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post #9661 of 25179
Can we honestly say we have a bona fide real deal crappy firmware update now?

Oppo? Por Favor.
post #9662 of 25179
Anyone with the handshake issue have u tried to turn your equipment on in the supposedly proper order? Tv on for a few then receiver for a few then source unit? Ill get mine tomorrow and will do the firmware update and see if i have any issues.
post #9663 of 25179
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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Anyone with the handshake issue have u tried to turn your equipment on in the supposedly proper order? Tv on for a few then receiver for a few then source unit? Ill get mine tomorrow and will do the firmware update and see if i have any issues.

Yes, I have my Harmony one set to start from off in the correct order. What about when your switching inputs to receiver? Going from cable box to Oppo, or from a "real" media streamer to the Oppo? The AVR is already on.
post #9664 of 25179
Well since the cable box is another source its fine if the receiver is on. If the tv and receiver are already on and already matched if you switch between bd or ps3 or cable box shouldnt have any problems.

Ill see if i have any issues when i get mine tomorrow probably not, ill get it on my lg once in a while at random times but its not consistent so we'll see what happens with the oppo.
post #9665 of 25179
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Originally Posted by Raker13 View Post

Can we honestly say we have a bona fide real deal crappy firmware update now?

Oppo? Por Favor.

Actually, this release seems to be doing quite well.

There don't appear to be any significant problems with commercial shiny disc playback. User created media playback does have some issues that carry over from the prior firmware -- but nothing new there. The music enthusiasts in the 95 thread are quite upbeat about how things are working for them for both shiny discs and user media. There's already an HDMI fix available from Oppo for the HDMI handshake repeats some Onkyo/Integra users have found. And I don't know of any Gotchas that would suggest people shouldn't update.

What issues are you having?
--Bob
post #9666 of 25179
Guys, after dicking around with a Denon DBP-1611, I decided enough was enough and sold it so I could get the BDP-93 which will be here Tuesday. I'll be using it for just movies for the time being. I have a Denon AVR-3808 and a JVC RS25 projector. Currently I have the player running an HDMI cable into the receiver and one going from the receiver to the projector. Since the Oppo has two HDMI outs, if I went straight from the player to the projector, would there be any significant increase in picture quality?
post #9667 of 25179
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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Anyone with the handshake issue have u tried to turn your equipment on in the supposedly proper order? Tv on for a few then receiver for a few then source unit? Ill get mine tomorrow and will do the firmware update and see if i have any issues.

I found that turning the devices on in order (TV > AVR > Oppo) works for me. If I have the system on and switch from Dish receiver to the Oppo 93, or if I switch from the Oppo 83 to the Oppo 93, I have a black screen with no audio.

To fix the problem, I just switch from the 93 to Dish and back several times. Eventually, the 93 connects and works fine until I switch away to another input.

Oppo 93 > Denon AVR-4311CI > Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD

I've emailed Oppo about this twice, but no response. Perhaps they went on vacation?
post #9668 of 25179
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Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff View Post

Guys, after dicking around with a Denon DBP-1611, I decided enough was enough and sold it so I could get the BDP-93 which will be here Tuesday. I'll be using it for just movies for the time being. I have a Denon AVR-3808 and a JVC RS25 projector. Currently I have the player running an HDMI cable into the receiver and one going from the receiver to the projector. Since the Oppo has two HDMI outs, if I went straight from the player to the projector, would there be any significant increase in picture quality?

There shouldn't be, but if relatively easy/possible I would run the dedicated HDMI. Your RS25 has two HDMI inputs thus leave the current run from your receiver and use the second for HDMI 1 from the OPPP.

I could of done either with my Yamaha/OPPO/RS15 setup yet went direct/dedicated to the PJ. Knock on wood yet I don't have any of the handshake issues most are frustrated with here.

Cheers
post #9669 of 25179
I'm also having handshake issues. I installed the latest firmware via network right after I set up the player, so I don't know if these issues are unique to this firmware or not.

Occasionally, playback will be interrupted by a brief flash or what almost appears to be static, and then it will go back to normal. I'm also having repeatable issues with specific titles. On the Disney WOW disc, the cropping pattern and several patterns after it cause my setup to lose sync completely when the 93's output resolution is set to 1080p or Auto. If I set it to Source Direct, everything works, but the test pattern shows that it crops 1 pixel at the bottom. Last night, I played Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows for the first time, and during the scene when the protectors take off from Harry's house, I get a repeatable jump. The player maintains sync, but several frames are skipped over. I rewound and reproduced it several times. Works fine on my PS3. I've seen similar repeatable jumps/skips on other titles (Inside Job most recently).

