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post #31 of 415
12/10/10 at 4:50pm
The best looking GH2 test I have seen so far IMHO:
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post #32 of 415
12/10/10 at 5:17pm
Despite some instances of mud (You Tube probably), a very sweet video! Jogiba, any idea what lens was used for this or what settings?

Paulo, what's your status on your GH2 arrival?
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post #33 of 415
12/10/10 at 5:18pm
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That's also on Vimeo with over 23,000 views.
http://vimeo.com/14725884
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post #34 of 415
12/10/10 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Despite some instances of mud (You Tube probably), a very sweet video! Jogiba, any idea what lens was used for this or what settings?

Paulo, what's your status on your GH2 arrival?

On the original Vimeo posting he posted:
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With Panasonic Lumix GH2
Mostly with 14-140 lens. The 7-14 Lumix lens in the cave.

http://vimeo.com/14725884

Bruce Dale also posted:
Yes, it is a GH2 camera. I was testing a pre-production model and they are not available yet.
I shot at 24P in what they call “cinema mode”. Usually I shot in shutter priority mode setting the shutter speed at 1/50th of a second. I let the aperture change automatically and let the ISO change automatically if necessary. Often I had it in manual mode such as the scene going under the bridge in the boat or driving along the coast with the sun flashing behind the trees. There are two clips looking toward the rear of the speeding boat. The first was shot at 1/800th second and the next clip is 1/50th of a second. (These comments refer to the Michigan pictures).
Regarding recording time: Basically it is only limited by the size of the SD card. It changes depending on whether you are shooting 24p, 50i, PAL, or NTSC, etc. But in Europe, for legal reasons, because the camera shoots to HD specifications a special tax is required. Therefore, in Europe, it is limited to 30 minutes. I think the U.S. versions can go much longer. Yes, strange.
Some people are experiencing bad stuttering. I think this is caused by low internet speeds or inadequate graphics cards. Full HD is really pushing computer systems.
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post #35 of 415
12/10/10 at 5:47pm
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I've pre-ordered from the same local authorised retailer that I got the GH1 from and I'm told it might be late this month. I pre-ordered in the middle of November so I might be in their second shipment. I pre-ordered the body only but I haven't put any money down.

Last year in July when I finally decided to order a GH1, I called up a local authorised retailer to see if they had any in stock and to my surprised, they responded that there is one left. I could not believe what was hearing and told him that I'm going to have to call back and think hard about this. On the one hand loosing that money will hurt me a bit but on the other hand, who's to say I'm not going to make that money back with video and photo gigs? so I called back and told him I'm going to take a trip to the store and buy it. This is also during the time I wanted to buy the HMC40 but the price of the GH1 was already hurting me a lot and the HMC40 wasn't out yet.

Still, I'm going tomorrow to buy a new lens cleaner since mine apparently got missing for no apparent reason. I'll ask them on the status. There is also an event that I'm going to record tomorrow in which I would have loved to use the GH2. Even better if I had a TM700!
Here's the event in case someone's wondering:
http://www.ssrunners.org/ssrun/gallery.asp

It remind me of this event that I recorded.
http://vimeo.com/10662171
http://vimeo.com/10662174

For sure I want to also get the TM700 but I'm going to see how much I can sell my hack-able GH1 first. If I can get $600 for it, that would be great. $700 even better but I'm not going to allow my expectations to be too high and be disappointed that I didn't meet my goal. I do have a project in which I want to use the GH2 and TM700. I also have access to an HVX200A and might be able to have access to a Canon 5D Mark II. I would definitely want to see how creative I can be with all those cameras.
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post #36 of 415
12/10/10 at 6:41pm
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It seams like the demand for the f/0.95 lens is a bit too overwhelming.
http://cameraquest.com/voigt_m43.htm

The same thing happened to the Panasonic 20mm lens.
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post #37 of 415
12/11/10 at 9:52am
I was tempted to order from Henry's Camera in Canada as I did with my GH1, but decided against it. With the GH1 we were headed to Alaska and I needed the GH1 ASAP. I can afford to wait for the GH2 and not pay the premium and shipping to the U.S.

But I'm itching to get this beauty after seeing some of the posted clips.

BTW, that 'Summer Morning' clip shows how good the 14-140 lens can be despite some people knocking it.
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post #38 of 415
12/12/10 at 1:30am
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post
Despite some instances of mud (You Tube probably), a very sweet video! Jogiba, any idea what lens was used for this or what settings?

