Ysp 2200 - Page 15

unix, happy for the fact that you managed to name the hdmi inputs....but what about the SOUND quality of this thing?

I haven't run it through it's course yet, but, so far I am quite pleased with the sound quality. We've only been watching content from TV - I need to load up a BluRay & test it out this weekend.

BTW - I've solved the issue with it switching to the "TV source" at poweron, seems some TV's talk over the HDMI connection, and, will 'talk' various commands, mine seems to tell the YSP to poweroff when the TV is powered off, and, to switch to TV input when powered on (although it doesn't actually tell the YSP to poweron). Disabling the HDMI Control feature in the YSP turns off this capability.

Yamaha online support was quite responsive when I posted that question to them:

Hi guys, thanks for all the great info! I want to simplify my home theater setup with a sound bar, but my room layout isn't ideal. I was hoping the YSP2200's auto IntelliBeam system might help.

My living room is small, 12' x 12'. The TV is in a corner, flanked by two walls with large open entranceways, and the couch is along the pseudo-opposite wall (so not directly parallel with the tv). There's also a bay window in the mix. Here's the floor plan:



Am I completely crazy to think I could get a full-ish sound field in this room? Does the IntelliBeam thingamajig offer any hope?

Thanks!

If that is the TV mount in the corner, little chance of any real surround effect. You should get a nice broad soundstage. Intellibeam can't do wonders, but for best results you should set up the microphone in multiple locations.

Many times with a corner type setup, the cleanest sound would be to set up as 3.1 instead of 5.1 or 7.1. Less chance of interference or crosstalk and the sound is actually cleaner. However, many people like the interference and crosstalk as it gives a somewhat blended sound.

I have almost the same living room , no surround after setup , just finished read all the post , going to manually adjust the rear

hi there just want to clarify few things on what looks like a great product.

1. can this be used with a projector and my av receiver?ie i choose my sources there and use one hdmi out to the YSP and then it will send video signal to the projector .am i understanding it right?
2.. is it going to be a problem that i am trying to mount this on top of my projector screen so at least 4ft above my seating position. can i specify height in the set up?
3. can you use longer wire as the sub woofer needs to be under my bed?
4. the yamaha bracket does not work - this one needs me to build a shelf ?
5. or should i just pay up for the wireless model 4100?

Hi all,

just got the ysp2200 and I am starting the config etc..

I have:

ps3 -> hdmi -> ysp hdmi input
cable tv box -> hdmi -> ysp hdmi input
bluray player -> hdmi -> ysp hdmi input

YSP-2200 output (arc) -> hdmi -> samsung d8000 arc input (hdmi 2)

All hdmi cables are not necessarily 1.4 as far as I know.

Now my question is - is this the right way to hook it all up in my case? The problem is that I cannot see menus of the YSP on the Samsung d8000 screen. I thought I would be able to see this without needing component cable (yellow cable that came with the ysp), as there is no unique video in on the samsung d8000 (just one that is bundled with other inputs using proprietary samsung input dongle thingy that slots into d8000) and I am using hdmi 2 as the source on the tv. I'm really stumped on this. If I was to make the component work, does that mean every time I use the menus on the ysp I would have to switch from hdmi to component? Should all work with hdmi cables surely?

Bit arcane all that, hope someone understands what I am on about! I wouldn't have known what I was on about before opening the box tonight.

thanks

Ah never mind, read the full manual and the post by Danbyx (completely agree with his views btw) and it will be ok, I am on the right track, just need to sort out the component/tv wrangle, which shouldn't happen but it's not the end of the galaxy.

Hi!
I'm an italian user and I would want buy this soundbar. My room is 6 mt x 4 mt.
I have the heading position in the center of the room (3 mt from the left wall and 1 mt from the right wall).
The position of soundar will be distance 1 mt from the left wall and 3 mt from the right wall. I will be 3 mt from soundbar and 3 mt from 2 biggest windows behind me (no wall behind me). It produces a really dolby sound?
I'll connect Myskyhd (hdmi+optical cable) and Xbox (only hdmi or I must connect other optical cable too?) hdmi in and hdmi out at the Panasonic 55VT30. Is it perfect for me or not?
Sorry for my english...

