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post #1951 of 2086
"The Dayton Audio OMDVD Test DVD is the essential complement to the OmniMic V2 measurement system by Dayton Audio for fine-tuning home theater and multichannel audio systems."

$20 extra for an "essential complement"? That's just a slap in the face.

I see no reason to purchase an Omnimic over REW and a calibrated USB mic. That little move just sealed the deal.
post #1952 of 2086
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Originally Posted by sdrucker View Post

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Originally Posted by jkasanic View Post

^^^^I compared measurements in the latest version of REW with my OM mic (before returning it) to my UMM-6 (2 different measurement sessions so another variable).  HST, the only "significant" difference I measured was the increased noise floor of the UMM-6 over the OM mic.  Another member in the REW USB mic thread (kbarnes701) still has his OM kit and I'm sure could provide some measurements if requested.

Refresh my memory: was that the CSL calibrated UMM-6 at 90 degrees? I've also got the UMM-6 from CSL, but haven't had the time to test it wirh REW yet due to Real Life.

Re the OM, as I was using it in the past year, I'll probably pick up the DVD for kicks, as I'd like to see how the individual channels are testable compared to the two channel output that REW natively supports. As I have powered Mythos ST mains and CS-8080 HD center + two ULS-15 subs, I wish I could capture the whole picture to gauge bass/mid bass, but it's debatable if that's appropriate in REW.

 

We've been over this several times in the REW thread and I believe the general consensus of those more in the know on acoustical measurements related to home theaters is that little or no value should be placed on measuring the interaction of the surrounds (provided the basics have already been covered i.e. trims, xovers etc.).

post #1953 of 2086
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

"The Dayton Audio OMDVD Test DVD is the essential complement to the OmniMic V2 measurement system by Dayton Audio for fine-tuning home theater and multichannel audio systems."

$20 extra for an "essential complement"? That's just a slap in the face.

I see no reason to purchase an Omnimic over REW and a calibrated USB mic. That little move just sealed the deal.

Looks like my timing was about right on the Umm-6 then huh? lol
post #1954 of 2086
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Originally Posted by jkasanic View Post

We've been over this several times in the REW thread and I believe the general consensus of those more in the know on acoustical measurements related to home theaters is that little or no value should be placed on measuring the interaction of the surrounds (provided the basics have already been covered i.e. trims, xovers etc.).

I'm aware of that from a few of the thought leaders....however, I was thinking (hoping?) that powered speakers were a special case in the approximately 80 to 200 Hz region. For any serious/published graph data I want peer reviewed, I'm sticking to their concensus. It's not a horse I want to beat.

One thing: I was able to get my REW setup to work on HDMI outputs fairly easily, getting all eight channels to show up after enabling HDMI audio through my laptop's Geoforce card that controlled HDMI. So I can do the individual channels as we've been discussing. And I even have DisplayPort connecting to HDMI on my external monitor display with an adaptor. So it's probably time to let go of OM, even if the DVD has finally come out frown.gif.
Edited by sdrucker - 2/20/13 at 3:15pm
post #1955 of 2086
^^^^C'mon over to the Dark Side!!
post #1956 of 2086
Basically what i use is the menu in the Reciever and stereo OM test tones to get individual measurements.

What else does this disc cover, hopefully more than above?

To not have the disc for download is unusual, and also not have at a lower price at least, i still think it should be for free to owners of OM.

Does this mean that future software update downloads there is going to be a charge?
post #1957 of 2086
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^^^^C'mon over to the Dark Side!!

I already have over that past year...Pioneer/MCACC to Denon/Audyssey XT32 & then Pro cool.gif

As for OM vs REW, I'm about 90% there as it is Just that last push.,.,
post #1958 of 2086
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

"The Dayton Audio OMDVD Test DVD is the essential complement to the OmniMic V2 measurement system by Dayton Audio for fine-tuning home theater and multichannel audio systems."

$20 extra for an "essential complement"? That's just a slap in the face.

I see no reason to purchase an Omnimic over REW and a calibrated USB mic. That little move just sealed the deal.

 I paid $28.87 USD through PayPal (And have not received it yet)

post #1959 of 2086
Anyone know if the 5.1 DVD will also work with the Omnimic V1? All the product description details makes reference to the current V2, so I am thinking it implies that it is only compatible with V2. I purchased my Omnimic in Feb 2012, and am looking to confirm if the 5.1 disc is even a viable option.
post #1960 of 2086
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Originally Posted by paulmcj View Post

Anyone know if the 5.1 DVD will also work with the Omnimic V1? All the product description details makes reference to the current V2, so I am thinking it implies that it is only compatible with V2. I purchased my Omnimic in Feb 2012, and am looking to confirm if the 5.1 disc is even a viable option.

From Dayton:
"The DVD hasn't been tested with version 1 of the OmniMic hardware or software, but it should still work, because until now there haven't been any changes to the way the software analyzes test signals."

Post 10:
http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?236125-New-multichannel-DVD-test-disc-introduced!

James
post #1961 of 2086
The DVD will work fine with v1 OMs, the only differences between v1 and v2 are mechanical and usb connector types.

The tones on the DVD are the same as on the CD, except there's one for each of the 6 channels and several extra track types such as delays (sweeps on any channel simultaneously with the L channel to see offsets in impulse response peak times) and 1kHz test tones.

