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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

I also got live TV working with a Mediaportal back end and Mediaportal client, but I cannot get the guide to pull the correct channel data along with my HDhomerun. WMC doesnt do this either until I manually set it, but I dont see where I can tell it "here is the channel, use this data" like I can in WMC. Is that in Frodo somewhere? (I did make the data in the HDhomerun tool match the callsigns from Zap2it, but that didnt help. (It didnt help WMC either, so like I said, I have to manually fix that).

I use all three TV Settings options in XBMC
  • Synchronize channel groups with backends
  • Always use the channel from the backend(s)
  • Use backend channels numbers (only works with 1 enabled PVR addon)

It pulled all the guide data correctly, but I had to get it working with NPVR first. I'm also trying Schedules Direct instead of a Web Grabber. I'm not sure if you can take advantage of the WMC downloaded Zap2it, but that would be nice.

I get an image like this each time I start XBMC
post #2642 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

I have no thoughts other than to confirm that it isn't working for me either
Since I'm new to XBMC, I didn't realize that it had ever worked smile.gif None of my trilogies or anthologies show up as collections. Only mildly annoying, but I'd be interested in a fix as well

Do you have 'Group Movies in Sets' enabled under System-Video?
post #2643 of 3139
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Originally Posted by dan4081 View Post

Do you have 'Group Movies in Sets' enabled under System-Video?

Yep, no dice
post #2644 of 3139
Media center master screws up something with sets in XBMC. Just go into your movies, hit "c" for the menu, go to movie info and hit refresh. You'll have to do that for every movie, but once you do, if you have movie sets turned on, xbmc should properly re-scrape them and put them into the sets.
post #2645 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

I use all three TV Settings options in XBMC
  • Synchronize channel groups with backends
  • Always use the channel from the backend(s)
  • Use backend channels numbers (only works with 1 enabled PVR addon)
It pulled all the guide data correctly, but I had to get it working with NPVR first. I'm also trying Schedules Direct instead of a Web Grabber. I'm not sure if you can take advantage of the WMC downloaded Zap2it, but that would be nice.
I get an image like this each time I start XBMC


Yeah I have all of those enabled, but still no EPG. Maybe its something wrong on the MediaPortal TV server. But I have gone through all of those options as well with no success.
post #2646 of 3139
Hi
I may need some help here. I've got Asrock VisionX Series HTPC. All drivers and programm installed and working properly.
Yesterday I installed XBMC 11 and today tried 12 with the same issue.
The XBMC coming up, but no text can be visible.
See images attached.
Can somebody give me an idea?
Bot TMT5 and MPC-HC working fine.


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post #2648 of 3139
Thank you for the link, it seems like AMD driver has an issue.
post #2649 of 3139
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Originally Posted by a1sy View Post

Thank you for the link, it seems like AMD driver has an issue.

Right click, go to properties, set it to run in compatibility mode for Windows XP.
post #2650 of 3139
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Originally Posted by a1sy View Post

Thank you for the link, it seems like AMD driver has an issue.

Yes, the new "Never Settle" beta drivers kill the fonts in XBMC.
post #2651 of 3139
With the wealth of knowledge on this site and this sub-forum in particular, I've gathered up the courage to try my own HTPC build with XBMC running the show. All parts have been ordered based on recommendations that I've read in my extensive searches, but one little blip that I came across recently has me questioning one of the items I purchased. I went with the AMD A6-5400K based on people's seemingly positive experiences with that processor; however, I read the other day (after my order was placed) that the A6 cannot handle 3D and that it may compromise the speed at which I am able to rip my movies. Now the 3D thing doesn't really bother me as I have no desire to jump into that realm whatsoever, but if my ripping speed is somehow affected; I definitely want to upgrade to soemthing else. So, I guess my question is........should I move forward with exchanging the A6, and if so, which of the other AMD APUs should fit the bill? I have about 350 dvds and 150 blu-rays that will need to be ripped, so speed is definitely a factor for me.

Thanks in advance for any replies. I have already been playing around with XBMC on my laptop and to say that I'm impressed would be a severe understatement. This build will function only as a source for all my media and to maybe surf the net every now and then. No plans to record anything off the tv.

This has got to be one of the most exciting projects I've ever engaged in, btw. cool.gif
post #2652 of 3139
Which PVR apps are you guys using?

Argus TV
NextPVR
MediaPortal

Which offers the best overall performance?

