce boards yet?

Dave

Not yet.

If you read on in the 95 thread I believe you will find that all of those earlier concerns have been retracted. Rather fun to watch the process actually.
--Bob

Bob should I jump in over there with a, cut and paste, or is that frowned upon here?

I'd suggest you just post a link over there to your post here since you aren't using a 95 at the moment. That will alert folks to your testing here.

If you click on the post number at the upper right of your post it will go to a URL which points right at your post -- copy that from your browser's address line and that's your link.
--Bib

Finally got around to checking the Video section and it is set to 1080p. I don't see any possible streaming setting on the Setup menu.

Thanks Bob, will do.

There isn't one. Are you saying you are not getting 1080p output on HDMI to a 1080p capable AVR or Display when the player is set to explicit 1080p as its output resolution?
--Bob

Thank you for testing.
I agree that the PAL/NTSC performance is far superior to any of my other players with this capability!
Perhaps it is just a peculiarity resulting from my specific setup. It is a small inconvenience for a very small number of discs, but an annoyance nontheless.

Does the 93 stream 1080p/24 i ripped a blu ray to my pc, streaming it works fine its mt2s, dts master works, but it keeps converting to 1080i when i try to play it??

I checked the resolution on the oppo and set it from source to 1080p, and it still outputs 1080i.

Discs themselves work fine.

There's apparently a bug such that 1080p/24.000 content plays properly when streamed but 1080p/23.976 content gets interlaced to 1080i/60. I'm not familiar with the details on this such as whether it is peculiar to specific file formats or such. Perhaps one of the streaming wizards will chime in on this.

However, with 1080p set, you should still get 1080p/60 output on HDMI if your AVR or display will accept that. Some displays accept 1080i/60 and 1080p/24 but don't accept 1080p/60.

Oppo has this bug on the list.
--Bob

Oh ok, i spent alot on my av equipment my flea also only accepts 1080i or 1080/24 so 1080p/60 is not something i really want to use.

This makes sense though since my file was 1080p/23.976

I do get 1080p, but not on streaming. I have the feeling that this is all due to Netflix streaming which I hardly use. Except for the HD streaming, the other streams are not to be confused with a normal dvd bumped up to 1080p, much less a blu-ray. The AVR is a Denon 4311 and is certainly 1080p capable.

You will become a believer in "Break-in" once you give the BDP-93 15-20 hours of continuous play time.
It will continue to refine some more, up to around 50 hours.
Playing a burn-in or test signal disc that sweeps through all the frequencies, helps the process.

One other question. I am having a trouble getting subtitles to play in my mt2s file i ripped, is this something on my end or do subtitles not work on streamed content?

If you have set 1080p output resolution then both SD and HD streams from Netflix should be producing 1080p/60 output on either HDMI 1 or HDMI 2.

What are you getting instead?
--Bob

I'm not the best person to answer questions about streaming of user created content, but my understanding is that only embedded subtitles will stream from a DLNA server.
--Bob

FYI if you Right click on the post # it offers a copy link option that's even easier.
Also, for those wanting to add images to posts, there is a Attach Filles "manage attachments" button available when you scroll down in your "Reply to thread" window which makes it very easy to pull stuff off your HD.

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We shall see. I will be doing an extended movie marathon today with interspersed 2 channel sessions.

Hmmmm, This seems to be affecting me as well, but in a different way. I have the OPPO set for 1080i on HDMI 1 going to the Mitsubishi. 1080p is set to off and 24p is set to off. When the OPPO display is pushed the lower left corner info reads as 23.967hz 16x9. The Mitsubishi is playing fine, P/Q is great, but when the disc changes from menu to active picture or from trailers to a movie the Mitsubishi shows a garbled sinewave as if it's trying to lock onto a frequency or is changing frequencies. This occurs playing a Blu-ray or DVD same appearance of resetting frequencies and display of 23.967hz. As far as I know the Mitsubishi [CRT] can not display 24hz, so this seems odd. I do know the Marquee will not sync to 24hz. But I can not check it because I am re-tubing that right now.

Dave

If you are looking at the On Screen Display from the player, it shows the frame rate of the source material, not the output.

You need to use an info readout on the display to verify what the player is sending, although if you you are using an explicit output resolution I think the HDMI results are always what you would expect from the player settings. Component may be different, both for technical and DRM reasons.

-Bill

Thanks bill