Paulo, what's your status on your GH2 arrival?
What do call mud Ken
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post #39 of 415
12/12/10 at 4:22am
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Originally Posted by flintyplus

What do call mud Ken
It's a kind of blurring of details in certain areas of the frame. Instead of an area of the picture having detail (such as an area in the shade in a couple of the videos), it looks as if you put a blur filter over that area, obscuring the details. You might not even notice it if you're not looking at that part of the frame.

It's important to note that unless you've downloaded the original file, you can't be sure if it's the camera or the encoding of the hosting website. Whatever it is, the overall quality coming from the GH2 looks to be significantly better than any DSLR's video I've ever seen.
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post #40 of 415
12/12/10 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

It's a kind of blurring of details in certain areas of the frame. Instead of an area of the picture having detail (such as an area in the shade in a couple of the videos), it looks as if you put a blur filter over that area, obscuring the details. You might not even notice it if you're not looking at that part of the frame.

It's important to note that unless you've downloaded the original file, you can't be sure if it's the camera or the encoding of the hosting website. Whatever it is, the overall quality coming from the GH2 looks to be significantly better than any DSLR's video I've ever seen.

Ok fine, this canon DSLR film looks good to me though.
http://www.vimeo.com/14945627
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post #41 of 415
12/12/10 at 12:14pm
http://vimeo.com/17731215

Look at what Philip Bloom says @4:44.


Home Cooking...avec le GH2!
http://vimeo.com/17062701
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post #42 of 415
12/13/10 at 3:37am
How is this camera compared to a dedicated digital video cam? What dedicated digital cameras are most comparable to the GH2 or even the GH13? I'm liking the fact that the video quality is impeccable for it being able to take exceptional stills as well. Usually you do not get two for one, but it seems like this thing is rivalling some more spendy dedicated digi-video cams and at the same time, though no FF cam, is still far better than a point and shoot with the wonderfully compact size to boot!

On a final note, many have shown/proved the kit lenses do exceptionally well, especially for video, but what is the general experience around here regarding fixed lenses like the 20mm or even a pick your choice of many older fixed lenses that can be adapted onto these cams compared to the kit zooms or even the 14-140mm which seems highly versatile.


Thanks for the input, especially with respect to what specific dedicated video cameras the GH2 or even GH13 are able to at least equal or even best.
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post #43 of 415
12/13/10 at 5:36am
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Just as we said about the GH1, if you're looking for high-definition video in a DSLR-like format, then the Panasonic GH2 is your best choice. Canon and Nikon may have recently made significant strides with their 2010 DLSR models, but they can't compete with the GH2. The ability to continuously auto-focus during recording is faster on the GH2 than on Nikon's cameras, with Canon lagging even further behind, and the sheer quality is visibly better than the GH2's main rivals. The EX Tele Convertor mode is the icing on the cake, allowing you to record Full HD footage with less scaling or image processing required, again resulting in great looking video.

http://www.photographyblog.com/revie...ew/conclusion/
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post #44 of 415
12/13/10 at 5:45am
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Originally Posted by audioexcels View Post


On a final note, many have shown/proved the kit lenses do exceptionally well, especially for video, but what is the general experience around here regarding fixed lenses like the 20mm

I absolutely LOVE the 20mm Lumix lens.
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post #45 of 415
12/13/10 at 5:49am
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Originally Posted by audioexcels View Post

How is this camera compared to a dedicated digital video cam? What dedicated digital cameras are most comparable to the GH2 or even the GH13? I'm liking the fact that the video quality is impeccable for it being able to take exceptional stills as well. Usually you do not get two for one, but it seems like this thing is rivalling some more spendy dedicated digi-video cams and at the same time, though no FF cam, is still far better than a point and shoot with the wonderfully compact size to boot!

On a final note, many have shown/proved the kit lenses do exceptionally well, especially for video, but what is the general experience around here regarding fixed lenses like the 20mm or even a pick your choice of many older fixed lenses that can be adapted onto these cams compared to the kit zooms or even the 14-140mm which seems highly versatile.


Thanks for the input, especially with respect to what specific dedicated video cameras the GH2 or even GH13 are able to at least equal or even best.

The new Panasonic AG-AF101 uses the same lenses as the GH1/GH2 and has the same size 4/3rds sensor.