Thanks,
post #2653 of 3139
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Originally Posted by ApolloCreed View Post

So, I guess my question is........should I move forward with exchanging the A6, and if so, which of the other AMD APUs should fit the bill? I have about 350 dvds and 150 blu-rays that will need to be ripped, so speed is definitely a factor for me

Ripping is not that cpu intensive. Shouldn't have any problems with makemkv and the llano. Most other forums are still chock full of AMD supporters, but for average usage most of the HTPC recommendations around here are for intel's i3 or g630

Some discussions you'll read might be confusing ripping with encoding. Some people have an obsession with saving 1:1 iso files of all their discs, and then encoding them to 720p for tablet/smartphone playback. Encoding (and transcoding) is CPU intensive, and it typically uses all available cpu by default. I don't really encode, but I've read this in response to Handbrake and Plex users reporting over 90% utilitzation. I'd bet that you can lower your cpu usage within the options if you are willing to live with slower encoding times

To de-bottleneck ripping MKVs, you would go in the following order -> BD-rom speed -> HDD write speed -> RAM/CPU (for buffer space)

Your BD-rom and HDD will get you the 95% increase for 5% cost solution where a ram/cpu upgrade may never see a difference if everything is choked at the BD/HDD interfaces
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Which PVR apps are you guys using?
Argus TV
NextPVR
MediaPortal
Which offers the best overall performance?
Thanks,

I use NextPVR and like it a lot. I haven't tried Argus, but MediaPortal was still requiring a 32 bit version of W7 to be running last I checked (for cablecard support at least). MediaPortal is a very polished looking front-end replacement in my opinion, where NextPVR is really directed at the TV portion of things. LiveTV, recording management, programming guides, and a lighter-weight installation vs a full fledged 10-foot interface. Different approaches but I wanted a very flexible livetv/recording experience. For me NextPVR was the first one I went about trying to get integrated into XBMC, and I'm satisfied with the results so far
post #2654 of 3139
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Which PVR apps are you guys using?
Argus TV
NextPVR
MediaPortal
Which offers the best overall performance?
Thanks,

Good question and from looking I see alot of people using the 2nd/3rd option. I tried the mediaportal backend a while back but had issues. I may try it again soon when I get a chance.
post #2655 of 3139
Thanks guys.

I don't have cable. I'll be viewing primarily OTA network channels with an antenna and tuner card.

So you think NextPVR is the choice for this? I am on Win7 64bit, btw.
post #2656 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Favelle View Post

Yes, the new "Never Settle" beta drivers kill the fonts in XBMC.

Run it in compatibility mode for windows xp and there's no problem. You'll notice no difference in performance and it fixes the fonts.
post #2657 of 3139
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Originally Posted by corpgator View Post

Run it in compatibility mode for windows xp and there's no problem. You'll notice no difference in performance and it fixes the fonts.

Fixed in the newest ATI drivers, though I didn't have the issue, I understand that running in compatibility mode kills HD Audio - if running a build that supports it.
post #2658 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

Ripping is not that cpu intensive. Shouldn't have any problems with makemkv and the llano. Most other forums are still chock full of AMD supporters, but for average usage most of the HTPC recommendations around here are for intel's i3 or g630
Some discussions you'll read might be confusing ripping with encoding. Some people have an obsession with saving 1:1 iso files of all their discs, and then encoding them to 720p for tablet/smartphone playback. Encoding (and transcoding) is CPU intensive, and it typically uses all available cpu by default. I don't really encode, but I've read this in response to Handbrake and Plex users reporting over 90% utilitzation. I'd bet that you can lower your cpu usage within the options if you are willing to live with slower encoding times
To de-bottleneck ripping MKVs, you would go in the following order -> BD-rom speed -> HDD write speed -> RAM/CPU (for buffer space)
Your BD-rom and HDD will get you the 95% increase for 5% cost solution where a ram/cpu upgrade may never see a difference if everything is choked at the BD/HDD interfaces.

Thanks for the reply. In anticipation of my eventual build, I've been using AnyDVD to rip to the hard drive and then CloneDVD to create perfect iso copies on my laptop. That was one of my pre-determined rules in this project: exact copies of all my discs. So in my case, a faster processor could certainly improve the time it takes to copy my discs??

edit: After re-reading, maybe I misinterpreted. I will not be encoding to 720p. Just storing exact copies of my movies (both dvd and blu-ray) to my local hard drives for playback on XBMC.
post #2659 of 3139
if you are all about ripping only (like anydvd's rip to image option) then bd-rom speed is the biggest bottleneck. I had a 4x bdrom and now I have a 12x i beleive - anyway speed went from like 8mbs to over 20 or 25 mbs now.. I think. Time went from around1 hour for a movie down to about 20 minutes give or take. Same PC / CPU/ Hard Drive
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Originally Posted by ApolloCreed View Post

