Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 273

That is weird! Is it possible to turn the 3D off and run the backups in 2D? Just to see if they work. To rule out a bad backup.

The main m2ts files play just fine on my computer in 2D.

mustangs1,

What improvements are you looking for? The QDEO has tested out EXCELLENT on the bench from the reviews I've read.


Willie

Regarding the Bluraychip.dk region-free kit:

It has a double-sided sticky pad stuck to the back of it. When you are done connecting up all the wires, peel the film off the bottom of the pad to expose the glue and push the circuit board down so it sticks to the bottom of the BDP-93's chassis.

Does anyone have a large usb or external harddrive connected?

Im finding with my 2tb drive connected the oppo gets quite sluggish? I wanted to rip all my back ups but now im worried it will get worse as I add more movies? Almost like it has trouble with alot of files stored on a drive.

It is important to first determine whether the original disc works: if that doesn't, then why would a rip?

Even if the original disc works, the ripping process may change something crucial, especially as one has to rip to files since the Oppo doesn't support ISO and never will. 3D is a whole new ballgame with multiple files referencing the same sectors on the original disc: when you rip that to files, you create actual new files that may no longer be referenced as in the original.

Make sure the rip changes the minimum possible from the original. Whilst removing PUOPs or adverts and trailers may work okay on many 2D discs, I wouldn't put it past the studios to link it to disc navigation to deter ripping, especially with 3D where the current playback options are very limited.

Some 3D titles use sophisticated checking to confirm whether the title is being played on a 3D or 2D player and refuse to play a 3D-only disc on a 2D player. There are so many variables in Bluray authoring that the opportunity for even official 2D titles not to play properly is quite high, let alone changes introduced during ripping.

Oppo does not guarantee playback of any Bluray title from attached media, so I think you are doing well with success on one 3D ripped title.

The problem is likely in the disc navigation, not the data files themselves.

I have quite a few divx and mkv files stored on a 750GB passport and the Oppo is not sluggish at all in reading the contents: takes about 5 seconds to load when the Movie button is activated. Admittedly, a Bluray AVCHD can potentially contain many files and a 2TB HDD might hold around 50 titles.

2TB drives need sector alignment under windows for maximum speed: I wonder if this is applicable in the Oppo case too.

IIRC, there are also limits to the number of folders in the drive root under windows: again might have some bearing on speed.

Yea they are all avchd but i only put on 5 movies so far, its just like it does something before it shows the drive. It takes like a minute to show the drive when you click on the movie icon.

Under pc windows 7 its lightening fast, just plug and its ready.

I think that's normal. I have a 1TB Passport hooked to my 93 and I have to wait about a minute after the unit is powered to start watching videos. The menus navigation also seem to be a bit slower than the real disk but nothing dramatic.

All you folks into files, streaming, SATA drives, NAS & media servers when all I want to do is play region 2 PAL & region B discs....

I'm in the tech world but you guys make me feel old

I was having a similar problem, it took forever for the player to read the hole HDD, so I plugged the HDD to my PC and started streaming using Twonky media without problems so far. I'm also using Playon to stream Internet media like Hulu to the player wight is working much better after yesterday firmware.

Last night after installing the latest beta firmware, I finally broke down and ran a 50¢ RCA cable from the Oppo to my AVR so I can listen to CDs over coaxial digital without missing the first ~500-750ms of each track as I did over HDMI.

This is my first setup using HDMI-- is it typical for a player to apparently renegotiate the audio connection at the start of each track of the CD? This a serious limitation for content which expects gapless track changes. Every track starts out with empty space as my receiver catches up, then the AVR displays PCM 44.1kHz as if it has sensed a different source audio than it was getting previously. The entire CD is predictably in this same audio format, so why is this happening? The signal path was BDP-93 HDMI 1 > H/K AVR 2600 > TV (TV is off). I didn't experiment with HDMI 2.

It works fine over the coaxial connection with no apparent renegotiation going on as it plays from track to track, so I'll just select that input on my AVR when I want to listen to music from now on. The start of the first track is still snipped off, but that's the receiver's fault.

So the Oppo does not support streaming M2TS files from a DLNA server?

I listen to CDs and SACD and it only happen on the first track for me, so I press play or wait for the loading to finish, then I press back.

I do it every day. Only problem I had is some stuttering when bitrate is over 25-30 Mbps even on a gigabit network. Same files from the USB disk play flawlessly. I have a bunch of movies captured from Directv using my Hauppauge 1212 and they stream just fine (m2ts) but they are limited to 13 Mbps.

Basically it sounds like only a direct attached device will allow playback of Blu-ray folder, streaming via DLNA is not supported nor will be supported by Oppo for hardware and licensing reasons correct?

I am planning to stream from a QNAP NAS, I have a few options in terms of media servers to use, but looking at bitrates most good Blu-ray titles are up in that range as peak rates so this would be a regular issue with the stuttering. I do have a gigabit backbone network, but the Oppo is FastE and this was deemed sufficient for streaming technologies Oppo supports.

I use to have the first Hauppauge TV card back in the day, glad they still make good stuff. PM me details of how you are using this to capture DirecTV sounds like a great HTPC setup...

It's still an open question whether AVCHD (or other directory based structures) are even possible over DLNA. I have not yet heard of a working server + client example. If we could find a working example we could present it to OPPO and ask if the same thing could be supported in their players.

The decoder chip maker does not allow DVD directory or ISO support because of their association with piracy. I presume BR structures would be the same story, with the surprising exception of the AVCHD trick. AVHCD is a consumer format so it can be supported.