I have the Oppo hooked up to a Pioneer SC-27 receiver via HDMI, which passes it through to a Pioneer KRP-500M plasma. This same configuration works fine for my cable box, PS3, Popcorn Hour C-200, and previous BDP-83.
post #9670 of 25179
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Originally Posted by Tenkan View Post

I found that turning the devices on in order (TV > AVR > Oppo) works for me. If I have the system on and switch from Dish receiver to the Oppo 93, or if I switch from the Oppo 83 to the Oppo 93, I have a black screen with no audio.

To fix the problem, I just switch from the 93 to Dish and back several times. Eventually, the 93 connects and works fine until I switch away to another input.

Oppo 93 > Denon AVR-4311CI > Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD

I've emailed Oppo about this twice, but no response. Perhaps they went on vacation?

I am sure that there are different ways to get around the HDMI handshake issue. I have settled on the following turn on order: TV-->Oppo-->Denon 4311. Infrequently, in switching inputs via the 4311, the handshake issue arises with the Oppo, so the fastest way to get around this, for me, is to simply change the input via the 4311 and come back to the Oppo 93 which has yet to fail. So that this is a minor inconvenience that is tolerable.
post #9671 of 25179
As previously mentioned, for those having handshake issues, be sure the HDMI Controls are Off in each specific piece of equipment. Most times, this clears the problem, and you just need to manually turn on each unit. A universal remote helps that out!
post #9672 of 25179
Can you revert back to older FW on the 93? And can one get older versions? I'll be ordering soon and wanted to know the score in case I get one with the latest and there's a problem.

Looking forward to joining the members club
(finally deciding on the 93 over the 95 )

Thanks!
post #9673 of 25179
Well mine is on the truck for delivery so hopefully will be here soon. Might sit on the steps and wait haha. What a better day then a rainy day to install it though. From what i hear even at bestbuy (magnolia section) sometimes they get audio cut outs and black outs for a few secs. Seems like it might just be an hdmi issue with receivers. Doesnt bother me much.
post #9674 of 25179
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

Can you revert back to older FW on the 93? And can one get older versions? I'll be ordering soon and wanted to know the score in case I get one with the latest and there's a problem.

Looking forward to joining the members club
(finally deciding on the 93 over the 95 )

Thanks!

You can not. This is a restriction imposed by the 3rd party services (e.g., Netflix).
--Bob
post #9675 of 25179
Anxiously awaiting my 93. On the Fed Ex delivery truck as I write. Can't wait to get it up an running.

I'm using an Integra 9.8. Anyone know of any handshake issue with this piece of equipment?

Thanks,
Jeff
post #9676 of 25179
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

You can not. This is a restriction imposed by the 3rd party services (e.g., Netflix).
--Bob

Bob

Thanks for the info. This is not surprising since can't revert on other mfg players. Since Oppo seems to have so much versatility, I was hoping for an exception.
post #9677 of 25179
Well my LG you can revert back to as far as a fw from a year ago.
post #9678 of 25179
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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Anyone with the handshake issue have u tried to turn your equipment on in the supposedly proper order? Tv on for a few then receiver for a few then source unit? Ill get mine tomorrow and will do the firmware update and see if i have any issues.

I turn my gear on in any order I want. Works fine any way I do it.

Yes I have the latest firmware.

A little logic here, if the firmware is bad, it should be bad for all players.
post #9679 of 25179
Its weird seems like it works for some people but not others. It all depends what tv and receiver you have, seems like pioneer and onkyo have handshake issues. Prob cuz its not high end 1000$ + receivers.
post #9680 of 25179
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Originally Posted by ayrton View Post

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A little logic here, if the firmware is bad, it should be bad for all players.

That absolutely not true.
post #9681 of 25179
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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Its weird seems like it works for some people but not others. It all depends what tv and receiver you have, seems like pioneer and onkyo have handshake issues. Prob cuz its not high end 1000$ + receivers.

