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post #31 of 44
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Initial impressions: Not impressed at all.

I now see texture where before it was smooth. It's like a slight 'haze'. Very visible on a solid white background.

Ambient light: Still have to go Dynamic w/ the lights on.

Blacks: Still not inky black.

Off to tweak the 8350
post #32 of 44
OH Crud! What happened? you have just scared the living daylights out of me.

I thought you were all set? Could your settings really be that off?
post #33 of 44
Thread Starter 
I bumped by color saturation up to about 10-12 in Cinema mode, that right there REALLY helped w/ color 'pop'

Here are my quick Cinema mode settings:
Brightness -1
Contrast -5
Color Saturation 12
Tint 0
Sharpness Standard
Color Temp 6500k
Skin Tone 0
Power consumption ECO
Auto Iris Off
Gama 2.4

I watched "SALT" w/ Angelina Jolie w/ these settings. VERY movie like. I'm happy. Blacks are still a bit gray however.

During 98% of the movie, you really think you're at a theater. Very very very good. However if there is a bright and constant sold image (cloud or white van for instance), and I let my critical mind focus on it, you can see the 'sparkle'. It's not really a sparkle , it's just a.. I dunno what it is. It seems to effect one area of the screen. I look off to the far right and it's not there. It follows where I sit. I guess this is just the beast of a 'gain' screen? .

My expectations where very high. This is good to great. I'm hoping w/ the curing of the paint and additional tweaking, it'll be amazing.

Jury is still out.
post #34 of 44
now that we are off topic...


Why are you not trying Art's calibration settings?

I don't think I am nearly as picky as you are, but I'm still a bit scared now...
post #35 of 44
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newB24 View Post

Why are you not trying Art's calibration settings?

I was running Art's. Didn't do it for me.

It's weird, the current Cinema settings work for me if I watch a movie. But here as I'm typing on the Projector in Windows in a forum, it looks WAY too dark and grey to me. Not bright enough nor white enough. Also playing Xbox 360, I go back to torch Living Room mode. Oh well.
post #36 of 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike 01hawk View Post

I was running Art's. Didn't do it for me.

It's weird, the current Cinema settings work for me if I watch a movie. But here as I'm typing on the Projector in Windows in a forum, it looks WAY too dark and grey to me. Not bright enough nor white enough. Also playing Xbox 360, I go back to torch Living Room mode. Oh well.

After one views the 8350 in Natural (IMO the best) or Living Room modes, Cinema WILL seem quite attenuated. That is because those settings are intended to emphasize black levels and that does not happen unless the light output of the PJ is attenuated.

In any case, one must allow the paint to cure for at least 1-2 weeks before it will truly harden and be it's most reflective.
post #37 of 44
Now that you guys have done all that work, I would hate to suggest a cheaper and easier way to get a better screen than SS. Sorry just found this thread today.

I would really like to see how my screen paint holds up against the famous MM.
If you guys do want to try it out, even on a test panel and let us know the results that would be awesome.

My mixture consists of only 3 ingredients and no need to spray because of the quality of paint.....I get a very smooth finish with a 5mm high end roller.

Ingredients:
1 quart - Benjamin Moore Aura - Sidewalk Grey (2133-60) in a matte finish.
1/3 quart - Chemcraft Acryllak Semi-Gloss Polyurethane (423-9550)
6oz. bottle - Modern Masters Sheer Pearl White (ME196)

Apply 2 coats onto any paintable surface with a 5mm roller, even onto bare drywall - no priming needed.
The Aura is such an amazing paint, it actually goes on like an oil product. You can apply your 2nd coat after 1 hour and you're done!
You will not see any roller marks, even from the most novice painter - the paint is that forgiving.

If you want to spray it you would have to dilute to your desired consistency that you are already using.

This paint is a simple DIY screen that I spent alot of time working on and it has outperformed some very expensive screen paints that you can buy on the market. It has also outperformed expensive name brand Theater Screens.
I have done screens up to 200" with amazing results.

Happy Painting
post #38 of 44
Hey steele006 can we get some pics of your screen in action? I love simplicity but if I'm gonna try it I wanna make sure it's better than MM's mix. Thanks.
post #39 of 44
to the OP, i know this is an old thread, but after calibrating/curing, do you have any final feedback/impressions/screenshots?

considering RS-MM-?? myself (in a separate thread, getting advice from MM etc), and any user feedback would be much appreciated
post #40 of 44
so you used a piece of canvas and paint with these paint? where did you get these?
post #41 of 44
Thread Starter 
OP here, canvas was sourced from some place online. It was ~$20 shipped. I've long forgotten the details. Search my name, I might have posted it on here before.

As for final thoughts. It has gain, but I'm not 100% satisfied. I may dabble with another formula or get a newer projector. Dunno. I'm really anal. Don't get me wrong, it looks great, but I want moar biggrin.gif

And some final pics of my entire Home Theater redo biggrin.gif

A rundown of what all was done:
Removed the crown molding (it was installed by a drunken cross eyed midget), had new drywall mud / texture added in
Several outlet / intercom holes patched. There was an outlet below the screen (YES, I'm THAT anal)
Removed a ceiling vent that was 'in line of site' between projector and screen (YES, I'm THAT anal)
All drywall had a once over for gouges, wrinkles, whatever
Ran HDMI/Coax/Ethernet thru outer wall to attic to run to projector, a DIY OTA antenna I made, and my home network
Ran a new outlet in the attic so I could have projector power cord out of sight out of mind
Installed a new ceiling fan
Changed my single gang to double gang which required a new romex run. This allows me to turn the fan blades/light on independent of each other. Lights also have a dimmer. BALLER AS ALL HELL!!!
Changed out brass hardware with nickel (I hate brass with the intensity of a thousand suns!)
Several several coats of new paint on the ceiling/walls. A nice cream/dark green from Behr (Cottage white / moss green)

Onto the pics:

Crappy ass crown molding caulk job
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Barf
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Two tone paint? WTF?
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This was how the projector was wired for over 2 years frown.gif Yeah, power and video just dangling for the world to see, sigh.
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Lets RIP!
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Ho boy what have I got myself into?
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Drywall is FUN! All those blobs, the nails were working their way out of the studs. So my drywall guy pounded em back in, used screws, and mudded over everything. God bless my drywall guy.
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Prime time! 18 man hours priming (3 people painting)
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Walls/ceiling done. 25 man hours (3 people painting)
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Double gang DONE. This one was a dirty little whore. Note to self: 2 single gangs DO NOT EQUAL a double gang...trollololol.
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Sexy new fan with dim-able lights
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Ignore the dust. Truck bed liner is a bitch to get clean
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Oh yeah baby, keystone jacks FTW
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Mmmmm
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Power/HDMI to the ceiling
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No more ceiling vent, lol
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Woot. Lovely new nickel hardware.
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Edited by mike 01hawk - 10/8/12 at 11:01pm
post #42 of 44
Thread Starter 
And some behind the scenes pics:

Wire splice to...
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Put in a new outlet
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Me capping off the vent (there's aluminum tape and a proper cap under all that duck tape, lol)
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A walkway I spent way to much time making cause I was tired of crawling on my hands and knees painfully on 2 inch joists and fiberglass
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post #43 of 44
Looking great! That attic looks like mine! I can totally relate about spending way too much time up there... it has to be worth it someday though, right?! Fantastic work. Looks like a place you'll enjoy!
post #44 of 44
Great work.

How big is that screen?

Why not paint the white ceiling while you're at it?
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