-Bill

Can someone provide a link or even a phone number where one can do this? I looked all over Amazon's help/support site including within their video downloading area and couldn't find anywhere that one could let them know or request such a thing.

FWIW, I experience ZERO stuttering while streaming native .m2ts files over a gigabit network with a ReadyNAS Duo (running Twonky) to the -93. The native DLNA software that shipped with the ReadyNAS occasionally stuttered and could not handle all combinations of HD video and audio codecs; for example VC-1 w/ DTS-MA was a total no-go while other rips would display the video portion but no audio, ect. Installing the Twonky add-on software solved all the issues.

My take away: there are two very important issues involved, the speed of the server hardware itself and the quality of the server software. Just having a "gigabit" network is not sufficient.

I would use a decent analog stereo pair for listening to CD. The Oppo Dac is probably better than the receiver's Dac. Oppo has a reputation for their audio performance, so why bypass it? I sold my tube Dac when I bought the Oppo as the Oppo was MUCH better.

At issue with the Bluraychip.dk kit is that they actually did nothing more than copy and paste the information from the BDP-83 DIY kit. Just a bit lame and lazy, IMHO. The two kits are not really comparable and Bluraychip.dk made things worse by still not including or posting real installation instructions. I knew installation was going to be more complex just by looking at the image they posted on the website but that still didn't show all the wires connected to the mod board or even the mini-board connected via the USB connector to the main mod board. The BDP-93 DIY kit is vastly more complex with far less intuitive installation than the BDP-83 kits. Without people having posted pictures of their installed kits I likely would have reversed 2 of the wires.

I expect the JVB Digital kit to be more complex than the previous BDP-83 kit, as well, but whether it will be the same or similar to the Bluraychip.dk kit remains to be seen. They still aren't posting an image of the kit on their website. I do, however, expect them to include installation information at the time of release.

A worthy plan, IF you're not using a digital AVR. Virtually all AVRs will convert stereo analog inputs for digital processing. Some allow an analog direct mode that avoids this, but not all "direct modes" avoid the conversion.

Are Oppo 93's DACs better than the DACs in HK AVR 745? I am considering buying the Oppo and wondering if I should hook the second HDMI out to the 745 or go analog. With analog I have the option of doing 7.1 since its HDMI only supports 5.1. But bass management and EQ might make a difference. I wonder if the 745 does EQ in the analog domain.

Currently I have a PS3 (gen1), a Panny BDT-300 (returnable within 2 weeks to Best Buy), a HK AVR 745 (have had it for 4 years), a HK AVR 7550HD (need to return asap for credit if I choose to). I find the 7550HD to be somewhat better than the 745. It has vast improvement in features such as number of HDMI inputs, HDMI 3D pass through, 1080p scaling, all the new lossless audio codecs, etc. It also has under the hood improvements to Logic7, EzSet/EQ, etc. But I don't care for 1080p scaling since I only have an iMac and BD player as sources. I also don't care about latest codecs as long as PCM 5.1 is supported. So, with all this into account, I am wondering if I should sell my gen1 PS3 (I hardly play games) and get the Oppo for BD and SACD. Wondering though if my money would be better spent on the receiver or the Oppo (the 7550HD would cost me a net of $800 if I sell off the 745. But I might be able to sell my PS3 for $250 (gen1). Still need to figure out if using analog out or HDMI out is better for audio.

It does not. Only a few very expensive AVRs allow any processing on the multi-channel analog inputs. Most people feel that the benefits of EQ, bass management and level matching far outweigh any small benefits from a better DAC. To put it another way: if analog direct sounds better via the M-ch analog inputs than HDMI with full processing - then something is pretty wrong with the setup and processing in the AVR.

Bluraychip.dk has finally posted the installation manual.

Refer here: http://www.bluraychip.dk/product.php?id_product=15. Click on the Download tab and then you'll see the manual which is a PDF.

After following the directions note the information at the end of the PDF:


And yes the old method of changing the Remote Code setting that worked with the BDP-83 kit also works with the BDP-93 kit. I just switched it on my BDP-93. I don't know why it wasn't included in the manual they posted. For whatever reason they love keeping this information a secret.

As PM'ed to me by JazzGuyy and posted by cbroegger:


I set the BDP-93 to Remote Code 2, changed the BDP-93 remote to Remote Code 2, and used my BDP-83 remote which uses Remote Code 1 to make the change and set the mod kit to respond to Remote Code 2. Works perfectly now with no worry of interaction between the two players if they were in the same room.

Au contraire, I have been working on spaceflight hardware since the mid-1960s, including SDIO programs. If anyone tried to deliver a piece of undocumented hardware with no installation or usage information, we would withhold payment until they delivered it. In the case of Blueraychip, they delivered a multi-part kit with no information and the website description was inaccurate. Even Ebay vendors selling replacement batteries for iPods and the like provide instructions.

Your comment about 'pliugging/unplugging some wires" is not strictly true, connectors mostly, not wires, and there was nothing to indicate what got plugged into where. The delivery was not on a psychic day, so I had to use another person's installation photo to figure it out.

According to a friend who also owns a BDP-93 with the latest firmware there are still issues with bitstreaming DTS-HD when dealing with Matroska containers. An example is The Crow. The picture will begin to stutter and then the player will freeze up. So, things are still unresolved in this department it would appear.

Actually the 745 is one of the few avr's that do full processing on Multi channel analog inputs. It digitizes them with using 96khz a/d. I tried it using the panasonic bdt300's 5.1 ch analog outputs. That said it is better to not do a/d and d/a unnecessarily.