I've been using a Sony HT-CT100 for a few years, and I just got a new Samsung 55" D8000 TV, so I figured a new soundbar was in order. I prefer soundbars to separates; I just like the "continuous" soundfield effect.

I bought the YSP-2200 about a week ago, after much research on this forum and reading reviews. I was considering the 4100/5100, but I decided to try the 2200 based on its supposedly newer technology. I also considered the B&W Panorama, but price and the fact that it didn't have HDMI inputs turned me off.

Initially, I have to admit, I was underwhelmed. I did Auto setup a couple of times, and while it yielded consistent results, I just didn't get the surround effect that I was expecting. I do have 3 walls, with a partially open wall on the right that goes into the kitchen, so I realize that I don't have a perfect room for a YSP.

Tonight, I read the manual thoroughly, and decided to try Manual setup. I went through every setting, but the one that made the biggest difference (by far) was the beam angle adjustments for each channel. I closed my eyes and tried to "place" each "speaker" in the proper position.

I then put on my favorite surround test scene, the launch scene from Apollo 13.

WOW.

Completely different experience than before. I can't believe I waited this long to do the manual setup. Tomorrow night, I'm going to try fine-tuning my room measurements and some of the other settings.

Moral of the story: if you have a less-than-perfect room, don't just do the Auto setup with the YSP-2200. (or probably any other YSP) Take some time and do the Manual setup; it is like night and day with this unit.

Hope this helps some of you out there...

Is anyone using this sound bar with a harmony remote? I am wondering if there are discrete input codes (hdmi1, hdmi2, etc) versus cycling through the 3hdmi inputs as it appears you would have to do on the original remote.

I am. A Harmony 880. And, yes, there are discrete IR codes for all inputs. Works great.

I spent some time last night with a measuring tape, a calculator, and some trigonometry so that I could do the entire manual setup in the YSP-2200. Took me a couple of hours, but I eventually got it.

Even better than before. My only complaint is that the "sweet spot" is kind of small, but I may be able to extend that at the cost of some surround precision.

This morning, I was playing around with some of the surround effects while listening to music. I am a purist when it comes to music, and I didn't buy the YSP for this purpose. Stereo output of this unit really isn't that great, and I don't usually like surround effects for music.

However, I put on some Diana Krall and tried the "Jazz Club" effect. I have to admit, it really sounded fantastic. Extremely deep soundstage; it really felt like sitting in a dark jazz club right next to the stage! I'm very impressed...

Thanks for the confirmation

Has anybody tried a different sub with the ysp2200. I was impressed with the sound from the bar and disappointed with the sub, very wimpy and no low end below 40hz.

After making my HTPC(XBMC) output 7.1 sound the sub is much better and i'm very pleased.

Hi- first posting to this site- just a quick question- I am in the UK and have the YSP-2200 but might be relocating to the USA- could I bring it with me and plug it into UK/USA adaptor? Or as it is a fixed cable, stick an American plug on the end? Of course it might be cheaper to sell mine in the UK and buy one once I am in the states rather than ship it out! Anyway many thanks for any help/advice offered

Just hope someone can help as about 75% of the posts on this thread seem to be about news of when it was being launched, the cheapest deals to buy it etc. and then very little on actually owning and living with it

If no one here can 100% for sure answer your question, email Yamaha,,,,,, their CS dept is most of the time pretty good.

Cheers
Davyo

Bought the ysp-2200 about a month ago, and I'm very pleased with it.

Was hoping for a reality check though re sub performance - it doesn't quite seem able to handle some challenging bass elements.

I could name a few movie scenes, but consider whenever a "star destroyer" goes by the screen in various episodes of the Star Wars complete blu-ray set. I find that this long, deep, bass consistently causes the YSP's sub to "belch" for lack of a better term. It just can't seem to handle it. (Now, why there's sound in space at all is another question.) BTW, decoder is DTS HD MA.

