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post #121 of 527
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

you probably have the AUO A-MVA panel, which has a much more limited viewing angle with blacks washing out much worse than a S-LCD S-PVA (if it's not a A-MVA than its a CMI S-MVA, which is even worse in these two areas with the added issue of purplish blacks off-axis)

also, instead of using black tone or lowering brightness, you can lower the gamma setting to -1 or -2

Did try using gamma instead of black tone and I think you're right. So I have an AUO panel, supposedly, which is in the middle of quality? Should I maybe press Samsung about getting a new set with a better panel or will it not be worth the hassel? Also my last letter is "S", which doesn't correspond to anything listed. Any ideas?
post #122 of 527
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Originally Posted by Charlie Kocis View Post

Well whatever it is the off-angle viewing is TERRIBLE!!! It's a 65 inch and 8.5 feet back looking dead on I can see fading on the last couple of inches of the edges.
Well I know TS01, TS02, and US02 are Samsung panels. Not sure about MS01 or 2013 panels. Also heard there may be a TD01 or TB01 this year. But usually the Samsung panels are recommended over the other versions.
post #123 of 527
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Well I know TS01, TS02, and US02 are Samsung panels. Not sure about MS01 or 2013 panels. Also heard there may be a TD01 or TB01 this year. But usually the Samsung panels are recommended over the other versions.

There's a very useful thread for all panel types ocer at AVForums:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/1655689-lcd-matrices-differences-what-models-placed-part-2-a.html

Is it possible that certain screen sizes are only made by one manufacturer, thus making any possible exchange impossible?
post #124 of 527
Was just looking at un60eh6003. It has a HH01panel. Anything on this panel and is this set edge technology or back
post #125 of 527
Hi,

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I've done the exact same thing, only mine says version: 05. I've been searching for some way to find the original panel type for ages, so any help would be much appreciated!!

Model: UE40D5003BWXXU
Version: 05

I only need to know the panel manufacturer (Samsung, Philips, Sharp(?))

Thanks in advance smile.gif
post #126 of 527
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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post


What is the tv model? you have europe tv, so it begins with UExxExxxxx
Version no. 01 is a Samsung panel, so choose xxAxxFxx.
My tv is UE40EH6030 version no 01, panel 40A1AF0L.

Hi,

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I've done the exact same thing, only mine says version: 05. I've been searching for some way to find the original panel type for ages, so any help would be much appreciated!!

Model: UE40D5003BWXXU
Version: 05

I only need to know the panel manufacturer (Samsung, Philips, Sharp(?))

Thanks in advance smile.gif
post #127 of 527
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Originally Posted by meteorpolice View Post

Hi,

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I've done the exact same thing, only mine says version: 05. I've been searching for some way to find the original panel type for ages, so any help would be much appreciated!!

Model: UE40D5003BWXXU
Version: 05

I only need to know the panel manufacturer (Samsung, Philips, Sharp(?))

Thanks in advance smile.gif

According the Service Manual page 2-9 for your tv is only 2 type panels to choose:
Model Name: UE40D50**PW
Panel Type in TV SM:
1) 40P6UFOE
2) 40A6UFOE
So suppose Version: 05 is not a Samsung panel, you choose 1) 40P6UFOE
Anyway choosing the "wrong" panel type, you'll notice the differences in display as wrong colors/switching/garbled visuals or extra User Settings that don't work.

Download the ServiceManual here:
http://elektrotanya.com/samsung_ue32_37_40_46d55xxrs_ue46d57xxrs_ue22_27d50xxnw_19d40xxpw_ch_u66a_u57a_u57b.pdf/download.html
post #128 of 527
I went through the Sears Parts Direct site, these are all of the 2013s so far...

32F6300-TS01

40F6300-TS01
40F6400-TS01

46F6300-TS01
46F6400-ST01
46F7100-TD01
46F8000-TS01

50F6300-NH02
50F6400-CD01
50F6400-ND02

55F6300-TH01
55F6400-TS01
55F7100-TD01
55F7500-TS01
55F8000-TS01

60F6300-HS01
60F6400-HD01
60F7100-HH01
60F8000-TS01

65F6300-MS01 [the one I have with HORRIBLE "off-axis" viewing]
post #129 of 527
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Find Panel Type online BEFORE you buy.

