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post #271 of 552
Will the colossus record 5.1 ac3 from hdmi??

I see in the newest driver it accepts ac3 but doesnt say if it 5.1 or not.
post #272 of 552
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Originally Posted by wildchild22 View Post
Will the colossus record 5.1 ac3 from hdmi??

I see in the newest driver it accepts ac3 but doesnt say if it 5.1 or not.
Yes, it does
post #273 of 552
Can anyone give me step by step directions to set up the MCE ir reciever/ir blaster to control a satellite box?

I have everything working good through HDMI, but I'm not able to change channels/ control my dish satellite box.

Thanks in advance for everyone's assistance

cheers manutdsoc20
post #274 of 552
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Originally Posted by manutdsoc20 View Post

Can anyone give me step by step directions to set up the MCE ir reciever/ir blaster to control a satellite box?

I have everything working good through HDMI, but I'm not able to change channels/ control my dish satellite box.

Thanks in advance for everyone's assistance

cheers manutdsoc20

http://www.hauppauge.com/PDFs/hdpvr_col_for_mce.pdf

Have you looked at that doc? I use firewire for my channel changing, not the blasters, but that doc seems pretty step-by-step... The most common mistake I've heard about is people not selecting the Use Internal Blaster checkbox.
post #275 of 552
One thing of which I have become acutely aware since starting to use a Colossus is just how many movies and other shows come through DirecTV as DD 2.0 rather than 5.1 even though the movie is in HD and the intro says "Dolby Digital 5.1 where available".

Considering the amount of bandwidth used for the HD video, it can't be that much worse to transmit a 5.1 soundtrack, can it?

It's pretty annoying.
post #276 of 552
Don't know how DirecTV does it, but AC3 on the HD channels here is 384kbps regardless of 2.0/5.1 switches.
post #277 of 552
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

Don't know how DirecTV does it, but AC3 on the HD channels here is 384kbps regardless of 2.0/5.1 switches.

Directv is as well. It's not the quality that's the problem, it's the failure to broadcast the 5.1 soundtrack. There's really no excuse for that.
post #278 of 552
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Originally Posted by ghostlobster View Post


Have you looked at that doc? I use firewire for my channel changing, not the blasters, but that doc seems pretty step-by-step... The most common mistake I've heard about is people not selecting the Use Internal Blaster checkbox.

Maybe you explained it but how are you using Firewire to change your channels? I would love to be able to control my HR23 from my Windos 7 Media Center so I could just use my tablet to run everything.
post #279 of 552
Im using 32 bit windows and firestb with DVBLink. My cable boxes have firewire ports on them. If you want firewire ports on a cable stb, you just have to ask your cable company. Their FCC license mandates that they provide them...at least for now.
post #280 of 552
Thinking of getting one of these for now. Quick question though, how many of these can WM7 use. Also is this better then the external hdpvr from them. Also is there a way around the HDCP issue with this. I know its not talked about on here, you can pm me if you have a solution.

Thanks

Thanks
post #281 of 552
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Originally Posted by space2001 View Post

Also is there a way around the HDCP issue with this. I know its not talked about on here, you can pm me if you have a solution.

Thanks

Thanks

To what HDCP issue are you referring? That's why it uses component video and optical audio. There is no HDCP on those. The Collosus can use HDMI in but only from unencrypted sources.
post #282 of 552
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post

To what HDCP issue are you referring? That's why it uses component video and optical audio. There is no HDCP on those. The Collosus can use HDMI in but only from unencrypted sources.

Sorry that is what I meant. My Cable Co uses hdcp on there HDMI, was wondering if there was a way to strip it through software.
post #283 of 552
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Originally Posted by space2001 View Post

Sorry that is what I meant. My Cable Co uses hdcp on there HDMI, was wondering if there was a way to strip it through software.

Does your cable box have component video outputs and an optical audio audio output? You can get perfect 1080i HD and Dolby Digital 5.1 from those, which is as good as you're getting from your cable box anyhow. It will look and sound as good as your original cable signal.

Why mess around with HDCP if you don't have to?
post #284 of 552
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post

Does your cable box have component video outputs and an optical audio audio output? You can get perfect 1080i HD and Dolby Digital 5.1 from those, which is as good as you're getting from your cable box anyhow. It will look and sound as good as your original cable signal.

Why mess around with HDCP if you don't have to?

The Main reason was to split the HDMI one to AVR and other to Colossus,

Just may do the Component.
post #285 of 552
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Originally Posted by space2001 View Post

The Main reason was to split the HDMI one to AVR and other to Colossus,

Just may do the Component.

I have the HDMI from my satellite box go to my AVR, and have the component/optical go to my HTPC which in turn is connected to my AVR by HDMI.
post #286 of 552
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Originally Posted by purple_duckk View Post
Maybe you explained it but how are you using Firewire to change your channels? I would love to be able to control my HR23 from my Windos 7 Media Center so I could just use my tablet to run everything.
If you can use HTTP channel changing that is the best. I use it with my HR24 and my H25. Works perfectly. I use SageTV though. I think DVblink has HTTP tuning. Google search and you should be able to find a walk through.
post #287 of 552
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post

One thing of which I have become acutely aware since starting to use a Colossus is just how many movies and other shows come through DirecTV as DD 2.0 rather than 5.1 even though the movie is in HD and the intro says "Dolby Digital 5.1 where available".

Considering the amount of bandwidth used for the HD video, it can't be that much worse to transmit a 5.1 soundtrack, can it?

It's pretty annoying.

I haven't had much time with the Colossal but did notice when using the HD PVR that DirecTV uses stereo for all its introduction screens and only switches to 5.1 when the show credits start. The HD PVR recorded over optical based on the first audio track it saw and so if you started recording on the DirecTV screens the entire program was recorded in 2.0. I had to wait for the show to start and then start recording to get 5.1.

