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post #301 of 368
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Originally Posted by audiovideoholic View Post

Not to curse you but I hope all the cuts and angles dont cause them to destroy all your painted trim and nice walls!!!

My install was BAD! The columns were beat and scratched all to hell and most of my walls were too. Although the backing on your carpet doesnt look really rough.

I hope so too! It's not like I can just paint over any scratches either on the trim. I told them if the wallpaper is damaged, they'll be paying to have it replaced.

Wife just texted and said they are still there. Two guys since 8:30 this morning. She did say that it looks great and she hasn't seen any issues with damage.
post #302 of 368
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I hope so too! It's not like I can just paint over any scratches either on the trim. I told them if the wallpaper is damaged, they'll be paying to have it replaced.

Wife just texted and said they are still there. Two guys since 8:30 this morning. She did say that it looks great and she hasn't seen any issues with damage.

Thats good to hear. Atleast you made it a point about the wallpaper. That trim is gotta be giving them hell though! I mean all their tools are metal and kneeing them right up against it is just an accident waiting to happen.

I've had some really good installers thoughout the years with my rental properties and some really bad ones. The good ones would rather the trim be in place and could care less about messing up what has already been painted. But then there are those that just have no business stetching a rubberband more less carpet.

I've been following your thread for a while and really like what you have done with the look! It isnt an easy feat to make a classy yet modern/elegant theater and then throw in all the extra tedious work that it entails. Its just not easy to pull off by any means!
post #303 of 368
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Carpet Installed

Well, it took two men from 8:30 until 5:00 to install. They said they had no idea the room was this involved. They were supposed to do another job at noon and had to cancel it! All they had on their work order was a 20x30 room. Nothing about steps, transitions, angles, etc.

That being said, it turned out great and they did a wonderful install job. No damage of note. Only some scuffs on the corners of the some of the baseboard where the carpet slid down it as it was installed. So I was very happy.

I got in there tonight and worked on some electrical items in the cabinetry and the outlets in the risers for the seating.

Here are some pics...











post #304 of 368
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Originally Posted by audiovideoholic View Post

I've been following your thread for a while and really like what you have done with the look! It isnt an easy feat to make a classy yet modern/elegant theater and then throw in all the extra tedious work that it entails. Its just not easy to pull off by any means!

Thanks AVH! I can't tell you how many hours the wife and I poured over samples of wallpaper, paint, carpet, etc. At least we are pretty much on the same page when it comes to design and what we like. So far so good on everything.

I'll be starting on that screen wall before long, but want to finish off the PJ box first to get that all cleaned up. Hopefully, I can come up with a good design of the screen wall to allow me to get most of the panels up and then work on assembling one very large 4-way automated masking system which I already have all the parts for. When others say, "it never done", they're right!
post #305 of 368
Fantastic.
post #306 of 368
Great work.
post #307 of 368
Absolutely STUNNING! One can really appreciate the vision and planning that you guys had as it all comes together. So close now - must feel great... : )

Bryan
post #308 of 368
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Thanks for all the compliments guys! Much appreciated! It's good to know not only that someone out there is watching, but also likes the job!

Heard from the cabinet maker today that the granite countertops are coming tomorrow (Friday) and they'll finish off the cabinets (some trim items). Can't wait to see how that all looks.

Tackled one of those tedious "to do" items - the PJ hush box door and trim. I decided to build a frame out of decorative wood, and attach a 1/2" MDF panel to it with a piano hinge. To cover the seams between the panel and the frame, I added a finish piece of trim. All I have to do now is to install a couple of 1/8" pins to hold it in place securely, plus add a safety chain just to make sure it doesn't swing open accidentally and bang someone in the head! Then fill the nail holes and joints (the one in the pics spread on me a bit sliding it over the opening.

Here's some pics of it. I plan to paint it the same black/blue of the soffit around it. I'll lose some of the detail of the molding, but I don't want it to stand out and look like a door!













post #309 of 368
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Seats Finally Unboxed and in the Theater!

















post #310 of 368
GET THOSE DOGS OUTTA MY CHAIR!!!