My take is that it is completely normal for the sub to choke in these segments, as it simply can't support that lower range, as per the specs.

Just to confirm though, anyone else notice similar issues on the very low end? Any chance of a problem specific to my setup and/or unit?

I agree that the bass from the subwoofer can be "rough" at times, for want of a better word- but I am not sure of a "belch" I am currently watching on a weekly basis the Star Wars films on blu-ray with my young daughter- I will listen out for the star destoyers.

When there are big impacts, jumps to hyper space etc, it really throws out a big sound- I feel sorry for my neighbours as I frantically reach for the remote!

Have you tried adjusting the LFE Level? Currently, I have it set to "-13" and have had no problems. I remember, however, when it was set to "0" (which may be the default) the subwoofer was producing sounds similar to what you are describing. After adjusting the LFE, I've had nothing to complain about with the sub.

Thanks for the great advice Menta. The LFE indeed defaults to zero, and it clearly affects the sound I described.

As a consistent test point, I used The Empire Strikes Back blu-ray, via DTS HD MA. At the very start of chapter 11, a star destroyer comes into frame from the top right of the screen.

The demand on the sub is evident right away, with a distinct belch* about 1/3 into the ship's movement in the scene, and various bass struggles throughout.

I found that with an LFE setting of -8, the problem is minimized without affecting lower tones for the rest of the movie.

In any event, thanks again for the advice. It still suggests the sub isn't quite up to the job, but I dont' think that's a surprise. In addition, the effects track of the Star Wars collection seems to be especially demanding. However, I'm happy with the overall sound with the reduced LFE setting.


*By "belch", I mean a bass tone/sound that doesn't match what the scene on screen is trying to depict. Instead of a specific low tone, it is more garbled, or wobbly. Hard to describe, but just sounds "wrong".

phlegm2,

Glad I could help.

I've been traveling but finally got a chance to pop in Empire on BD last night. I agree, the film certainly pushes the sub to its limit.

On a side note, adjusting the LFE won't have any effect on the bass in the midrange level. It only modifies the ".1" channel of the audio track. If you're trying to find the right balance between the LFE channel and midrange bass, don't forget the Sub volume control in addition to the LFE Level. As I mentioned earlier, I have the LFE fairly low but the sub volume is a bit high relative to the other channels.

i have a chance to buy this unit @ 629 new not B stock from major online retailer.i just need a little push is this a good value?

Not really. I got one from a major online retailer for $550 shipped. I told 'em I'd heard people had been buying them for around $500. He put me on hold for a few minutes, came back and said $550 was the best he could do. That was the number I had in mind anyways, so I pulled the trigger.

when did you buy yours?i did beat em a little more and got it for 599.i was concerned since this unit won What Hifi product o the year in the U.K. that there might be a rush on them the last thing i wanted to do was pay more.i would have felt very good at 550 so i am only good at 6

I ordered it on 2/17, exactly a week ago today.

I just picked up one of these as well after reading and doing some research for the last few weeks. It seems like a good value for what you get in a soundbar. I have never had a soundbar, so this should be interesting. We have the media room setup downstairs in the basement and I am really not expecting much.

The place I demoed the unit couldn't have been more dismal. An optical link from a sharp tv with the only setting changed was the subwoofer set at +10.0....

Barnes & Nobel.com has the ysp2200 for $569+shipping+tax. Total Cost =$614.
(New - not B stock).
I was just looking at this at Crutchfield, and getting ready to purchase for $800. So I am very pleased.
(Their return policy is 14 days, and they will pay for return shipping).

Did you pair it with another sub? is it possible to pair with another sub?

No, but after changing the settings in XBMC to output the correct audio, i now love this soundbar. I also noticed a big difference in the bass once i took the sub of the floor and put it in my new TV stand centered about 24" up on a shelf.

What i would like to know is the sub stops at around 40hz producing sound, but is that because of the sub or amp in the sound bar? My reason for saying this is it would be easy to make a sub the would go lower like 20hz, but don't want to go through the trouble if the amp is a limiting factor.