Thanks for the reply. In anticipation of my eventual build, I've been using AnyDVD to rip to the hard drive and then CloneDVD to create perfect iso copies on my laptop. That was one of my pre-determined rules in this project: exact copies of all my discs. So in my case, a faster processor could certainly improve the time it takes to copy my discs??
edit: After re-reading, maybe I misinterpreted. I will not be encoding to 720p. Just storing exact copies of my movies (both dvd and blu-ray) to my local hard drives for playback on XBMC.
post #2660 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

To de-bottleneck ripping MKVs, you would go in the following order -> BD-rom speed -> HDD write speed -> RAM/CPU (for buffer space)
Your BD-rom and HDD will get you the 95% increase for 5% cost solution where a ram/cpu upgrade may never see a difference if everything is choked at the BD/HDD interfaces

I probably rambled too much . . . but 1:1 ripping speed boosts would mostly benefit from the fastest possible BD drive first (as jim said)

Next improvement would come from a faster storage drive (where they are being ripped to), but it'll take a while before they even make BD drives that can read faster than high end storage drives currently write
post #2661 of 3139
Okay, thanks for the info fellas! My LG drive is 12X so it appears that I'll be trudging through my rips as fast as I could hope for. Since I don't necessarily have to follow through with the RMA process that I already started, I think I'll just roll with the A6.

Just got a text from my wife......."2 large packages just arrived at the door"!! cool.gif

And the saga begins...........

Wish me luck. wink.gif
post #2662 of 3139
What is the current fastest BD ripper? I know ripping speed can vary from the speed listed on the drive.
post #2663 of 3139
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

What is the current fastest BD ripper? I know ripping speed can vary from the speed listed on the drive.



15x



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129072
post #2664 of 3139
Thread Starter 
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Careful, ripping is read dependent

Those pioneer drives are still 12x single layer and 8x dual layer
post #2665 of 3139
Thread Starter 
12x LiteOn internal Blu Ray readers are the same spec for Single Layer, and 6x (instead of 8x) for Dual Layer for $40 less
post #2666 of 3139
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

What is the current fastest BD ripper? I know ripping speed can vary from the speed listed on the drive.
15x

No. The Pioneer BRD-2208 only rips at 8x for DL BD-ROM and 12x for SL BD-ROM

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Computer/Computer+Drives/BDR-2208

Incidentally, there are several models that can rip at those speeds. DL BD-ROM has been stuck at 8x for quite a while now.
post #2667 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

12x LiteOn internal Blu Ray readers are the same spec for Single Layer, and 6x (instead of 8x) for Dual Layer for $40 less

The LG WH14NS40 is $70 at newegg, and it can do 8x/12x for DL/SL. Also, unlike previous LG models, this one does not have rip-lock.
post #2668 of 3139
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

Careful, ripping is read dependent
Those pioneer drives are still 12x single layer and 8x dual layer



You are correct. Was thinking of writing.

I got an LG drive and that thing rips pretty fast with MakeMKV. Maybe 20-25min per blu-ray disc.
post #2669 of 3139
I am trying to figure out the best way to store my movies.

I store my music like this :
music/artist/album/
in the folder I store the music files and the cover.jpg


What is the standard way to store movies? I am going to start organizing, and just want to make sure i do this correctly before I start XBMC. Is there a certain way to name the cover files?


I have another question:
Is there a way to have XBMC store the cover art for the movies and music locally on my HTPC SSD instead of relying on the server?


Thanks
post #2670 of 3139
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Just downloaded Frodo last night and installed on my Win 7 PC. I must say overall its very cool. I REALLY liked being able to natively play back Blu Ray ISO files without mounting anything and without external software like Total Media Theater. Going straight to the movie with no menus is a mixed blessing though. Its nice sometimes to just start the movie with no extra screens, trailers, warnings, etc, but then there is the issue of not being able to pull up a menu if the ISO is a Blu ray of a TV show with multiple episodes. I guess the only fix for that is the launch a third party program like TMT?
I also got live TV working with a Mediaportal back end and Mediaportal client, but I cannot get the guide to pull the correct channel data along with my HDhomerun. WMC doesnt do this either until I manually set it, but I dont see where I can tell it "here is the channel, use this data" like I can in WMC. Is that in Frodo somewhere? (I did make the data in the HDhomerun tool match the callsigns from Zap2it, but that didnt help. (It didnt help WMC either, so like I said, I have to manually fix that).

For watching (not recording) Live TV with my HDHomeRun, I use the TVGuide program addon for XBMC with mc2xml. I use the original HDHR with an antenna and only use one tuner. Works great for just watching TV.

It's easy to set up. I created a custom mc2xml.chl file to use only the channels I actually receive, and a mc2xml.ren file to rename the channels to my liking (for the TVGuide display). Info on how to create the mc2xml files is on the mc2xml website.
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