The link below is an example of a search on searspartsdirect: using UN55ES

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/part-model/un55es

The panel types are listed as the last four items in the model code.

Use this to search:

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action

My advice, list first four items in Samsung HDTV model code for search.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Kocis View Post

I went through the Sears Parts Direct site, these are all of the 2013s so far...

Good to see my post and directions helped.....
post #130 of 527
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Originally Posted by Charlie Kocis View Post

I went through the Sears Parts Direct site, these are all of the 2013s so far...


50F6300-NH02

This is an odd entry on the Sears website because the only 50" F6300s that I have seen have been CH.

Never seen any reference to NH anywhere. Possibly a typo on the Sears site?
post #131 of 527
I don't think the 50 inch models use Samsung panels, as last years versions in that size also were C panels. If you want a Samsung panel, you may need to consider a 46 inch or 55 inch. Samsung panels are TS01, TS02, TD01, TH01, and US02 that I am familiar with. There may be an MS or MH panel, but not sure about that one. I don't think the H panels are Samsung, but not sure.
post #132 of 527
Samsung panels aren't made in 50" size

H means Sharp panel
post #133 of 527
I had a UN50ES6150 with a version number starting with a C, but I don't recall the rest. It had a very poor vertical angle of viewing. If I stood up the picture got quite washed out. The horizontal could have been better but was not an issue because we sit pretty much in front of the set. Short story, I ended up returning it.

Now have a UN46ES6150 with the highly regarded TS01 panel. The vertical angle of viewing is so much better. Of course this does affect my watching because I do not keep changing from sitting to standing. But it is greatly improved. And the horizontal seems better too, but not as much of a difference.

However the UN46ES6150 has very uneven lighting when using a calibration disc with full screen gray scales. The previous UN50ES6150 did not have any perceptible unevenness. Needless to say I'm pretty disappointed with UN46ES6150.

The UN46ES6150 had a manufacture date of May 2012, a whole year ago, & was made in Tijuana Mexico. I can't believe it was still in the supply chain. I did a software update & the unevenness seems less worse, but that may be wishful thinking. I don't know if a software change can affect the light output of some LEDs to help even out the illumination. When I saw the TS01 on the box I thought great. But I'm disappointed in the unevenness. I'd rather have the poor vertical viewing angle. Anyway in normal viewing the picture looks OK but it's too early to tell if it's a keeper.

Grumble, grumble
post #134 of 527
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Originally Posted by Mike99 View Post

I had a UN50ES6150 with a version number starting with a C, but I don't recall the rest. It had a very poor vertical angle of viewing. If I stood up the picture got quite washed out. The horizontal could have been better but was not an issue because we sit pretty much in front of the set. Short story, I ended up returning it.

Now have a UN46ES6150 with the highly regarded TS01 panel. The vertical angle of viewing is so much better. Of course this does affect my watching because I do not keep changing from sitting to standing. But it is greatly improved. And the horizontal seems better too, but not as much of a difference.

However the UN46ES6150 has very uneven lighting when using a calibration disc with full screen gray scales. The previous UN50ES6150 did not have any perceptible unevenness. Needless to say I'm pretty disappointed with UN46ES6150.

The UN46ES6150 had a manufacture date of May 2012, a whole year ago, & was made in Tijuana Mexico. I can't believe it was still in the supply chain. I did a software update & the unevenness seems less worse, but that may be wishful thinking. I don't know if a software change can affect the light output of some LEDs to help even out the illumination. When I saw the TS01 on the box I thought great. But I'm disappointed in the unevenness. I'd rather have the poor vertical viewing angle. Anyway in normal viewing the picture looks OK but it's too early to tell if it's a keeper.

Grumble, grumble

C is S-MVA and T is S-PVA... the former might be more uniform but the latter is best off-axis for *VA panels... that said if uniformity is an issue you should be looking at EH/FH/F only not ES series models
post #135 of 527
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

C is S-MVA and T is S-PVA... the former might be more uniform but the latter is best off-axis for *VA panels... that said if uniformity is an issue you should be looking at EH/FH/F only not ES series models

Reading through the various threads lead me to think the TS01 was the best panel & the one I should be looking for. I did not realize there was going to be a tradeoff of features.