I don't know why PE is asking for proof of purchase before allowing download of the software, since it won't do measurements without the particular mic... not my decision, but check the OmniMic forum on the TechTalk website, there's a link to the version 4 there.

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?232723-Early-OM-v4-software-download-for-forum-readers

Bill
post #1962 of 2086
What makes the DVD Price more ridiculous is the fact if you live overseas you have to buy over $50 worth of stuff plus postage to even get it.
There should be an option to download the product and burn it on your own DVD if it is the only product you want to buy
post #1963 of 2086
You might email them and suggest that.

BTW, Dayton Audio owns the dvd, not me. I only made a quick demo to find how it might be done (and provided audio tracks), the guys at Dayton did all the graphics and development and production work.
post #1964 of 2086
(delete duplicate post )
Edited by bwaslo - 2/22/13 at 12:37pm
post #1965 of 2086
How about using the pre/pro's test signals with a suitable correction for their difference in results compared to OM's, which also gives you all of the channels you have.

Maybe the correction could be done with a suitably modified 2nd mic cal file.
post #1966 of 2086
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Originally Posted by bwaslo View Post

You might email them and suggest that.

BTW, Dayton Audio owns the dvd, not me. I only made a quick demo to find how it might be done (and provided audio tracks), the guys at Dayton did all the graphics and development and production work.

Received an answer from Dayton..find a supplier near where you live or just pay the shipping .
Oh well ...if you live overseas forget the DVD or be prepared to pay a fortune for shipping ...

Why can't they provide a download service?
post #1967 of 2086
Hi can someone please tell me which in the SPL/Spectrum tab the setting/s for Flat Weighting?

Thanks in advance
post #1968 of 2086
hey guys, just setting up a new laptop and i have a question. when doing a config on the mic i have, it calls for numbers and letters..... my mic is all numbers, no letters. my mic did go in for repair, it had a 60hz hum that was fixed a few years ago.... thanx
post #1969 of 2086
KG,

Have you used the mic (and software) since it was changed to all numbers for the SN?

edit:
Actually since you have an all number mic you will need to load the calibration file for that mic and do not need to do the “code” stuff.

edit edit:
OmniMic is extremely simple to use. You can be up and making measurements in minutes.

Plug the OmniMic into the USB port of your Windows computer.

If you are using OmniMic for the first time on this computer, select "Mic ID" from the menu at the top, then enter the 6 character calibration code provided for your individual version 1 OmniMic; or load the calibration file for your version 2 Omnimic, after downloading it from the Dayton Audio website. (If your mic has a serial number without letters then it uses a file). If your computer is connected to the internet, the Omnimic software can download the file itself.



James
post #1970 of 2086
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Originally Posted by exojam View Post

KG,

Have you used the mic (and software) since it was changed to all numbers for the SN?

edit:
Actually since you have an all number mic you will need to load the calibration file for that mic and do not need to do the “code” stuff.

James

yup, i did that before but its loaded on a laptop thats no longer alive, it died with all my other stuff. where do i get these files and how to proceed with loading them
post #1971 of 2086
It appears the new software will download the cal file for you. I would install the latest software (if you are not already doing this). Then, according to Dayton it will download the cal file for you. It now appears you can download the latest software straight from Dayton (about half way down the page).

http://www.daytonaudio.com/index.php/test-measurement/omnimic-v2-precision-measurement-system.html

James
post #1972 of 2086
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Originally Posted by exojam View Post

It appears the new software will download the cal file for you. I would install the latest software (if you are not already doing this). Then, according to Dayton it will download the cal file for you. It now appears you can download the latest software straight from Dayton (about half way down the page).

http://www.daytonaudio.com/index.php/test-measurement/omnimic-v2-precision-measurement-system.html

James

ok, so i found the file by entering the mic code. i saved it in my documents, now i guess i have to import it, but i cant seem to get to the file from the config mic section
post #1973 of 2086
Silly question but do you have the bullet in the "FILE cal" option?

James

Capture.PNG 10k .PNG file
post #1974 of 2086
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Originally Posted by exojam View Post

Silly question but do you have the bullet in the "FILE cal" option?

James

Capture.PNG 10k .PNG file

ummmmm whats a bullet ? sorry
post #1975 of 2086
Did you select the option as I showed in the screen shot?

James
post #1976 of 2086
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Originally Posted by exojam View Post

Did you select the option as I showed in the screen shot?

James

i've never seen that window, where did you find that ?
post #1977 of 2086
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Originally Posted by kgveteran View Post

i've never seen that window, where did you find that ?

config - mic id

James
post #1978 of 2086
My config doesnt look like that, its full of drop down boxes

ok, i had to update the version of OmniMic first, its been a while.... that was easy, thank you....
Edited by kgveteran - 3/10/13 at 2:53pm
post #1979 of 2086
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Originally Posted by kgveteran View Post

My config doesnt look like that, its full of drop down boxes

ok, i had to update the version of OmniMic first, its been a while.... that was easy, thank you....

NP, glad you got it working.

James
post #1980 of 2086
Please can someone advise on the procedure for measuring just the Speaker (not the Room) from 500hz - 20,000hz.

Thanks in advance
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