Seriously great work. Looks like the countertops have been installed as well. Love seeing it all come together!
post #311 of 368
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GET THOSE DOGS OUTTA MY CHAIR!!!

Seriously great work. Looks like the countertops have been installed as well. Love seeing it all come together!

Thanks! Yes the tips are in now. Just news to post some more pics!
post #312 of 368
What brand are your seats?
post #313 of 368
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Originally Posted by audiovideoholic View Post

What brand are your seats?

Pretty sure they are Fusion Escapes that are sold by Roman. You can see the thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1371239
post #314 of 368
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Pretty sure they are Fusion Escapes that are sold by Roman. You can see the thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1371239

That's correct, Fusion Escapes in Expresso Brown leather from Roman. So far, everyone that has sat in them have loved them.
post #315 of 368
.......wow.....

So now that the room is no longer "empty box" it will be eagerly awaited, the re-calibration of the sound and the first "serious" screen shots.
post #316 of 368
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Countertops In

Well... they've been in since last Friday, and as someone already noted, they were already captured in a picture with the seats. Finally got around to taking a few shots.

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post #317 of 368
Perfect color selection on the countertops. They really look nice with that carpet and the wall coverings.
post #318 of 368
Really really well done countertops and cabinets - congratulations...almost there!
post #319 of 368
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Front Row Seating Specs

I received a few PMs on the specs of the front row and thought I'd post the answers here in case someone else is thinking about Roman's Fusion Escapes. My front row is a curved configuration with individual chairs (i.e. no love seat(s)) - |0|0|0|0|. My rear row is a curved configuration with two individual chairs on the ends and a love seat in the middle |0|00|0|.

Questions:

1) Did you build the riser to match the curvature of the backs of the seats?

No, on both rows. I really was considering it, but ultimately decided against it. I think it would look great, but I didn't want to have an issue down the road when I might change the seating and then it doesn't fit. So I went with the straight edge with the idea that if I didn't like it, I would make either wood or carpet covered wood inserts to close off the space and make it look more custom. If I ever changed the seats, I just change out the panels. I haven't been in the room enough to get a feel yet, but at first take it doesn't bother me at all. Here's a pic of the back of the front row.

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2) What is the width of the aisle and are you comfortable with it?

Well, the width depends on where you are measuring from. Take a look at the pic below:

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As you can see, the arm of the last chair angles in with the curve and my wall angles away. The width of the opening at the top of the riser for the step is only 25". Narrow yes, but keep in mind that the area above the arm of the chair opens up for 6-7". The front of the papered wall to the closest edge of the arm is 26-1/2", so to the closest edge of the back of the chair is ~ 34". The front corner of the chair to the painted wall is 41-1/2".

As for how I like it, I was really concerned before the seats went in even though I made all sorts of measurements to assure me it would be okay. Now that they're in, I can say it's perfect ALTHOUGH I wouldn't go any narrower than what I have. It does help that my wall falls away as well, but even if it didn't, the fact that the chair opens up the width would make it work well enough.

3) What is your finished room width?

In between the front of the wallpapered walls (the narrowest part of the room), it's 16' 5-1/2"

In between the painted wall sections, it's 17' 7"

4) Can you give me the curvature specs for the front row if I wanted to build my riser to match it?

The measurements are for the front curved row with individual seats. At the center of the row is an armrest, so that goes flush against and parallel to the riser edge. That armrest is 11" wide and would be centered in the middle of your seating area, and I assume the center of your room. The next measurements are always coming from the corner (NOT THE CENTER) of this armrest. The measurements are also straight out from the center armrest and not the distance of each angle. You can cut it in a complete curve, but it's really three straight sections to match the backs of the seats. Use the pictures below as a reference, and I'm showing the left side of the row.

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Back of Seat 2

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Back of Seat 1

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post #320 of 368
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Perfect color selection on the countertops. They really look nice with that carpet and the wall coverings.

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Originally Posted by AirBenji View Post

Really really well done countertops and cabinets - congratulations...almost there!

Thanks! When everything comes together, it's a great feeling and a relief!

I have to get in there when all is done with my better camera and take some pics that do it justice.
post #321 of 368
Thanks for posting all of the chair measurements. That is a HUGE help.

