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post #2491 of 3139
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Originally Posted by dazz87 View Post

I had the same issue like you. I was confused why some of my blu ray iso and blu ray folders structure were not showing the blu ray case. I figure it out by accident. The ones that were not showing up correctly all I had to do was just played the movie. 5 seconds into the movie I exit and guess what the case change from the default to blu ray. I ended up doing this to about 75 of my blu ray and dvds. After doing this now all my movies has the correct case. This was on Aeon Nox 3.5.0

I tried playing them but still no cases, maybe because I'm using an external player? I ending up switching to Aeon MQ3 which automatically got all the correct cases, so it must be something skin related.
I have an issue when backing out of menus in Aeon MQ3 so can't use that skin either lol
I don't really want to go through playing all 400+ movies just to get the correct case mad.gif
post #2492 of 3139
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Originally Posted by dazz87 View Post

I had the same issue like you. I was confused why some of my blu ray iso and blu ray folders structure were not showing the blu ray case. I figure it out by accident. The ones that were not showing up correctly all I had to do was just played the movie. 5 seconds into the movie I exit and guess what the case change from the default to blu ray. I ended up doing this to about 75 of my blu ray and dvds. After doing this now all my movies has the correct case. This was on Aeon Nox 3.5.0

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Originally Posted by acejh1987 View Post

I tried playing them but still no cases, maybe because I'm using an external player? I ending up switching to Aeon MQ3 which automatically got all the correct cases, so it must be something skin related.
I have an issue when backing out of menus in Aeon MQ3 so can't use that skin either lol
I don't really want to go through playing all 400+ movies just to get the correct case mad.gif

My best guess for this is that with Aeon Nox, the cases are not entirely done by file name tags. For example:

Movie: 2 Fast 2 Furious
File Name:

2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.BDRIP.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.3D.ext = 3D Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).720P.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).DVD.ext = DVD Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).640P.ext = DVD Case

As you can see from the data above, the cases are not really effected by the file name tag, except for when it comes to 3D Blu-ray cases in my experience. What the skin does is take the video format tags that it reads from the actual file to make the decision. So if you movie is encoded in 720P and above, it will get a Blu-ray case. If it's a SD resolution, then it will get a DVD case.

Now the reason dazz87's method of opening each movie and playing for 5 seconds works is becuase in my experience, XBMC has a hard time pulling the codec/resolution/audio information out of ISO files. Thats why after playing the movie for a few seconds, XBMC could then detect what was in the ISO and then display the proper case.

I hope this was very informative. I personally fully back up my 3D movies as ISO, but then turn them into SBS format for XBMC to play. All my other movies I rip to MKV without any quality loss, and just keep the Blu-rays if I need to make a new rip of it. I don't have any issues with proper case displaying then...

~Ninja
post #2493 of 3139
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Originally Posted by RandomNinjaAtk View Post

My best guess for this is that with Aeon Nox, the cases are not entirely done by file name tags. For example:
Movie: 2 Fast 2 Furious
File Name:
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.BDRIP.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.3D.ext = 3D Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).720P.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).DVD.ext = DVD Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).640P.ext = DVD Case
As you can see from the data above, the cases are not really effected by the file name tag, except for when it comes to 3D Blu-ray cases in my experience. What the skin does is take the video format tags that it reads from the actual file to make the decision. So if you movie is encoded in 720P and above, it will get a Blu-ray case. If it's a SD resolution, then it will get a DVD case.
Now the reason dazz87's method of opening each movie and playing for 5 seconds works is becuase in my experience, XBMC has a hard time pulling the codec/resolution/audio information out of ISO files. Thats why after playing the movie for a few seconds, XBMC could then detect what was in the ISO and then display the proper case.
I hope this was very informative. I personally fully back up my 3D movies as ISO, but then turn them into SBS format for XBMC to play. All my other movies I rip to MKV without any quality loss, and just keep the Blu-rays if I need to make a new rip of it. I don't have any issues with proper case displaying then...
~Ninja

Thanks for info, I can confirm after switching to XBMC internal player and playing the movies for a few seconds it did then show the correct case, until I played American Pie BD ISO which XBMC played the wrong playlist and now thinks it a DVD biggrin.gif
Not sure why it doesn't just look at the file name and use that to determine what case to use instead of having to play the file back (like Aeon MQ3) it seems a lot easier, also I can confirm it is only an issue with ISO files, MKV files get the right cases and do not need to be played back.
post #2494 of 3139
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Originally Posted by RandomNinjaAtk View Post

