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post #241 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Netsrac1967 View Post

Also, does Media Center Master really work better than the XBMC scrapper?

Thanks

MCM can
-> Automatically rename and sort your movie/TV show collection
-> Stores local metadata
-> Brings down a better/more comprehensive synopsis than the XBMC scrapper
-> You can edit metadata manually if you don`t like a specific poster or backdrop or things like that

It`s not mandatory, but it`s a great addition to a HTPC.
post #242 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

MCM can
-> Automatically rename and sort your movie/TV show collection
-> Stores local metadata
-> Brings down a better/more comprehensive synopsis than the XBMC scrapper
-> You can edit metadata manually if you don`t like a specific poster or backdrop or things like that

It`s not mandatory, but it`s a great addition to a HTPC.

I tried it out yesterday, not sure if I like it yet.

One thing I did when I started putting my movies on my WHS was create folders based on type of movie. I mean my action folder has more than 100 movies in it without individual folders, some sub-folders for movie series aka Die Hard has a folder in Action with all its movies in it.

I did it like this, as I am using WD Live media streamer throughout my house and it is the easiest way to navigate movies.

Now since I redid my avr room I am getting a dedicated HTPC for it, while still keeping all my movies on my WHS.

I found out yesterday that XBMC does not need each individual movie to have it own folder which is great for me, except I already converted 25% of my collection into folders.(I found a script to do it easily)

Also the XBMC scrapper can be changed (But I do believe that you said the default scrapper on XBMC is not as good)

XBMC can change backdrop posters and covers.

I do like the trailer download of MCM, but XBMC sees it a movie being in the same folder. ( I know I can download trailers through XBMC, but I believe it stores them in a data file)

Anyways I am new to HTPC interfaces, I have been using WD-Live for the past few years.
post #243 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Netsrac1967 View Post

I tried it out yesterday, not sure if I like it yet.

One thing I did when I started putting my movies on my WHS was create folders based on type of movie. I mean my action folder has more than 100 movies in it without individual folders, some sub-folders for movie series aka Die Hard has a folder in Action with all its movies in it.

I did it like this, as I am using WD Live media streamer throughout my house and it is the easiest way to navigate movies.

Now since I redid my avr room I am getting a dedicated HTPC for it, while still keeping all my movies on my WHS.

I found out yesterday that XBMC does not need each individual movie to have it own folder which is great for me, except I already converted 25% of my collection into folders.(I found a script to do it easily)

Also the XBMC scrapper can be changed (But I do believe that you said the default scrapper on XBMC is not as good)

XBMC can change backdrop posters and covers.

I do like the trailer download of MCM, but XBMC sees it a movie being in the same folder. ( I know I can download trailers through XBMC, but I believe it stores them in a data file)

Anyways I am new to HTPC interfaces, I have been using WD-Live for the past few years.

No, XBMC doesn`t require you to have separate folders, but i prefer having separate folders in my library with each poster saved inside it because it`s easier to find a movie when i`m on my laptop (i can usually recognize a movie by the folder thumbnail (which is the poster basically) faster than by searching by names. I have good visual memory).

Yes, the XBMC scrappers can be changed, but the "themoviedb", the main scrapper, is probably the best one out there for movie info. For ex the imdb scrapper doesn`t have backdrops and has low res posters.
MCM uses the same site for downloading info, i.e. themoviedb but it downloads a longer synopsis. The XBMC devs probably cut down the lenght of the info pulled to minimize the scraping duration.

If you have a WHS, you can run MCM on it, configured as in this guide, so it automatically scans your library and organizes it and downloads metadata, and renames files and folder to the proper movie names, and puts each movie in its separate folder with the metadata, keeping your library nice and clean.