Your room is really coming along. Just when I think the theaters on AVS can't get any better, they do.

Nick
post #322 of 368
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Behringer EP2000 Fan Replacement

If you have a Behringer EP-series amp, well... you know all too well how loud those fans are. Now, imagine having nine of them come on at the same time! Sounds like a jet getting ready to take-off.

I've been putting this off for some time now, mostly because I have to remove them all from the rack. So, last night, I finally pulled out 7 of the 9 and replaced the fans. Still two more to do!

I purchased the new fans based on the recommendations from those who have come before me in this endeavor. I got 10 of them from Digikey, having one extra in case I ever need it. The fan used by others was P9739-ND, and that's what I've used here. It's been discontinued and now Digikey suggests P14751-ND.

The difference in sound is night and day! Huge difference. Now my dual Middle Atlantic rack fans (used to draw the hot air up from the front of the racks when the doors are closed) are what I hear.

Below is the step-by-step on the fan mod in case anyone needs it. Sorry for some of the fuzzy pics, but you get the point.

Of course - TURN OFF THE UNIT AND DISCONNECT THE POWER CORD FIRST!

1) Top Bolts (4) - Remove the four bolts with lock washers from the top of the unit.

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2) Left Side Bolts (4) - Remove the four bolts on the left side.

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3) Right Side Bolts (4) - Remove the four bolts on the right side.

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4) Rear Bolts (5) - Remove the five bolts at the top of the back of the unit.

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5) Remove Cover - Now lift on the back of the cover and tilt it forward. There are tabs at the front of the cover that need to be slid out of the front of the amp.

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6) Remove Fan Bolts (4) and Screen - Remove the four long bolts that secure the fan screen and the fan itself.

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7) Remove the Fan Shroud - Lift out the fan shroud from the front of the fan. It actually secures the fan in place with the four long bolts removed in step 6.

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8) Remove the Fan - Lift out the fan.

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9) Cut the Fan's Power Lead - Cut the power lead coming from the fan to the control board. I cut this about 1.5" from the fan to allow enough lead to work with on the other side.

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10) Prep Lead - Remove about 3/4" of the casing on the power lead coming from the control board to expose the red and black conductors.

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11) Splice Connections - I used the splice connectors below and they worked great. Connect the fan leads to the control board lead.

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12) Position Fan & Shroud - Position the fan so that it pulls air into the amp. For me, this was having the sticker side of the fan face in. Make sure you are not pinching any wires. Place the shroud back in place and make sure you are not pinching wires.

13) Mount Fan & GROUND - There is a ground wire that goes between the fan and the shroud at the upper-left corner (looking from the back of the amp) of the fan. Don't forget to connect that. Mount the fan in with the four long bolts removed in step 6. Make sure all wires are neat inside.

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14) Replace Cover - Align the tabs of the cover into the slots on the front of the amp. You have to tilt the cover to do this. The cover goes on the outside of the sides and inside the back.

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15) Test Fan - With the cover in place, connect the power cord and turn on the amp to make sure the fan is working properly. When satisfied, turn off and disconnect the power.

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16) Replace the Cover Bolts - Install the bolts removed in step 1 (top), then 2 (side), then 3 (side), then 4 (rear).

17) You're Done! - Enjoy!
Edited by RedTopDown - 6/13/12 at 8:17am
post #323 of 368
Hooray...........

That's a pretty simple modification, made all the more easier by virtue of your pictorial and written instructions. Really inexpensive too...that Fan is less than $9.00 and the connectors only $3 something.

I was wondering how loud all those EP2000's were with the Closet Door closed....but what with your most recent observation (aural naturally) that issue is of course not moot.

I have the same Mod to effect myself (only 1 thank goodness0 but with several more in store in the near future, so the above is a blessing.

Sooooo..........when's the Big Event?
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Hooray...........
That's a pretty simple modification, made all the more easier by virtue of your pictorial and written instructions. Really inexpensive too...that Fan is less than $9.00 and the connectors only $3 something.
I was wondering how loud all those EP2000's were with the Closet Door closed....but what with your most recent observation (aural naturally) that issue is of course not moot.
I have the same Mod to effect myself (only 1 thank goodness0 but with several more in store in the near future, so the above is a blessing.
Sooooo..........when's the Big Event?