I haven't noticed programming advertised as 5.1 not being such when sent to my receiver.
post #288 of 552
Cutting the video after capturing should also show that the "2.0" audio is actually 5.1, since the card doesn't re-encode the audio. People doing DVB captures have had to deal with channel-count switching for many years.

Example discussing the exact same issue: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148310
post #289 of 552
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Originally Posted by Mike_G View Post

I haven't had much time with the Colossal but did notice when using the HD PVR that DirecTV uses stereo for all its introduction screens and only switches to 5.1 when the show credits start. The HD PVR recorded over optical based on the first audio track it saw and so if you started recording on the DirecTV screens the entire program was recorded in 2.0. I had to wait for the show to start and then start recording to get 5.1.

I haven't noticed programming advertised as 5.1 not being such when sent to my receiver.

I have not had that happen using a Colossus with Directv. It switches fine and records the program in 5.1 if available even if the intro was in 2.0. I only use Showbiz. If you're using WinTV, maybe that's the difference.

However I have noticed, contrary to your last sentence, that MANY movies which show the "Dolby Digital 5.1 Where Available" line on the intro are NOT available in 5.1 on Directv and are only transmitted with the 2.0 soundtrack. I often go and check and see what the Directv feed is to confirm this. It seems to be a shortcut by some stations often including the secondary HBO channels, for example, and the Sony movies channel. HDNET Movies, on the other hand, always transmits the 5.1 channel.

I've become acutely aware of this since getting my Colossus. It's really annoying that they would transmit an HD movie and NOT send the 5.1 soundtrack along with it.
post #290 of 552
Continued from my last question, how many Colossus can I use with WMC. Just incase I want to be able to add more.
post #291 of 552
Does the Collossus work well with the Xbox 360 as a extender?

Just trying to think of a cheap solution for the time being.

My main computer is powerful enough but to far from my home theater.

Thanks
post #292 of 552
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Originally Posted by space2001 View Post

Does the Collossus work well with the Xbox 360 as a extender?

I think you may misunderstand what a Colossus is. It's just an HD video/audio capture card. You connect a source, be it a cable or satellite box, a BD player, whatever, and the Colossus digitizes the signal it and stores it on your PC as a video file.

How you later choose to playback and distribute that file is entirely up to other hardware and software, so whether you can playback that video file on an extender depends on whether you have the software and hardware to distribute any video to an extender. It's not done by the Colossus.
post #293 of 552
Sorry that is what meant my main windows 7 machine will have this and for right now I was hoping to use the xbox360 as a extender to watch tv and flip through the guide

Can I do this with this configuration
post #294 of 552
yes.
and you can use more than one colossus to tune more than 1 STB and build a media center "media server"...
See here... I'm in the process of doing this myself...

http://dvblogic.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=53
post #295 of 552
Are the m2ts files from the Colossus Blu-ray compatible? I've yet to succeed in burning a Blu-ray disc that will play on my Panasonic DMP-BD605. About half of my attempts will play on my HTPC using TMT5.

I do the capture to m2ts at 13 mbps using Showbiz that came with the Colossus.

I use VideoReDo to edit and output to m2ts.

I have tried both tsmuxergui and multiavchd to create the Blu-ray folder.

I have used both Imgburn and Nero to burn the UDF 2.5 discs using an LG BH12LS35 burner.

When I have created the Blu-ray folder using tsmuxergui the the Panasonic recognizes the disc as a BD but then just sits there forever trying to read the disk. When I have created the Blu-ray folder using multiavchd the Panasonic recognizes the disk as a BD, but then immediately goes to Stop.

I'd like suggestions on things to try and on friendlier programs for authoring Blu-ray discs that won't re-encode the video (or that have smart-encoding that actually works).

Along those lines, has anyone tried the new version of Showbiz for doing this sort of thing?
post #296 of 552
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Originally Posted by JTAnderson View Post

Are the m2ts files from the Colossus Blu-ray compatible? I've yet to succeed in burning a Blu-ray disc that will play on my Panasonic DMP-BD605. About half of my attempts will play on my HTPC using TMT5.

I do the capture to m2ts at 13 mbps using Showbiz that came with the Colossus.

I use VideoReDo to edit and output to m2ts.

I have tried both tsmuxergui and multiavchd to create the Blu-ray folder.

I have used both Imgburn and Nero to burn the UDF 2.5 discs using an LG BH12LS35 burner.

When I have created the Blu-ray folder using tsmuxergui the the Panasonic recognizes the disc as a BD but then just sits there forever trying to read the disk. When I have created the Blu-ray folder using multiavchd the Panasonic recognizes the disk as a BD, but then immediately goes to Stop.

I'd like suggestions on things to try and on friendlier programs for authoring Blu-ray discs that won't re-encode the video (or that have smart-encoding that actually works).

Along those lines, has anyone tried the new version of Showbiz for doing this sort of thing?

I used the HD-PVR and TME2 to successfully author author blu-ray discs from football game captures last year. Have not yet tried with colossus and Showbiz.
post #297 of 552
I was thinking of getting this...

Is it possible to capture 2.0 PCM audio from a laserdisc with it? Or will it re-encode to ac-3 no matter what?
post #298 of 552
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Like the original HD PVR, the Colossus preserves the native format of encoded audio (i.e. Dolby Digital is stored as Dolby Digital), but currently encodes uncompressed audio (PCM) as AAC with video content encoded to AVC (H.264) in the native resolution and frame rate.
There are some HDMI/component/optical PCIe cards in Asia and Russia that support stereo PCM.
post #299 of 552
I think a Blackmagic should do it, but you'll need to compress them manually after the fact.
post #300 of 552
Blackmagic's Intensity products don't have SPDIF inputs.
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