As far as trailers are concerned, i have no clue, but i`ll look into it.
post #244 of 3139
Update : The XBMC Netflix guide is almost finished, i`m going to get some sleep and then post it. After that, i`ll finish toying around with the Movies by genre/type organization guide using the Aeon MQ menu creation options, both should be up today (i.e next 10 hours, after i wake up)

Oh, and last but not least, seb, the XBMC DSPlayer developer is back, he finished his exams, and a new official version of DS Player should be up in the next week.
post #245 of 3139
Ah, and last bot not least, a new EPG is coming to XBMC, based on the next aired script.



http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=85109

It`s going to take some time before all the skin developers incorporate it, but the code for the addon itself is almost finished.
post #246 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Use Media Center Master as set up in the guide to scrape local metadata. This way, you will have 1500x1000 resolution posters and 1080p backdrops. Aeon MQ supports 1080p backdrops.

I have multiple backdrops for most of my movies.

Can XBMC rotate them ?

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Originally Posted by takagari View Post

okay after registering and walking away for 2 hours I came back and it was fetching. So dunno Guess it's automated?

edit:
also added the aeon installer. downloading now


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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

News : Aeon MQ 2.6 has been released. It includes a new look, and a new way to download the skin, via the Aeon addon repository, which also means updates will come automatically now via the auto-updater in XBMC. http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=81601

News 2 : A new build of DS Player is comming up shortly, since the previous one that Steel linked had a small bug (OSD now showing up when you press pause during a movie). Not a deal breaker, but i preffered to wait for the new build before i re-include it into the guide.


Seems a little laggy when doing things. Has anyone seen this ?

Does it have Blu Ray Case wraps for the posters ?
post #247 of 3139
OK, so I am coming from the original XBMC on Xbox.... I always used File View for both movies and TV, and my file structure was very simple - all movies were in one directory (mostly ISO files), TV shows were in a TV folder and then subfolders for each TV show.

And I was able to scan the entire movie folder with XBMC and it would find cover art, ratings, plot, etc.

Now with XBMC on Windows, it seems I get the cover art if I stay in File view mode, but I cannot see anything else (plot, ratings). If I switch to Library Mode, I see the metadata like plot and ratings, but no cover art.

I'm open to changing up my file structure to use Media Center Master or another program if needed. But it seems like XBMC itself found ALL of the info as it used to on Xbox, but limits what is displayed in each view (file vs library). So you can no longer view all info in file mode?
post #248 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Update : The XBMC Netflix guide is almost finished, i`m going to get some sleep and then post it. After that, i`ll finish toying around with the Movies by genre/type organization guide using the Aeon MQ menu creation options, both should be up today (i.e next 10 hours, after i wake up)

Oh, and last but not least, seb, the XBMC DSPlayer developer is back, he finished his exams, and a new official version of DS Player should be up in the next week.

Very cool, I'm looking forward to the XBMC Netflix guide.
post #249 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Update : The XBMC Netflix guide is almost finished, i`m going to get some sleep and then post it. After that, i`ll finish toying around with the Movies by genre/type organization guide using the Aeon MQ menu creation options, both should be up today (i.e next 10 hours, after i wake up)

Oh, and last but not least, seb, the XBMC DSPlayer developer is back, he finished his exams, and a new official version of DS Player should be up in the next week.

Question, will DSPlayer even be relevant if/when XBMC officially releases with full HD Audio bitsreaming support? That after all is the main reason why many people are using the DSPlayer build. I understand that going with the DSPlayer build gives the user control over the decoders used for video playback, but if HD Audio bitstreaming via ffdshow was the big reason for use then DSPlayer loses some of its luster.
post #250 of 3139
Well, DS Player uses the EVR renderer which should produce the best PQ (aside from madVR) but i have yet to compare it to the normal XBMC renderer (which is a custom one created by Team XBMC, for the record).
From what i have understood, DS Player will replace the normal XBMC decoders on Windows, that`s why they are working at it.
The other advantage of ffdshow is that it can produce great upscaling, comparable to a high-end STB (or the PS3), with the Lascoz resizer, and only DS Player has the ability to use directshow filters like ffdshow.
post #251 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Well, DS Player uses the EVR renderer which should produce the best PQ (aside from madVR) but i have yet to compare it to the normal XBMC renderer (which is a custom one created by Team XBMC, for the record).
From what i have understood, DS Player will replace the normal XBMC decoders on Windows, that`s why they are working at it.
The other advantage of ffdshow is that it can produce great upscaling, comparable to a high-end STB (or the PS3), with the Lascoz resizer, and only DS Player has the ability to use directshow filters like ffdshow.