Short film done with GH2 and 20mm F1.7 Pancake lens @3200iso :


Voigtlander 25mm F0.95 Micro Four Thirds lens
For Panasonic GF2 GF1 GH1 GH2:
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post #46 of 415
12/13/10 at 8:24am
HOT TIP! As of 11:20 EST, the Panasonic website is now showing the GH2 body available for order.

I just ordered the silver.
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post #47 of 415
12/13/10 at 11:43am
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Did you get a tracking number?


I saved money to grab it from anywhere incase something like this happens but for some reason, I'm still trying to use my dealer. I know that by the time I change my mind, Panasonic direct will run out. Funny how this will allow people to literally cut in line if they're really shipping.

I told myself not too worry to much because I know how hectic it was for a lot of people a year and a half ago for the GH1 so this is totally expected of Panasonic. They can't keep their top cameras in stock when it first comes out and the top cameras and camcorders aren't ever on display at major retailers such as Best Buy for people to play with.

Hopefully their supply issues are about to be over seeing how it look like you can buy it again from Panasonic direct. It happened before but for only a short time. It looks like Panasonic obviously want to make the most money possible by selling a huge supply themselves rather than have the retailers help them out.
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post #48 of 415
12/13/10 at 11:55am
Panasonic Direct is a disaster, I ordered the GH2 body on Dec 1st and have called about seven times and each time they say it was shipped but then say there are no GH2 bodies in stock.

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After waiting on hold for over 1.5 hours on the speaker phone in my office the verdict is that the PD website its not updated and that the 1-3 day shipping its corrects but it means that it will be effective after PD receives the shippent of GH2 which is on January 3 so 1-3 days from that date. So everyone who ordered the GH2 through PD on Dec 1st will not be able to see their GH2 until the first or second week of January. All they did say is that they do apologize for the website being misleading. That's exactly what they told me, but they have proven to be very inconsistent, so believe what you want.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread...-orders/page54
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post #49 of 415
12/13/10 at 12:34pm
The only thing that makes me believe it will come in sooner is the fact that this is the first time I've seen these bodies available from PD.

I don't have a tracking # yet, but I wouldn't expect it at this point having just ordered it this morning.
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post #50 of 415
12/13/10 at 1:21pm
Update: I called again and finally talked to a supervisor that told me they have released my order to a California warehouse and it will ship this week.
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post #51 of 415
12/14/10 at 5:06am
Thanks for the post regarding the video quality of this fine looking camera. I have an order in for one as well. Not sure what to expect timeframe wise so we'll see.

A few quick questions:

1) What are the best lenses for this camera, Nokton aside since that one carries a tremendous bill at this time? I liked the idea of the Leica 14-50mm, but do not like what another poster said about the slow and inaccurate focussing.


2) How important is having an IS based lens vs. old manual type primes or even Olympus 4/3 glass? Seems to me that the IS would be obviously helpful for handheld work, but at the same time, wouldn't it subtract a bit if doing tripod based work and even careful handheld work? I'm just used to IS doing a fantastic job with stills when handheld in lowlight or with shakey hands, but with video, I'm curious if it excels better than manual and handheld work using non-IS based lenses?

3) Any thoughts as to how this cam might get hacked like the GH1 and how it could theoretically be improved on if hacked by the guy that did the GH1 hack?


Thanks again and great thread to have around here as this has to be the only product I have cared to pick up for our extensive trip to Europe since I'm still shoot with sheet film and my wife's point and shoot, and though the video alone has sold me, it's also nice to have a fast and better quality digital cam to carry along with us since I'm not bringing my LF rig w/fear it will get stolen or who knows with 2 months at hand...I may well bring it and leave it at the relatives and shoot more locally with it while taking the digi around Europe and of course shooting locally as well. I sure hope the cam gets here for my trip down to N. Cali from the upper Oregon coast!
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post #52 of 415
12/14/10 at 6:21am
Since I already have the Panasonic TM700 3MOS 1080p60 camcorder with great Leica F1.5 12x IS power zoom lens I don't feel any pressure to get IS zooms for the GH2 . I have lenses from 6.5mm to 2350mm so I have ordered two PK-m4/3rds adapters to use with them and one having an aperture ring for Pentax DA lenses. My Opteka F3.5 6.5mm, Tamron F3.5/4.5 10-24mm zoom and Sigma F2.8 15mm should be able to be used handheld on the GH2 along with my 18-55mm @18mm. For low light I plan on using my 50mm F1.4 and 85mm F1.4 and plan on getting the 25mm F0.95. The GH2 should work even better than my Canon SX30 IS with Opteka Xgrip for low angle shots since it will be used with ultra wide angle lenses like the 6.5mm that has 13mm 35mm eqiv FOV on the GH2. I will use my Bogen 475/501 tripod/head combo for the longer FL lenses like my Pentax 67 165mm F2.8 and larger.