Mine is high end and I had handshake issues with latest firmware (all the prior versions worked fine). However, I was sent a fix so no problems any longer.
post #9682 of 25179
Hi everyone, I'm having trouble constructing a search on this thread that gets any hits, so I will ask and apologize if this has been answered:

Is there any way to get the Oppo to default to the highest bit rate soundtrack on Blu-Rays? Some titles like The Dark Knight have both a lossy and lossless DD soundtrack. It's also one of the rare discs that goes right into the movie, not a menu. Every player I've owned always starts TDK playing with lossy Dolby Digital track and not the TrueHD track. I remember back in the day some DVD players had a setting to default to the highest bit rate track.

Thanks!
post #9683 of 25179
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Originally Posted by CarloM View Post

Hi everyone, I'm having trouble constructing a search on this thread that gets any hits, so I will ask and apologize if this has been answered:

Is there any way to get the Oppo to default to the highest bit rate soundtrack on Blu-Rays? Some titles like The Dark Knight have both a lossy and lossless DD soundtrack. It's also one of the rare discs that goes right into the movie, not a menu. Every player I've owned always starts TDK playing with lossy Dolby Digital track and not the TrueHD track. I remember back in the day some DVD players had a setting to default to the highest bit rate track.

Thanks!

No, the disc authoring controls the default choices.
--Bob
post #9684 of 25179
I am not an owner yet. Have been saving to get a 93. What's the deal with the handshake issues? Has it been fixed as some report? I would have a hard time with the wife factor IF I spent 500 bucks and she had drop outs while watching a movie....
post #9685 of 25179
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

I am not an owner yet. Have been saving to get a 93. What's the deal with the handshake issues? Has it been fixed as some report? I would have a hard time with the wife factor IF I spent 500 bucks and she had drop outs while watching a movie....

It is an issue with some AVRs. Direct connection directly to the display is not usually an issue.

In the past OPPO has had to address specific AVR models with firmware adjustments and I suspect we will see the same thing again. Already people are reporting good results with test firmware.

-Bill
post #9686 of 25179
Thanks for the reply. As it is now for 3D I have my PS3 direct to TV for video and audio digital out. My Denon 3808 is HDMI 1.3. Works for what its worth. Would be using the dual hdmi out anyway, video to MIT 65 inch RPTV and audio hdmi to the Denon to restore HD Audio on 3D disk.
post #9687 of 25179
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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Its weird seems like it works for some people but not others. It all depends what tv and receiver you have, seems like pioneer and onkyo have handshake issues. Prob cuz its not high end 1000$ + receivers.

I have a Pioneer Elite SC-37 & a Pioneer Kuro & have no handshake problems & I'm running the lastest firmware.

I talked to Oppo a couple of days ago & they said this player is recommended to run with 36 bit to off position.

You might try that. Also make sure your TV & the Oppo is set to 4:4:4 color mode.
post #9688 of 25179
I've had my 93 for two months. The video out is connected directly into my Epson 8350 projector and it has worked flawlessly from day one with all the updates as time marches on. Only the audio goes to the AVR. Wow, what a great picture! Highly recommended, for sure.

So, sounds like turning everything on in the correct sequence could/should fix the handshake.
post #9689 of 25179
Well mine hasn't shown up yet which sucks they usually tend to show up right around 5pm those lazy bums haha. Ill play with the settings when i get mine, gonna set it to 1080p and audio to bitstream and see what else i can do.

Idk how to set my tv to 4:4:4 but ill play with that too and see what i come up with.
post #9690 of 25179
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Originally Posted by StevensAV View Post

I've had my 93 for two months. The video out is connected directly into my Epson 8350 projector and it has worked flawlessly from day one with all the updates as time marches on. Only the audio goes to the AVR. Wow, what a great picture! Highly recommended, for sure.

So, sounds like turning everything on in the correct sequence could/should fix the handshake.

Good to read you're getting what you expect.

Let's cut to the quick. There are hdmi handshake issues. The handshake issues are a result of the last firmware update. A lot of people are reporting as such. You may not be getting them, but I am.

Oppo has to recognize by now that some of us are reporting handshake issues assoc with the last update.

I am not running old or unusual equipment.

Oppo BDP 93 to Onkyo NR-3008 (over $1000 if that matters) to Samsung LN46 B750 LCD TV.

My cables are quality and have been checked repeatedly. My set up is fine. Again, this problem has reared it's ugly head with the last update.

Now, again, I have to write Oppo pleading for a fix.

Yeesh.
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