I would definitely be very curious to see comparisons of PQ with DSPlayer vs the XBMC renderer
post #252 of 3139
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

I would definitely be very curious to see comparisons of PQ with DSPlayer vs the XBMC renderer

Ok, then i`ll do a comparison. One thing i can tell you is that the contrasts are different, the default XBMC renderer + decoders seems to produce a higher contrast. This can be of course adjusted, but since i`m a lazy bum i use DSPlayer since it produced the exact same contrast as MPC-HC. Actually i compared PQ between XBMC DS Player and MPC-HC and the PQ was identical, as expected (DS Player uses EVR (a custom version like MPC-HC) and the MPC-HC h.264/VC-1 decoder and splitter by default.

I`ll do a quick comparison tomorrow if i have time
post #253 of 3139
Btw, i finished the XBMC Netflix install guide (bottom of the guide, i`ll add a link to it in the main guide menu soon) . I can`t actually test it since i`m not from the US so i don`t/can`t have an XBMC account, so if anybody has issues please post, i`m kinda working blind on this .
post #254 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Ok, then i`ll do a comparison. One thing i can tell you is that the contrasts are different, the default XBMC renderer + decoders seems to produce a higher contrast. This can be of course adjusted, but since i`m a lazy bum i use DSPlayer since it produced the exact same contrast as MPC-HC. Actually i compared PQ between XBMC DS Player and MPC-HC and the PQ was identical, as expected (DS Player uses EVR (a custom version like MPC-HC) and the MPC-HC h.264/VC-1 decoder and splitter by default.

I`ll do a quick comparison tomorrow if i have time

Thanks. I know in the past the XBMC renderer has never been the strong point when it comes to PQ, so I would expect DSPlayer/EVR renderer to be superior.
post #255 of 3139
Just so I understand, while the build in XBMC player doesn't bitstream HD audio, it will still downsample and play a MKV that contains DTS-HD or TrueHD audio track, correct?
post #256 of 3139
...but too bad the DSPlayer is very unstable..
post #257 of 3139
For those using an intel GPU (such as the core i3/i5) and DSPlayer, you will encounter issues with h264 and VC1 content if you use FFDShow or MPC Video Decoders. I put together a quick writeup on how to set up and use the Arcsoft Video decoder w/ Intel GPUs and VC-1. This should work with the DSPlayer as well since it is a DirectShow player:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2011...-an-intel-gpu/
post #258 of 3139
I feel very stupid but everytime i try to use ds player, the buttons on the OSD do not work anymore??....
post #259 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Btw, i finished the XBMC Netflix install guide (bottom of the guide, i`ll add a link to it in the main guide menu soon) . I can`t actually test it since i`m not from the US so i don`t/can`t have an XBMC account, so if anybody has issues please post, i`m kinda working blind on this .

us based and netflix subscriber come on in!
post #260 of 3139
so i grew some hair, and installed the netflix addon... wow, absolutely horrible PQ!. i have a 13mb connection too. wtf.
post #261 of 3139
I'm having some issues after using Media Center Master. I'm using XBMC Dharma. I did have it setup so XBMC was getting movie/tv info but decided to try MCM. Looked good and I got all my movie/TV info setup. Started XBMC and now I have a few issues that were not there before. First of all I can't add direct links from the Home page for Movies and TV shows. Under the Skin options the option to turn them on is grayed out. So now I have to go in through the Videos tab off the main page. I can see everything but Library mode is grayed out and I can't figure out how to get it back. Any ideas?
post #262 of 3139
You don't have any content specified as movies then. You have to go into Videos, select your movie directory(s). The using the Context Menu (C on keyboard) do a Set Content. Set the type to Movies.