My best guess for this is that with Aeon Nox, the cases are not entirely done by file name tags. For example:
Movie: 2 Fast 2 Furious
File Name:
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.BDRIP.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).1080P.3D.ext = 3D Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).720P.ext = Blu-ray Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).DVD.ext = DVD Case
2 Fast 2 Furious (Year).640P.ext = DVD Case
As you can see from the data above, the cases are not really effected by the file name tag, except for when it comes to 3D Blu-ray cases in my experience. What the skin does is take the video format tags that it reads from the actual file to make the decision. So if you movie is encoded in 720P and above, it will get a Blu-ray case. If it's a SD resolution, then it will get a DVD case.
Now the reason dazz87's method of opening each movie and playing for 5 seconds works is becuase in my experience, XBMC has a hard time pulling the codec/resolution/audio information out of ISO files. Thats why after playing the movie for a few seconds, XBMC could then detect what was in the ISO and then display the proper case.
I hope this was very informative. I personally fully back up my 3D movies as ISO, but then turn them into SBS format for XBMC to play. All my other movies I rip to MKV without any quality loss, and just keep the Blu-rays if I need to make a new rip of it. I don't have any issues with proper case displaying then...
~Ninja

Yeah I do think XBMC has a hard time pulling in the correct codec, resolution and audio out of the file. Here is where it gets weird on my end. The movies that didnt show the correct case were not just all iso, they were also blu ray structure. Like I said eariler some of my shows the correct info and some had the "unknown" info. Example Mymovie\300\300.iso didnt know show up. But MyMoves\Coming to America\Coming to America.iso did show the correct info. I am very happy that I resolve the issue cause I didnt want to re name all of my movies, cause it will screw up my yadis scraper on my dune player.
post #2495 of 3139
Help me!
How to xbmc origen x15e external display?
post #2496 of 3139
Looks like Plex isn't going to do me much good right now. I think I am "double NAT'd" according to a topic in the Plex forum. I have a hub thingy between my router and HTPC. So I got one green little and then a red one saying that I can't get the server connected. I'll look into it later.
post #2497 of 3139
^decided to just run an ethernet cable from my router downstairs to my home theater upstairs for that reason. i was getting really slow transfer speeds through the use of powerline adapters. good luck.
post #2498 of 3139
I'll try running the ethernet cable directly to the HTPC without the switch just to see if it will work. Then I'll go from there.
post #2499 of 3139
Hello XBMC users,

I am having two issues:

I set up media center master using the initial guide in this thread. Everything seems to be working but media center master wasn't automatically scraping my media. I found the option to enable auto scraping which lead to another problem. Whenever I and transferring files into the folder that is associated with MCM, MCM will crash if auto scraping is enabled. When I disable auto scraping, the crashing stops. Is there just a bad MCM build?


Also, I've noticed occasionally some of my movies will be added twice within the XBMC library. I'm guessing that there is some conflict between XBMC and MCM's scrapers. Is there any way to give MCM's scraper priority so some of my movies will stop showing up twice in my XBMC library?
post #2500 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

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Blu Ray disk support


Software
Total Media Theater 5 configuration


Install/update to the latest version.

In options, the audio tab :
  • For bitstreaming : Select HDMI and "Use primary audio"
  • For analog audio : Choose your speaker configuration
  • Make sure hardware acceleration is turned on.

XBMC config file
  • Enable "Hidden files and folders" in the Windows Explorer options
  • Place the downloaded Playercorefactory.xml file inside : C:\\Users\\\\AppData\\Roaming\\XBMC\\UserData




Now when you use the play disk button, the Blu Ray in the disk drive will play, launching the TMT3 7MC plugin (the one used for playback with Windows 7 Media Center).

is there something like this that can be used with windvd or powerdvd?
post #2501 of 3139
I'm planning on moving my current XBMC installation from local setup to a media server and would like to know if there is any advantage of using Media Center Master to redo my collection. Currently, everything is scrapped using XBMC scrappers. I will also be doing a mySQL setup to synchronize two XBMC installation.

The only concern I have about having a separate media manager is that I will lose the ability to change meta data from inside XBMC. Also, is there any particular advantage of this setup versus internal XBMC database if I plan on using mySQL for synchronization.
post #2502 of 3139
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Originally Posted by swarm87 View Post

is there something like this that can be used with windvd or powerdvd?

