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post #61 of 144
Interesting read.

I imagine we will see another panel code in
the near future.

http://www.digitalversus.com/samsung...ticle-538.html
post #62 of 144
Hi there,

I have owned my Samsung 46C6300 for 4 days. I manned up and went into the service menu, and had to fight the urge to play with the menus in there. well anyhow:

Model: UN46C6300SFXZA
Version No: H306
MFD: November 2010

Type: 46A1UF0E
post #63 of 144
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_990 View Post

Hi there,

I have owned my Samsung 46C6300 for 4 days. I manned up and went into the service menu, and had to fight the urge to play with the menus in there. well anyhow:

Model: UN46C6300SFXZA
Version No: H306
MFD: November 2010

Type: 46A1UF0E

Another H version Samsung panel.
post #64 of 144
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Originally Posted by benjamin2 View Post

Interesting read.

I imagine we will see another panel code in
the near future.

http://www.digitalversus.com/samsung...ticle-538.html

Yes, I think the OP should indicate that entering the SERVICE MENU voids the warranty.
post #65 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by Do-It-Yourself View Post

Yes, I think the OP should indicate that entering the SERVICE MENU voids the warranty.

It may not hurt to do so.

There has been a lot of speculation about this but I cant
recall reading or hearing any consumer complaints about
Samsung voiding a warranty for this reason. It may not be
true, or Samsung cannot prove the menu was entered.

There are values and settings that cant be changed unless
its done in the service menu, also the panel hours are
reset to zero every time its entered. So if someone has not
made any value changes and their panel hours are
reasonable for the time they owned their set, I doubt
Samsung would know.
post #66 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin2 View Post

It may not hurt to do so.

There has been a lot of speculation about this but I cant
recall reading or hearing any consumer complaints about
Samsung voiding a warranty for this reason. It may not be
true, or Samsung cannot prove the menu was entered.

There are values and settings that cant be changed unless
its done in the service menu, also the panel hours are
reset to zero every time its entered. So if someone has not
made any value changes and their panel hours are
reasonable for the time they owned their set, I doubt
Samsung would know.

The service menu contains a hidden log. (Though still possible to reset) The log keeps track as to when and what was used in the SM.
This is "digital" proof.
post #67 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by Do-It-Yourself View Post

The service menu contains a hidden log. (Though still possible to reset) The log keeps track as to when and what was used in the SM.
This is "digital" proof.

Yes I've heard mention of that but if it exists no one has
located it.

I suspect if it did exist and service menu entry voids
a warranty, we would be seeing Samsung use it as a
means to escape warranty coverage in a large number of
repairs.

As I mentioned in my previous post I've read/heard many
consumer complaints about Samsungs warranty coverage,
but never one where Samsung voided the warranty
because the service menu was entered. If it had
been happening it would be common knowledge
here on avsforum, avforums, and the many other
forums that discuss HDTVs
post #68 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin2 View Post

Yes I've heard mention of that but if it exists no one has
located it.

I suspect if it did exist and service menu entry voids
a warranty, we would be seeing Samsung use it as a
means to escape warranty coverage in a large number of
repairs.

As I mentioned in my previous post I've read/heard many
consumer complaints about Samsungs warranty coverage,
but never one where Samsung voided the warranty
because the service menu was entered. If it had
been happening it would be common knowledge
here on avsforum, avforums and the many other
forums that discuss HDTVs

not hidden, it's under control, sub option, view log (type is defect log, not NVRAM or diagnostic)
post #69 of 144
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

not hidden, it's under control, sub option, view log (type is defect log, not NVRAM or diagnostic)

What does it actually log?
How many voided warranties have you noticed
for service menu entry?
post #70 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin2 View Post

What does it actually log?
How many voided warranties have you noticed
for service menu entry?

looks like some hexadecimal/programming/memory (RAM) code to me, not regular text

I'm not sure about the warranty question, but I would assume your warranty would get voided if you told Samsung you accessed the service menu or if you messed up something in there and weren't able to put it back to what it originally was.

If you accessed the service menu but didn't screw anything up (and cleared the log), they shouldn't be able to tell.
post #71 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

looks like some hexadecimal/programming/memory (RAM) code to me, not regular text

I believe a defect log just lists errors, and has nothing to
do with service menu entry. I suspect its something
similar to a "Windows event service" log.

Heres something from someone who eyeballed the
entries and noted 13 entries each dealing with FRCM 120hwrite errors.
The Samsung tech who responded had no idea what
the defect log was used for.
post #72 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin2 View Post

I believe a defect log just lists errors, and has nothing to
do with service menu entry. I suspect its something
similar to a "Windows event service" log.

Heres something from someone who eyeballed the
entries and noted 13 entries each dealing with FRCM 120hwrite errors.
The Samsung tech who responded had no idea what
the defect log was used for.

changing values in the service menu adds new entries to the log... I don't believe there is any other log in the service menu (aside from NVRAM and diagnostic found in the same area).
post #73 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin2 View Post

Yes I've heard mention of that but if it exists no one has
located it.

I suspect if it did exist and service menu entry voids
a warranty, we would be seeing Samsung use it as a
means to escape warranty coverage in a large number of
repairs.

As I mentioned in my previous post I've read/heard many
consumer complaints about Samsungs warranty coverage,
but never one where Samsung voided the warranty
because the service menu was entered. If it had
been happening it would be common knowledge
here on avsforum, avforums, and the many other
forums that discuss HDTVs

I see, thank you.
post #74 of 144
and of course you have the FB01 panel, made by sharp, exclusive to the 60 inch models.
post #75 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

changing values in the service menu adds new entries to the log... I don't believe there is any other log in the service menu (aside from NVRAM and diagnostic found in the same area).