Ditto for TV Shows, you need to specify the directories for that.

Unfortunately you have to specify a scraper doing these steps. I haven't figured out a way to get XBMC to just use the NFO files and JPGs in the folders vs. not using the scrapers yet. I am using MyMovies to populate that info.
post #263 of 3139
Ok, that worked. I didn't set the content on purpose so the meta data would not be downloaded since I was getting that info from MCM but it looks like you have to get it to make the home page links and library mode to work. thanks.
post #264 of 3139
So I'm a little confused. How do you know if the meta data your gathering is from MCM or from the scrapers built into XBMC?
post #265 of 3139
I don't know, that's a good question. I tried to disable all my scrapers, but you can't disable the default one. So I just loaded the MyMovies scraper so at least all the data is coming from the same place.

You also have to consider what if you want it to scrape if metadata doesn't exist or to fill in missing pieces.

I read somewhere that metadata is preferred, but I know for a fact the MovieDB scraper updated the thumbs in the DB over the ones I had in the directories.
post #266 of 3139
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Originally Posted by davidtt485 View Post

I feel very stupid but everytime i try to use ds player, the buttons on the OSD do not work anymore??....

anyone??... when i install the ds player, it seems that the pause play and fast forward buttons along with the audio settings and video settings none of these buttons on the On Screen Display work... is that correct?? I have tried multiple ds player builds and all seem to have that symptom...
post #267 of 3139
After trying out a myriad of different HTPC front ends, I was completely disappointment.

Like Most HTPC users, my box has:

Lots Movies in various SD and HD formats
Connected to a 1080p tv
A video card that streams HD audio to a high-end reciever/sound system
TV tuner card for OTA

XBMC absolutely nails most of this, and is truly heads&shoulders above the competition.

I'm very excited about HD bitstreaming support, and what appears to be PVR functionality.

Thanks for a great product!
post #268 of 3139
First, thanks again for the guides GreenEyze.

I think I am making the switch from WMC to XBMC.
Got it installed and I like it a lot.

I already have all my meta data for everything from WMC that I got with MCM.


However, when I add to the library XBMC seems to want to scrape for the info.

I have MCM running with this as per the guide
XBMC
-> Create movie.nfo.nfo metadata for XBMC

I thought this would some just import all the data to XBMC so it would not have to do anything.

I don't want XBMC downloading anything it does not have to.

Also... the one part of the guide I disagree with in the MCM section
Renaming tab
-> Select Rename folder during fetch & Rename files too

Movies Tab
-> Deselect "Ask for IMDB ID on unknown results"

I spend the time meticulously naming and storing my files. I don't want any other programs altering it. ...I really don't even need this program running in the background at all times. If I get a new movie I put it in the directory and simply run MCM and get the metadata. I could see if new files were being added all day long but who realistically does that? Also don't understand the not being asked for IMDB info if it does not know it?

Anyway....back to my question.
How do I stop XBMC from what will surely be hours of time.... to just use the metadata and artwork I already have that I got previously with MCM?
post #269 of 3139
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Originally Posted by lordhutt View Post


Anyway....back to my question.
How do I stop XBMC from what will surely be hours of time.... to just use the metadata and artwork I already have that I got previously with MCM?

Provided each movie is in its own folder, XBMC will look in the folder first for existing metadata and use it. If there is nothing in the folder, it will scrape.
post #270 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Mallet21 View Post

Provided each movie is in its own folder, XBMC will look in the folder first for existing metadata and use it. If there is nothing in the folder, it will scrape.

So your telling me if my data that I had from WMC is there (that I got from MCM) it will use it...
If that is the case shouldn't it be very fast in doing so?
Everything thing is there.... like I said I was running WMC in full force.
It is taking time like it is scraping from the net.....

actually... just messed with it again... it literally says at the top of the screen. 'Downloading content from the internet'
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