Just edit the playercorefactory file to point to PDVD or WinDVD instead of TMT.
post #2503 of 3139
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Originally Posted by almostinsane View Post

Just edit the playercorefactory file to point to PDVD or WinDVD instead of TMT.

is there anything else i need to do? i clicked play disc and nothing happened. also am i supposed to just replace the one that's already there
Edited by swarm87 - 9/10/12 at 6:30pm
post #2504 of 3139
How do you guys share media from Media Server to the XBMC clients? Is it via network shared drives? I currently have a HTPC/media Server all in one but I'm planning on building a new media server to separate out the HTPC and Server part. I would like the the media server to be more than just a NAS, I would also like to run Plex Server (to serve to my android tablets / Roku) on it so I will need a beefier CPU to do all the transcoding.
post #2505 of 3139
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Originally Posted by ajamils View Post

How do you guys share media from Media Server to the XBMC clients? Is it via network shared drives? I currently have a HTPC/media Server all in one but I'm planning on building a new media server to separate out the HTPC and Server part. I would like the the media server to be more than just a NAS, I would also like to run Plex Server (to serve to my android tablets / Roku) on it so I will need a beefier CPU to do all the transcoding.
I use MakeMKV to rip everything and store it on a separate WHS 2011 server. All my clients connect over gigabit or Wireless-N. I don't do any transcoding on the server side, I just rely upon the clien to have the power to decode and play content. You will likely want a decent quad-core CPU if you plan on serving content to multiple devices while transcoding.
post #2506 of 3139
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

I use MakeMKV to rip everything and store it on a separate WHS 2011 server. All my clients connect over gigabit or Wireless-N. I don't do any transcoding on the server side, I just rely upon the clien to have the power to decode and play content. You will likely want a decent quad-core CPU if you plan on serving content to multiple devices while transcoding.

Any recommendation on the CPU? I am looking at the following setup.

- AMD A8-3870K
- ASRock A75 EXTREME6
- G-Skill 8GB RAM

Will this setup be powerful enough to act as a media server as well as transcode/stream videos (mostly 1080p/720p mkvs) to multiple Plex clients ?
post #2507 of 3139
A Pentium G is kinda the minimum for transcoding high-bitrate material to Plex clients, you`re fine with the A8. I use a Core 2 Quad Q9450 with 4GB of RAM (DDR2) on my main machine (which doubles as a Plex server), which is probably slower than the A8 3870 and it handles transcoding just fine, i haven`t seen more then 40-50% CPU utilization while transcoding to my tablet.
post #2508 of 3139
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Originally Posted by swarm87 View Post

is there anything else i need to do? i clicked play disc and nothing happened. also am i supposed to just replace the one that's already there

Won`t work that way with PowerDVD, you also need a special .bat script to get it working. I`ll write one down for you, but i need to know 2 things :

  • Your HTPC user name (the one that appears under C:/Users)
  • 32 bit or 64 bit OS ?
post #2509 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

A Pentium G is kinda the minimum for transcoding high-bitrate material to Plex clients, you`re fine with the A8. I use a Core 2 Quad Q9450 with 4GB of RAM (DDR2) on my main machine (which doubles as a Plex server), which is probably slower than the A8 3870 and it handles transcoding just fine, i haven`t seen more then 40-50% CPU utilization while transcoding to my tablet.

So for transcoding, is it better to look for i3 instead of the A8? Also, since I'm planning on using these parts to build a mid-size media server, I'm looking for a board with most SATA connections and it seems there aren't many intel boards with high number of SATA ports. The ones that do have decent number of ports are at least double the price.
post #2510 of 3139
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Originally Posted by ajamils View Post

So for transcoding, is it better to look for i3 instead of the A8? Also, since I'm planning on using these parts to build a mid-size media server, I'm looking for a board with most SATA connections and it seems there aren't many intel boards with high number of SATA ports. The ones that do have decent number of ports are at least double the price.

If your primary goals are real-time transcoding and mass storage, get the quad-core and a decent RAID controller card. Save money on the motherboard. Also, 4GB RAM should be plenty.

The A8 definitely has an advantage in price, as the cheapest Intel quad-core (not dual core with hyperthreading) is the i5-2310 (I'd recommend the i5-2400). The Intel system will consume less power over time, saving you money if your server runs 24/7. Also, the i5 is nearly twice as fast at nearly every benchmark. I only have a Core 2 Duo E6320 - it has more than enough power for managing my fileserver, but I'll need to upgrade if I plan on transcoding any Blu-rays while handling other server functions.

Invest in a decent RAID controller card. It will save you a lot of headache dealing with the limitations of weak on-board controllers and software management. I use the Areca ARC-1222 8-port controller and it has been phenomenal so far.