The response below is from the Samsung tech I mentioned earlier.
His comments about a tech seeing when the menu
was last accessed is questionable as he is the fellow
who didnt know what the "detect log" was.
If as you suggest, it logs value and setting changes, then
someone who entered and just looked around wouldnt be
detected.


"Any technician worth his salt would be able to see when the menu was accessed last if he wanted to. Usually damage that occurs from an unauthorized user in the service menu is not covered under warranty, which is why I'm such an open stickler about it. I would not suggest trying to 'reset' anything, as I know one instance where such a reset turned all the picture values to zero, and pretty much scrap-heaped the unit. I'm not trying to scare people, but that's the reality."
post #76 of 144
The box my LN55630C came in says SQ03
post #77 of 144
Finally worked up the nerve to pull the back panel off of my UN40C6400 in hopes to determine once and for all the panel type was. I was surprised how easy the back is removed. About a dozen or so long screws, and a half-dozen short screws and the stamped metal back just lifts off. There was only one sticker on the rear of the panel in the lower right hand corner. It shows:
LTJ400HJ05-F
MX09BN9106232AA001ZAC0371

From looking at some other posts it looks like the BN91 06232A part of that would be some type of Samsung part number but I can't find it. Any ideas how to decode this?

Something else I found interesting...when I removed the swivel base, stamped in the metal below it on the panel is:
BN61-06165A #1
UC6500-40"DH06
post #78 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by toman2 View Post

It shows:
LTJ400HJ05-F

LTJ400HJ05 is a T-Con board for UN40C6300, UN40C6400,
and UN40C6500 models.
It would be paired with a Samsung panel such as the LTF400HJ05,SSDZJU,8bit,40inch, LCD-PANEL
post #79 of 144
I was able to glean some additional info about my 6400 from the samsungparts.com website. My main board is a samsung part (BN94-03404U) and my panel looks to be a samsung as well. There's not an exact match part and i'm guessing that there's a typo on their parts list. It shows some different part descriptions and what i'm guessing is my panel shows BN07-00913A LTF400HJ05,SSDZJU,8bit,40inch. There's one other samsung panel listed and three Txxxx panels which i'm assuming are CMO since they also list CMO main boards. Gotta love this panel lottery.
post #80 of 144
Benjamin2,

Thank you for the info. I did some more searching about the samsungparts.com website and found the part LTJ400HJ05 is the tcon board you were referring to. Wonder why that would be placed on the sticker and not the panel type. Any way, i'm convinced that I have a samsung panel. Wonder if there's any where else in the service menu that actually tells the true panel type without having to pull off the back cover to look at the main board part number? I'm also surprised how inexpensive the parts seem. My friend at work just had the tcon board go out on his 1 year old 50" Sanyo plasma and they wanted nearly $300 for the board and $75 to swap it out. He only paid $499 for it and will probably scrap it.
post #81 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by toman2 View Post

Benjamin2,
LTJ400HJ05 is the tcon board you were referring to. Wonder why that would be placed on the sticker and not the panel type. Any way, i'm convinced that I have a samsung panel. Wonder if there's any where else in the service menu that actually tells the true panel type without having to pull off the back cover to look at the main board part number?.

I've read posts saying the label could be seen through the back vents however that may not always be the case but Im not aware that there is another way to identify the panel.
Although the panel label wasnt there the T-Con sticker confirms the panel you have is a Samsung, as that T-Con board is only compatible with a Samsung 400HJ05 panel and no others.

The LTF400HJ03 A/S-T CON LTF400HJ03 is for the other Samsung panel
LTF400HJ03,SSDZJT,8bit,40,1.07 LCD-PANEL
post #82 of 144
For what its worth

Costco unit Canada

Box sticker says (same on back of TV)
UN55C6400RF
CN01

SM says
2010-08-04
55D1UF0E

Unit has flashlighting and motherboard clouding.
post #83 of 144
Got a UN55C6300 in Canada 2 days ago.
H308 on the sticker. 55A1UF0 in Service Menu. Manufacture date on the back of the TV says December 2010. Manufacture date in Service Menu shows ----
post #84 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by Do-It-Yourself View Post

Yes, I think the OP should indicate that entering the SERVICE MENU voids the warranty.

Does it really void the warranty just by ENTERING the Service Menu? Or actually by CHANGING anything there?

BTW, I found that after entering the service menu, all settings are reset. Is that normal?
post #85 of 144
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Originally Posted by jnpr View Post

46A1UF0E

A = Samsung

As suspected, congrats, you have a Samsung panel. More data to back up the "H" panel versions people are posting lately.

What are your concerns about the set you have? I only ask because if you exchange it, you may not be getting something better.

my replacement has the same model number...i dont have the clouding problems now just the flashlighting...
post #86 of 144
yep, so i exchanged my 6300 as well....this one has 0 clouding ...but the lower left corner has some flashlighting....not too annoying so i will be keeping it when i get home ill see if i can get in the menu and check if this panel is diff.
post #87 of 144
We went to BB armed with the info from this forum. The local store only had AA02 panels in stock. After some sweet talking, I convinced them to call around to look for a SQ panel for me.

They turned up SQ05 panel for me, which should be in mid-week.
post #88 of 144
Has anyone had or know what NZ02 panels are like?

From reading the forums I gather that you can tell the panel type on the bottom left corner of the sticker on the box.
post #89 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirkulon View Post
Has anyone had or know what NZ02 panels are like?

From reading the forums I gather that you can tell the panel type on the bottom left corner of the sticker on the box.
I only recall seeing something like that on a plasma.
Is that panel on a plasma or is it on a LED/LCD model?
post #90 of 144
Just returned my CN03 panel for an H306, there is a substantial difference between the two panels. The H has minimal clouding issues and the off center viewing angle is far superior.
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