With unsealed solid-core 1-1/2" doors it wasn't bad, but noticeable. Now I just hear a slight hum and I think all that will go away when I put some seals on the doors. Most of that hum is the large MA dual fans I mentioned.

Well, the kids have been in there watching, but I haven't yet. Too busy and still see so many odds and ends to work on. Big item is, of course, the screen wall and the masking system.
post #325 of 368
RedTopDown,

Your room is looking great! Can not wait to see the finished product....biggrin.gif

Cheers,

Jim
post #326 of 368
Just read through this whole thread. You, and MM of course, have done a fantastic job. DIY at it's finest. Very nice work.
post #327 of 368
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Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK View Post

Just read through this whole thread. You, and MM of course, have done a fantastic job. DIY at it's finest. Very nice work.

Thanks for lumping me in with RTD, but comparatively speaking, I'm pretty low on the procedural Totem Pole. redface.gif

Yeah, at the onset, I contributed some input as to the overall design, the Audio, and the Screen, but a look at what has transpired since speaks volumes (...as much as in the NY Met Library!)
RTD has accomplished a good 90% of everything seen with his own hands, and a dose of initiative that few on AVS have ever aspired to. Shoot...just the Trim alone is staggering in it's accomplishment.

Absolutely, I'll take some credit when the first lucky souls get a finished slice of this wholesome Pie, and their Eyes roll back, Jaws drop, and the water flows. (eek.gif !!! Not on the Chairs & Carpet ! ) But it will be with great humility because RTD is deserving of the really effusive praise, and all due Credit for making it all come true.

This cool.gif is for you, RTD!
post #328 of 368
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Originally Posted by trek737 View Post

RedTopDown,
Your room is looking great! Can not wait to see the finished product....biggrin.gif
Cheers,
Jim

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Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK View Post

Just read through this whole thread. You, and MM of course, have done a fantastic job. DIY at it's finest. Very nice work.

Thanks guys. It's been a long time coming and can't wait to have it all finished. The wife sees it as just a few more things. I see all the little things that will take a long time to do right. But at least I'm at the point of creating a punch-list!

Thanks again.
post #329 of 368
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Thanks for lumping me in with RTD, but comparatively speaking, I'm pretty low on the procedural Totem Pole. redface.gif
Yeah, at the onset, I contributed some input as to the overall design, the Audio, and the Screen, but a look at what has transpired since speaks volumes (...as much as in the NY Met Library!)
RTD has accomplished a good 90% of everything seen with his own hands, and a dose of initiative that few on AVS have ever aspired to. Shoot...just the Trim alone is staggering in it's accomplishment.
Absolutely, I'll take some credit when the first lucky souls get a finished slice of this wholesome Pie, and their Eyes roll back, Jaws drop, and the water flows. (eek.gif !!! Not on the Chairs & Carpet ! ) But it will be with great humility because RTD is deserving of the really effusive praise, and all due Credit for making it all come true.
This cool.gif is for you, RTD!

As you can see/read, MM is modest in taking praise. He was extremely helpful in the early stages of guiding the overall design, that was of course changed a dozen times by me! If you've read the thread, you certainly know that he was instrumental in the audio and screen plan and it's assembly. I can't wait to get it calibrated and finished in order to fully appreciate it!

I will say this, I finally starting to like the room again. For the last few months I hated walking in there. The project was just too long and the detail was extremely time consuming. I don't even want to think what it would have cost to pay someone to do it, or if I would have gone the traditional audio and screen route. The simple answer is that I wouldn't have room like this.

There's a lot left to do, but I'm at the punch-list phase. The remote automation will take some time, as well as the screen wall, fabric panels, and then the 4-way masking system I have in my head. The next two months are very busy for work and my kids, so my time will be limited. But I'll be sure to keep you posted!

Thanks again MM, for all your work and help. If anyone is looking for a recommendation for assistance, look no further.
post #330 of 368
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Behringer EP2000 Fan Replacement
If you have a Behringer EP-series amp, well...

I do, and really appreciate this mod! Fan has been ordered...

Bryan
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