Again, a lot of this depends upon how many simultaneous transcoding streams you expect to have running.
post #2511 of 3139
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Won`t work that way with PowerDVD, you also need a special .bat script to get it working. I`ll write one down for you, but i need to know 2 things :
  • Your HTPC user name (the one that appears under C:/Users)
  • 32 bit or 64 bit OS ?

sent a PM
post #2512 of 3139
No reason to spend the money on Areca - Intel is fine. Just have a good backup story (Which is the same with Areca anyway).
post #2513 of 3139
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Originally Posted by almostinsane View Post

No reason to spend the money on Areca.

Well, that's your opinion.

1. Motherboards don't typically have 8 SATA ports (let alone more for OS drives)
2. Areca offers great flexibility for different volume types as well as online RAID expansion
3. Speed - the dedicated card blows away any onboard solution and saves CPU cycles for other tasks
post #2514 of 3139
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

If your primary goals are real-time transcoding and mass storage, get the quad-core and a decent RAID controller card. Save money on the motherboard. Also, 4GB RAM should be plenty.
The A8 definitely has an advantage in price, as the cheapest Intel quad-core (not dual core with hyperthreading) is the i5-2310 (I'd recommend the i5-2400). The Intel system will consume less power over time, saving you money if your server runs 24/7. Also, the i5 is nearly twice as fast at nearly every benchmark. I only have a Core 2 Duo E6320 - it has more than enough power for managing my fileserver, but I'll need to upgrade if I plan on transcoding any Blu-rays while handling other server functions.
Invest in a decent RAID controller card. It will save you a lot of headache dealing with the limitations of weak on-board controllers and software management. I use the Areca ARC-1222 8-port controller and it has been phenomenal so far.
Again, a lot of this depends upon how many simultaneous transcoding streams you expect to have running.

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Originally Posted by almostinsane View Post

No reason to spend the money on Areca - Intel is fine. Just have a good backup story (Which is the same with Areca anyway).

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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

Well, that's your opinion.
1. Motherboards don't typically have 8 SATA ports (let alone more for OS drives)
2. Areca offers great flexibility for different volume types as well as online RAID expansion
3. Speed - the dedicated card blows away any onboard solution and saves CPU cycles for other tasks

Thank you for the detailed reply. After reading some online reviews, it is apparent that AMD A8 might not work for me due to its lack of performance compared to i3/i5. So I will have to look for a good deal on intel cpu. As for RAID, I plan on using FlexRaid. The card that you recommended looks good but it costs more than all my other parts combined so that is definitely not an option.

I have found few boards on newegg that have as many as 10 SATA ports but the boards are way too overkill of an HTPC environment
Edited by ajamils - 9/11/12 at 8:44pm
post #2515 of 3139
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

Well, that's your opinion.
1. Motherboards don't typically have 8 SATA ports (let alone more for OS drives)

That's not true anymore.
post #2516 of 3139
This is the card I bought for this. So far I have two 4TB drives but once I have a few more it is RAID 5 or 6.
post #2517 of 3139
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

That's not true anymore.

I know that they exist, but they aren't that typical (common). Usually when you do find a mobo with 8 SATA ports, they are often on two (or more) separate controllers or it offers limited RAID capabilities, making it more difficult for building a large array. Again, it all depends on your needs and wants. If you're working with only a few drives - onboard is OK. But if you want more capacity, performance, and options, dedicated controllers are the only way to fly.
post #2518 of 3139
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

I know that they exist, but they aren't that typical (common). Usually when you do find a mobo with 8 SATA ports, they are often on two (or more) separate controllers or it offers limited RAID capabilities, making it more difficult for building a large array. Again, it all depends on your needs and wants. If you're working with only a few drives - onboard is OK. But if you want more capacity, performance, and options, dedicated controllers are the only way to fly.

Disagree again. Why would you use the fake raid from the motherboard anyway? There really is no point in hardware raid for HTPC, imo.

You can get a board with 8 sata ports readily and easily for $60-$70 and then add something like FlexRaid or unRaid for another $30-$50 and you come out way ahead and have a better server/storage for the HTPC platform.

I just don't understand why people continue to use or recommend hardware raid for HTPC servers. Way too much downside for really no gain at all for the HTPC platform.
post #2519 of 3139
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Disagree again. Why would you use the fake raid from the motherboard anyway? There really is no point in hardware raid for HTPC, imo.

I wouldn't use software RAID, that was my point. Also, I thought we were talking about servers, not HTPCs.
post #2520 of 3139
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

I wouldn't use software RAID, that was my point.

Why?

For something like a corporation, business or website then hardware raid makes sense. But for a home HTPC server? Not so much.
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