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post #53 of 415
12/14/10 at 6:48am
[quote=jogiba;19645389]Since I already have the Panasonic TM700 3MOS 1080p60 camcorder with great Leica F1.5 12x IS power zoom lens I don't feel any pressure to get IS zooms for the GH2 . I have lenses from 6.5mm to 2350mm so I have ordered two PK-m4/3rds adapters to use with them and one having an aperture ring for Pentax DA lenses. My Opteka F3.5 6.5mm, Tamron F3.5/4.5 10-24mm zoom and Sigma F2.8 15mm should be able to be used handheld on the GH2 along with my 18-55mm @18mm. For low light I plan on using my 50mm F1.4 and 85mm F1.4 and plan on getting the 25mm F0.95. The GH2 should work even better than my Canon SX30 IS with Opteka Xgrip for low angle shots since it will be used with ultra wide angle lenses like the 6.5mm that has 13mm 35mm eqiv FOV on the GH2. I will use my Bogen 475/501 tripod/head combo for the longer FL lenses like my Pentax 67 165mm F2.8 and larger.



Wow do you collect stamps as well,seriously whats the 2350 one, that would equal 3760 on my canon, i could watch the martions with that.
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post #54 of 415
12/15/10 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by jogiba View Post

Since I already have the Panasonic TM700 3MOS 1080p60 camcorder with great Leica F1.5 12x IS power zoom lens I don't feel any pressure to get IS zooms for the GH2 . I have lenses from 6.5mm to 2350mm so I have ordered two PK-m4/3rds adapters to use with them and one having an aperture ring for Pentax DA lenses. My Opteka F3.5 6.5mm, Tamron F3.5/4.5 10-24mm zoom and Sigma F2.8 15mm should be able to be used handheld on the GH2 along with my 18-55mm @18mm. For low light I plan on using my 50mm F1.4 and 85mm F1.4 and plan on getting the 25mm F0.95. The GH2 should work even better than my Canon SX30 IS with Opteka Xgrip for low angle shots since it will be used with ultra wide angle lenses like the 6.5mm that has 13mm 35mm eqiv FOV on the GH2. I will use my Bogen 475/501 tripod/head combo for the longer FL lenses like my Pentax 67 165mm F2.8 and larger.



Wow do you collect stamps as well,seriously whats the 2350 one, that would equal 3760 on my canon, i could watch the martions with that.









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post #55 of 415
12/15/10 at 6:30pm
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Mixing that telescopic lens with the GH2's tele crop mode is really a lethal combination.

For even better picture quality, there's the Canon 1200mm lens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF_1200mm_lens
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post #56 of 415
12/16/10 at 5:27am
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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

Mixing that telescopic lens with the GH2's tele crop mode is really a lethal combination.

For even better picture quality, there's the Canon 1200mm lens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF_1200mm_lens

B&H sold the 1200mm F5.6 for $120,000.00.
http://posterous.rickbucich.com/1200...f56-at-bh-sold

Zeiss has a 1700mm F4.0
http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/13/c...elephoto-lens/


BTW my UPS Tracking for my GH2 body from PD EPP shows this :
12/16/2010 5:21 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
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post #57 of 415
12/16/10 at 10:51am
I just got off the phone with Panasonic Direct and they indicated my GH2 is sitting on the dock waiting to go out today. So hopefully I'll have it by mid-week.
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post #58 of 415
12/16/10 at 2:18pm
UPS delivered my GH2 today so here is my first test with 50mm F1.4 Pentax FA lens @F4 in 1080p24 mode and auto ISO.


Vimeo:
http://vimeo.com/17899410
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post #59 of 415
12/16/10 at 6:14pm
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post #60 of 415
12/16/10 at 6:46pm
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UPS delivered my GH2 today so here is my first test with 50mm F1.4 Pentax FA lens @F4 in 1080p24 mode and auto ISO.


Vimeo:
http://vimeo.com/17899410

Not at the computer jogba to play it, but what's your take on the GH2 so far?
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