I did look at the EH models & they looked good in the store. However I never read a really positive review on them. Reviews usually said the EH was good, but you could get better for the same amount of money.

I don't really see the unevenness when watching a program, but sometimes notice it when there a large area with a smooth solid color. And on a black screen between programs there is quite a bit of clouding. Maybe that's the nature of current LED TVs, at least to certain degree.

That being said, I've seen photos where people have had panels replaced & this helped fully or almost fully solve a clouding problem. But I don't recall which panel types were involved so I don't know if that's worth pursuing or not.
post #136 of 527
Damn! I thought I was all done with this panel lottery thing when I bought my LG a couple of years ago. Now I'm looking for 40" Samsung for my son who's going away to grad school. I'm really not keen on taking my chances ordering online because we only until about mid-July to find him a place and get him moved in. I'm looking at the UN40EH5300 and I understand that if the complete product code ends in TS01/02 or TH01 that should be an indicator of the S-PVA panel? I don't like going into the SM because one, it's too easy to mess something up and two, you have to buy the tv before you can access the SM.
post #137 of 527
From what I've read on the various threads here I'm under the impression that the Version Number on the box indicates the panel type. On the UPC label on the box that I have it says Version: TS01. This was near the lower right corner of the label. This also matches the label on the back of the TV.

Of course this is for Samsung. The only code I'm familiar with is TS01 because everyone says that's the one to get. You'd have to read through a thread or 2 in order to see what the other codes indicate. But if your interested in a Samsung it should be easy to see this before you buy.

Costco is a store to consider because they give a free second year of warranty. And if the TV cost less than $500 an additional 3 years was $29.99. I don't usually go for extended warranties but 5 years for $29.99 seems like a good deal. The cost is $59.99 for TVs costing $500-$1,000.

Good luck in your shopping. And I'm still not sure what to do.
post #138 of 527
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

Damn! I thought I was all done with this panel lottery thing when I bought my LG a couple of years ago. Now I'm looking for 40" Samsung for my son who's going away to grad school. I'm really not keen on taking my chances ordering online because we only until about mid-July to find him a place and get him moved in. I'm looking at the UN40EH5300 and I understand that if the complete product code ends in TS01/02 or TH01 that should be an indicator of the S-PVA panel? I don't like going into the SM because one, it's too easy to mess something up and two, you have to buy the tv before you can access the SM.

Txxx is S-PVA... this applies for both 2012 and 2013 models (but they could change it in the future which is why some still rely on the SM to be sure... A in the SM has always referred to Samsung S-PVA)
post #139 of 527
^^^ thanks
post #140 of 527
Can someone summarize all this information, please?
Bottom line: which panel codes are the desirable ones?
post #141 of 527
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Originally Posted by Frank_K View Post

Can someone summarize all this information, please?
Bottom line: which panel codes are the desirable ones?

The most desirable current Samsung panel codes are:
  • TS01
  • TS02
  • TH01
  • TH02

These are all Samsung S-PVA panels.

How to check for panel code:
For newer models, you should be able to identify it by the "Version:" near the UPC.

This should be located in the same white square as the model information, S/N, and UPC.

An example would be...
Version: TH01

Just as a side note, the UN55EH6030 (2012) and the UN55FH6030 (2013) all seem to come with a TH01 panel. I picked up the FH6030 from Costco a few weeks back for $800 after a $200 instant manufacturer rebate and added the 5-year warranty for $59.99. It covers accidental damage and in-home repairs. Great deal.
Edited by zer06ame - 6/14/13 at 11:05am
post #142 of 527
Just checked our local Costco store and the UN40EH5300FXZA was listed as version HH02, so as far as the label goes, that indicates that it's not an S-PVA panel. Any ideas what kind of panel it is and how it compares to the TSxx/THxx panels?
post #143 of 527
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

Just checked our local Costco store and the UN40EH5300FXZA was listed as version HH02, so as far as the label goes, that indicates that it's not an S-PVA panel. Any ideas what kind of panel it is and how it compares to the TSxx/THxx panels?

it's a sharp panel and will have worse blacks and narrower viewing angles than S-PVA plus the potential for blue ghosting
post #144 of 527
For what it's worth, yesterday I auditioned a 65F6350 in BJ's, it had a MS01 code, and I thought the side angle viewing was pretty good. There was a Sharp 80" and a Vizio 70" next to it and they were both worse than the Samsung in terms of side angle. The picture (although in store torch mode) was superb, the Vizio was horrible, and the Sharp 80 was very good.
post #145 of 527
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

C is S-MVA and T is S-PVA... the former might be more uniform but the latter is best off-axis for *VA panels... that said if uniformity is an issue you should be looking at EH/FH/F only not ES series models

I just looked at the new UN46FH6030 at Best Buy and it also had the TS01 panel, same as the UN46ES6150.

Somewhere I read that the 2012 EH full array back lit models had fewer LEDs than the previous models. Does anyone know if this is true, and does the FH have the same number as the EH? Could Samsung possibly be using fewer LEDs because maybe the newer LEDs are brighter & therefore not as many are required? I think more would provide a more uniform illumination, but maybe they have that figured out too.
post #146 of 527
We finally found an EH5300 with the S-PVA panel last week at Costco. We've had it on fairly regularly since then to make sure it's ok before my son takes it off to graduate school. I don't know about the number of LED's it has in the back but it looks really good right out of the box on Movie mode without any tweaking. Very even with absolutely no clouding or flashing.
post #147 of 527
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Originally Posted by connmen View Post

This is an odd entry on the Sears website because the only 50" F6300s that I have seen have been CH.

Never seen any reference to NH anywhere. Possibly a typo on the Sears site?

Hi, first post here.

I picked up a UN50F6350 at Costco a few weeks ago, and the sticker on the box claims it is a NH-02 panel. I don't know how to tell if it's IPS, PVA, MVA, or whatever. I tried to look it up on the Sears part site, and found a listing for Samsung Model #UN50F6300AFXZA-NH02 which indicates a panel part # BN95-01098A. I can't seem to find a reference to this part number anywhere else online. (Too new, perhaps?)


This is my first flat-panel TV. So far I am very happy with it. To me, the off-axis viewing and blacks are quite acceptable. Haven't noticed any flashlighting or ghosting issues. I did adjust some of the color calibration settings, and I think the PQ is pretty good overall.

Disclaimer: I am not a certified videophile, so maybe I do not know everything to look for. If anyone wants to suggest specific things to watch out for, I will try to check those and report back.
Edited by threadl0ck - 7/1/13 at 10:07am
post #148 of 527
I just bought & am returning a UN46FH6030 due to significant banding. It does have a TS01 panel.
See this thread for more details if interested.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1475452/just-bought-the-2013-un55fh6030#post_23463384
post #149 of 527
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Originally Posted by threadl0ck View Post

Hi, first post here.

I picked up a UN506350 at Costco a few weeks ago, and the sticker on the box claims it is a NH-02 panel. I don't know how to tell if it's IPS, PVA, MVA, or whatever. I tried to look it up on the Sears part site, and found a listing for Samsung Model #UN50F6300AFXZA-NH02 which indicates a panel part # BN95-01098A. I can't seem to find a reference to this part number anywhere else online. (Too new, perhaps?)


This is my first flat-panel TV. So far I am very happy with it. To me, the off-axis viewing and blacks are quite acceptable. Haven't noticed any flashlighting or ghosting issues. I did adjust some of the color calibration settings, and I think the PQ is pretty good overall.

Disclaimer: I am not a certified videophile, so maybe I do not know everything to look for. If anyone wants to suggest specific things to watch out for, I will try to check those and report back.

I don't know what an NH-02 is, but its definitely not an IPS. Its either a Samsung S-PVA , or its someone else's MVA.

If you don't have flashlighting or clouding and you like the viewing angles, then just be happy with it. You got lucky. smile.gif
post #150 of 527
According to some of the posts above, Txxx is a Samsung S-PVA panel, Hxxx is a Sharp panel, and Cxxx is an S-MVA panel. Don't know what Nxxx is but it's not an S-PVA panel.
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